Luke Johnson | Jameis Winston tore his ACL and is out for the year

AsylumGuido · 11-01-2021, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

That's my question. How is Trevor able to find the WRs and Winston couldn't? What? They tried harder to get open with Trevor? Makes the whole "WRs aren't getting open" argument with Winston seem a little less on the WRs and more on Winston.

But who knows? Guess we'll have to see what happens this week.

Siemian found receivers at a lower rate than did Winston in the game 55.17% to 60%. Siemian also had a horrible interception called back and fumbled the ball once. Were you watching the game?

SaintGnome · 11-01-2021, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Siemian found receivers at a lower rate than did Winston in the game 55.17% to 60%. Siemian also had a horrible interception called back and fumbled the ball once. Were you watching the game?

I think the point was (at least my point was) it has been taking Jamius forever to pick his target giving us the impression that our receivers weren't getting open but when Trevor went in he was a lot more quickly able to get the ball out hence my statement that he needs to go through his progressions faster I'm not sure what the fumble or INT that wasn't have to do with anything.

To the other people saying our WR's have dropped balls, I don't deny that, again it's not the question.

vpheughan · 11-02-2021, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Siemian found receivers at a lower rate than did Winston in the game 55.17% to 60%. Siemian also had a horrible interception called back and fumbled the ball once. Were you watching the game?

ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT LOUD OBNOXIOUS WHITE NOISE IS BACK!!! I SERIOUSLY WONDER IF A SATELLITE RADIO TECH COULD FIX IT?

Rugby Saint II · 11-01-2021, 04:57 PM

Poor fella'. I was enjoying watching his progress through each game. He was a better decision player. Hopefully he will be back stronger and better at reading defenses. He took it in stride well. He has my respect.

OldMaid · 11-01-2021, 05:05 PM

I just saw the report on ESPN, pregame MNF reports.
ACL, danmn. Of all things.

So Hill, with more experience, and Sieman , not so much experience, but a big confidence booster eating Brady n TB yesterday, will have to carry on.
Both need to be played in every game.
Keep the other teams guessing.

AsylumGuido · 11-01-2021, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by OldMaid

I just saw the report on ESPN, pregame MNF reports.
ACL, danmn. Of all things.

So Hill, with more experience, and Sieman , not so much experience, but a big confidence booster eating Brady n TB yesterday, will have to carry on.
Both need to be played in every game.
Keep the other teams guessing.

Siemian has more experience Hill. He started 24 games for Denver in 2016-17. He couldn't cut it as a starter and hasn't been a factor in the league since.

darksoul35 · 11-01-2021, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Siemian has more experience Hill. He started 24 games for Denver in 2016-17. He couldn't cut it as a starter and hasn't been a factor in the league since.

He looked way better than I expected but they need to get that snap count right. He stopped a fumble but pure reflex .

AsylumGuido · 11-01-2021, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by darksoul35

He looked way better than I expected but they need to get that snap count right. He stopped a fumble but pure reflex .

The snap count won't matter unless Hill gets injured. Payton has already said that Taysom is the starter moving forward.

K Major · 11-01-2021, 05:09 PM

Tampa's game plan was on Winston, not a 3rd string QB. I counted 4 (Saints/Jets/Seattle/Cowboys) backups around the league who had success with their WR's "getting open" yesterday.

It's an entirely different ball game when coaches have tape.

SmashMouth · 11-01-2021, 07:54 PM

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11-01-2021, 04:45 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,768	Re: Luke Johnson \| Jameis Winston tore his ACL and is out for the year Originally Posted by jnormand That's my question. How is Trevor able to find the WRs and Winston couldn't? What? They tried harder to get open with Trevor? Makes the whole "WRs aren't getting open" argument with Winston seem a little less on the WRs and more on Winston. But who knows? Guess we'll have to see what happens this week. Siemian found receivers at a lower rate than did Winston in the game 55.17% to 60%. Siemian also had a horrible interception called back and fumbled the ball once. Were you watching the game? OldMaid, K Major, rezburna and 1 others like this.

11-01-2021, 05:22 PM	#2
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Luke Johnson \| Jameis Winston tore his ACL and is out for the year Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Siemian found receivers at a lower rate than did Winston in the game 55.17% to 60%. Siemian also had a horrible interception called back and fumbled the ball once. Were you watching the game? I think the point was (at least my point was) it has been taking Jamius forever to pick his target giving us the impression that our receivers weren't getting open but when Trevor went in he was a lot more quickly able to get the ball out hence my statement that he needs to go through his progressions faster I'm not sure what the fumble or INT that wasn't have to do with anything. To the other people saying our WR's have dropped balls, I don't deny that, again it's not the question. jeanpierre likes this.

11-02-2021, 07:27 AM	#3
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,562	Re: Luke Johnson \| Jameis Winston tore his ACL and is out for the year Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Siemian found receivers at a lower rate than did Winston in the game 55.17% to 60%. Siemian also had a horrible interception called back and fumbled the ball once. Were you watching the game? ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT LOUD OBNOXIOUS WHITE NOISE IS BACK!!! I SERIOUSLY WONDER IF A SATELLITE RADIO TECH COULD FIX IT? iceshack149 likes this.
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11-01-2021, 04:57 PM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: Luke Johnson \| Jameis Winston tore his ACL and is out for the year Poor fella'. I was enjoying watching his progress through each game. He was a better decision player. Hopefully he will be back stronger and better at reading defenses. He took it in stride well. He has my respect. OldMaid and darksoul35 like this.

11-01-2021, 05:05 PM	#5
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,919 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Luke Johnson \| Jameis Winston tore his ACL and is out for the year I just saw the report on ESPN, pregame MNF reports. ACL, danmn. Of all things. So Hill, with more experience, and Sieman , not so much experience, but a big confidence booster eating Brady n TB yesterday, will have to carry on. Both need to be played in every game. Keep the other teams guessing.

11-01-2021, 05:12 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,768	Re: Luke Johnson \| Jameis Winston tore his ACL and is out for the year Originally Posted by OldMaid I just saw the report on ESPN, pregame MNF reports. ACL, danmn. Of all things. So Hill, with more experience, and Sieman , not so much experience, but a big confidence booster eating Brady n TB yesterday, will have to carry on. Both need to be played in every game. Keep the other teams guessing. Siemian has more experience Hill. He started 24 games for Denver in 2016-17. He couldn't cut it as a starter and hasn't been a factor in the league since.

11-01-2021, 05:18 PM	#7
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,045	Re: Luke Johnson \| Jameis Winston tore his ACL and is out for the year Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Siemian has more experience Hill. He started 24 games for Denver in 2016-17. He couldn't cut it as a starter and hasn't been a factor in the league since. He looked way better than I expected but they need to get that snap count right. He stopped a fumble but pure reflex .
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11-01-2021, 05:24 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,768	Re: Luke Johnson \| Jameis Winston tore his ACL and is out for the year Originally Posted by darksoul35 He looked way better than I expected but they need to get that snap count right. He stopped a fumble but pure reflex . The snap count won't matter unless Hill gets injured. Payton has already said that Taysom is the starter moving forward.

11-01-2021, 05:09 PM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Luke Johnson \| Jameis Winston tore his ACL and is out for the year Tampa's game plan was on Winston, not a 3rd string QB. I counted 4 (Saints/Jets/Seattle/Cowboys) backups around the league who had success with their WR's "getting open" yesterday. It's an entirely different ball game when coaches have tape. leilung, AsylumGuido, jeanpierre and 1 others like this.