Observations from Saints Loss to the FailClowns

K Major · 11-08-2021, 03:58 PM

Alvin calmly waves @ Trevor to throw him the ball ...

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dizzle88 · 11-08-2021, 04:43 PM

Maybe Brees knew how bad the receiving Corp was and thats why he just checked down to Kamara every play.

SmashMouth · 11-08-2021, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Maybe Brees knew how bad the receiving Corp was and thats why he just checked down to Kamara every play.

Nawh... He made average WRs into above average with his decisions and quick release and catchable ball, even if he had a noodle arm at the end of his career.

K Major · 11-08-2021, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Nawh... He made average WRs into above average with his decisions and quick release and catchable ball, even if he had a noodle arm at the end of his career.

Right. Brees spoiled us. Made it look easier than it actually was.

Rare breed. Canton awaits.

jeanpierre · 11-08-2021, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Right. Brees spoiled us. Made it look easier than it actually was.

Rare breed. Canton awaits.

There. it. is.

rezburna · 11-08-2021, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Nawh... He made average WRs into above average with his decisions and quick release and catchable ball, even if he had a noodle arm at the end of his career.

Originally Posted by K Major

Right. Brees spoiled us. Made it look easier than it actually was.

Rare breed. Canton awaits.

All true.

The Dude · 11-08-2021, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Right. Brees spoiled us. Made it look easier than it actually was.

Rare breed. Canton awaits.

I don’t understand why some people seem so surprised that our offense is struggling. Did anyone honestly think we could lose a HOF QB and still keep consistently winning without missing a beat? Nobody seemed to think the players we lost due to the salary cap issues would make a difference either. I’m not really talking about members here but it seems like most people are shocked by where we are right now. It’s the price you pay for having 16 years of success.
It’s obvious Payton has been slowly making a transition to a team with a run first offense and stout defense. His mistake was putting all his eggs in the Michael Thomas basket when it comes to the passing game.

SaintGnome · 11-09-2021, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

His mistake was putting all his eggs in the Michael Thomas basket when it comes to the passing game.

Which after the historic season he had, and his earlier success he really HAD to

saintsfan1976 · 11-09-2021, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I don’t understand why some people seem so surprised that our offense is struggling. Did anyone honestly think we could lose a HOF QB and still keep consistently winning without missing a beat? Nobody seemed to think the players we lost due to the salary cap issues would make a difference either. I’m not really talking about members here but it seems like most people are shocked by where we are right now. It’s the price you pay for having 16 years of success.
It’s obvious Payton has been slowly making a transition to a team with a run first offense and stout defense. His mistake was putting all his eggs in the Michael Thomas basket when it comes to the passing game.

Yes it is reasonable to think we would consistently win in a post Brees era.

Look at the record when Brees went down.
Look at the roster in every other "salary cap issue" year.
Look at past Superbowl teams with stout defenses and "game manager" QBs

It's easy to second guess a decision to pay MT with the benefit of hindsight but at the time, no one here thought it was irresponsible to pay him for even a portion of the production he already displayed.

vpheughan · 11-09-2021, 05:35 AM

Trevor Siemian VS Falcons stats:

CMP% 61
YDS 249
TD 2
INT 0
Rating 94.5
Winning numbers if the D does it's job and receivers don't drop 8 passes

11-08-2021, 03:58 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,828 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from Saints Loss to the FailClowns Alvin calmly waves @ Trevor to throw him the ball ... https://twitter.com/i/status/1457829065256210436 jeanpierre likes this.

11-08-2021, 04:43 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Observations from Saints Loss to the FailClowns Maybe Brees knew how bad the receiving Corp was and thats why he just checked down to Kamara every play. Boston Saint likes this.

11-08-2021, 06:23 PM	#3
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,782 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from Saints Loss to the FailClowns Originally Posted by dizzle88 Maybe Brees knew how bad the receiving Corp was and thats why he just checked down to Kamara every play. Nawh... He made average WRs into above average with his decisions and quick release and catchable ball, even if he had a noodle arm at the end of his career. jnormand, jeanpierre, K Major and 1 others like this.

11-08-2021, 07:11 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,828 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from Saints Loss to the FailClowns Originally Posted by SmashMouth Nawh... He made average WRs into above average with his decisions and quick release and catchable ball, even if he had a noodle arm at the end of his career. Right. Brees spoiled us. Made it look easier than it actually was. Rare breed. Canton awaits. jnormand, SmashMouth, jeanpierre and 1 others like this.

11-08-2021, 09:13 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from Saints Loss to the FailClowns Originally Posted by K Major Right. Brees spoiled us. Made it look easier than it actually was. Rare breed. Canton awaits. There. it. is. jnormand and SmashMouth like this.

11-08-2021, 09:19 PM	#6
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,094	Re: Observations from Saints Loss to the FailClowns Originally Posted by SmashMouth Nawh... He made average WRs into above average with his decisions and quick release and catchable ball, even if he had a noodle arm at the end of his career. Originally Posted by K Major Right. Brees spoiled us. Made it look easier than it actually was. Rare breed. Canton awaits. All true. SmashMouth likes this.

11-08-2021, 11:36 PM	#7
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Observations from Saints Loss to the FailClowns Originally Posted by K Major Right. Brees spoiled us. Made it look easier than it actually was. Rare breed. Canton awaits. I don’t understand why some people seem so surprised that our offense is struggling. Did anyone honestly think we could lose a HOF QB and still keep consistently winning without missing a beat? Nobody seemed to think the players we lost due to the salary cap issues would make a difference either. I’m not really talking about members here but it seems like most people are shocked by where we are right now. It’s the price you pay for having 16 years of success. It’s obvious Payton has been slowly making a transition to a team with a run first offense and stout defense. His mistake was putting all his eggs in the Michael Thomas basket when it comes to the passing game.
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11-09-2021, 11:45 AM	#8
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Observations from Saints Loss to the FailClowns Originally Posted by The Dude His mistake was putting all his eggs in the Michael Thomas basket when it comes to the passing game. Which after the historic season he had, and his earlier success he really HAD to leilung likes this.

11-09-2021, 01:25 PM	#9
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,020 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from Saints Loss to the FailClowns Originally Posted by The Dude I don’t understand why some people seem so surprised that our offense is struggling. Did anyone honestly think we could lose a HOF QB and still keep consistently winning without missing a beat? Nobody seemed to think the players we lost due to the salary cap issues would make a difference either. I’m not really talking about members here but it seems like most people are shocked by where we are right now. It’s the price you pay for having 16 years of success. It’s obvious Payton has been slowly making a transition to a team with a run first offense and stout defense. His mistake was putting all his eggs in the Michael Thomas basket when it comes to the passing game. Yes it is reasonable to think we would consistently win in a post Brees era. Look at the record when Brees went down. Look at the roster in every other "salary cap issue" year. Look at past Superbowl teams with stout defenses and "game manager" QBs It's easy to second guess a decision to pay MT with the benefit of hindsight but at the time, no one here thought it was irresponsible to pay him for even a portion of the production he already displayed. jnormand, jeanpierre and K Major like this.

11-09-2021, 05:35 AM	#10
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,546	Re: Observations from Saints Loss to the FailClowns Trevor Siemian VS Falcons stats: CMP% 61 YDS 249 TD 2 INT 0 Rating 94.5 Winning numbers if the D does it's job and receivers don't drop 8 passes jnormand, dizzle88 and Boston Saint like this.
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