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I never really analyzed the play like this person did. But after looking at this analysis, it sure looks awfully suspicious. What say you?

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Rigged also here?

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Nope. Thinking things are rigged is an excuse. A poor one at that. Things happen in the NFL. They always have. It takes a lot of luck to win it all in the NFL. Hell, the best teams can lose on any given week with a bad break here or there. It's the nature of the beast.

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absolutely. It’s right there in front of everyone’s face. Some just refuse to see.

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I'm with you on this Guido. It sucks, but a rookie made a bad play, it happens. We lost. Time to move on.

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First play was not PI as we know. What was it? Masterful by the Minny player, who clearly grabbed the defender's wrist to "hold him there"...and then fell. Dude never made an attempt to catch it. Its like playing in the paint. We didn't get the call. This is why I loathed Tony Gonzales. He was the master, and boy could he whine and tantrum to carry the ruse...

And yes, PI should be reviewable. Spot fouls are BS.

I think Williams just made a mistake. I think he was afraid of a PI call. He was clearly trying to get out of the way, not to make a play on the WR. Maybe his brain froze. It's unfortunate, but I don't see it as a conspiracy.

The Rams game? That call? Nobody will ever convince me the fix wasn't in there. It could be that the defender was taught hey, when you're busted, you might as well carry on with it. That's what the defender would have us believe with his interpretation as I remember it. Could be true. Remember that was a no call right in front of the ref who clearly saw it. Oh yes the fix was in.

Looking right at it...

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019...superJumbo.jpg

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The psychological term is paranoia. The world, or in this case the league, is out to get you. Sorry. I don't buy into that crap.

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The word is denial. Not just a river in Egypt.

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Not a fix. Horrible no call for sure. The guy just totally ****ed it up. A fix is premeditated. That was not premeditated.

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The word is logical. I know you are all into conspiracies and such. Sorry, but I'm not. I live in the real world. The one that isn't always out to get me.

:D

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And narcissism. That's a word. Myopic is a personal favorite, because it's less...personal. Is that ironic?

Professional sports could NEVER be rigged, eh?

Here, a PROFESSIONAL makes a strong...suggestion? :banana:

https://heavy.com/sports/chicago-bea...xing-mnf-game/

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Professional sports can absolutely be rigged. It has happened before and has been easily discovered and proved. You cannot hide fixing games in todays world. What you have just posted simply shows the sad state of affairs in the NFL when it comes to officiating. There is nothing orchestrated. It is pure and simple incompetence. And it's going to continue to occur until the NFL goes to fulltime officials.

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Believe as you wish. Stop telling other people they're wrong.

You think the NFL wants one of it's most popular minority coaches to lose in Prime Time on the heels of said coach fending off rumors that he's being considered for a prominent college coaching gig?

Maybe you can explain how a player gets called for a block below the waist when he (a) never touched the player in question and (b) never touched that player inside the box making any such play legal. And that taunting penalty? They don't even call that in college.

Those are just missed 'real time' calls huh... They are interpretations made at key times inexplicably. By professionals who aren't stupid and rarely make those "mistakes".

Any real challenge to it's officiating post game gets a nice fat fine in your inbox. That's horse****. PLENTY of players and coaches have and continue to state the officiating is bad. Maybe it's "bad" by design. You sure as hell can't prove that it isn't, and I don't care how you feel personally. I don't think anyone else here cares much either.

You fail to consider all options. That, sir, is your prerogative, stupid as it may be.

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What you “know” and 5 dollars will buy you a latte at Starbucks.

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As I stated, officiating is horrible and will remain so until fulltime refs are instated and there is an official "eye in the sky". Until that date paranoid fans are going to continue to believe in the fallacy that the game is fixed and the league is out to get them.

I'm moving on. Y'all corner the market on tinfoil.

:D

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They are not paranoid and it is not a fallacy, and players and coaches (including Tomlin recently) have and keep saying the same things over the years. And yet you're right and everyone else is "paranoid"? You're an arrogant little man aren't you? That's the part about being a grown up you can't grasp. I truly hope you move on. Since you think everyone else is paranoid, and now that you've said as much, please DO NOT come back to this thread and start :censored: with people. How 'bout that? That way others can discuss without fighting.

Thanks!

:bng:

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Best news I’ve heard in a while.

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Yeah he doesn't buy all that. But he believes that anyone not vaxxed or wearing a mask is killing everyone else that is. Lmao!

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Respectfully disagree with those that state that it was a rookie mistake. The video linked clearly shows something to ponder if not revolting as a fan. It's really sad to see one of many games completely fixed like boxing has been for a while .

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Oh MAN my grandpa would get livid. He loved boxing. Part of the fun I think was getting upset at how rigged it was. lol Kinda like pro-wraslin'...

:banana:

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The world where 1954 Ford Fairlane 500's Exist? Again: Your Words!!:D

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The incompetence in officiating is costing too many games for more teams each week. It isn't until a big market team gets screwed that fans start to care. I am a rugby referees coach and we don't just evaluate refs but work on fixing the issues. I guess the league doesn't want go to with full time referees who are coached. Not just evaluated but coached which is how they need to do it in the future.

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There's all the reasons why they SAY they refs aren't 'full time'. The stuff they broadcast to media and fans. I'm more interested in what they REALLY say behind closed corporate doors. The league resists too many obvious fixes to the problem for my taste.

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I know what they really say behind closed doors. "Rig the game and make damn sure big market teams win. Oh, and...screw the Saints. I can't believe we allowed the refs to beat Peyton Manning to win a super bowl. By God, the Saints will never win again as long as we're in control of the refs." :argue:

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I'm use to this by now. On to this weekend.