Minnihaha Miracle Revisited

SmashMouth · 11-12-2021, 03:17 PM

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I never really analyzed the play like this person did. But after looking at this analysis, it sure looks awfully suspicious. What say you?

SmashMouth · 11-12-2021, 03:22 PM

Rigged also here?

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AsylumGuido · 11-12-2021, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://youtu.be/kqs55ltqAw4

I never really analyzed the play like this person did. But after looking at this analysis, it sure looks awfully suspicious. What say you?

Nope. Thinking things are rigged is an excuse. A poor one at that. Things happen in the NFL. They always have. It takes a lot of luck to win it all in the NFL. Hell, the best teams can lose on any given week with a bad break here or there. It's the nature of the beast.

Boston Saint · 11-12-2021, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://youtu.be/kqs55ltqAw4

I never really analyzed the play like this person did. But after looking at this analysis, it sure looks awfully suspicious. What say you?

absolutely. It’s right there in front of everyone’s face. Some just refuse to see.

stickman · 11-12-2021, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Nope. Thinking things are rigged is an excuse. A poor one at that. Things happen in the NFL. They always have. It takes a lot of luck to win it all in the NFL. Hell, the best teams can lose on any given week with a bad break here or there. It's the nature of the beast.

I'm with you on this Guido. It sucks, but a rookie made a bad play, it happens. We lost. Time to move on.

saintfan · 11-12-2021, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

absolutely. It’s right there in front of everyone’s face. Some just refuse to see.

First play was not PI as we know. What was it? Masterful by the Minny player, who clearly grabbed the defender's wrist to "hold him there"...and then fell. Dude never made an attempt to catch it. Its like playing in the paint. We didn't get the call. This is why I loathed Tony Gonzales. He was the master, and boy could he whine and tantrum to carry the ruse...

And yes, PI should be reviewable. Spot fouls are BS.

I think Williams just made a mistake. I think he was afraid of a PI call. He was clearly trying to get out of the way, not to make a play on the WR. Maybe his brain froze. It's unfortunate, but I don't see it as a conspiracy.

The Rams game? That call? Nobody will ever convince me the fix wasn't in there. It could be that the defender was taught hey, when you're busted, you might as well carry on with it. That's what the defender would have us believe with his interpretation as I remember it. Could be true. Remember that was a no call right in front of the ref who clearly saw it. Oh yes the fix was in.

Looking right at it...

AsylumGuido · 11-12-2021, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

absolutely. It’s right there in front of everyone’s face. Some just refuse to see.

The psychological term is paranoia. The world, or in this case the league, is out to get you. Sorry. I don't buy into that crap.

Boston Saint · 11-12-2021, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The psychological term is paranoia. The world, or in this case the league, is out to get you. Sorry. I don't buy into that crap.

The word is denial. Not just a river in Egypt.

AsylumGuido · 11-12-2021, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

First play was not PI as we know. What was it? Masterful by the Minny player, who clearly grabbed the defender's wrist to "hold him there"...and then fell. Dude never made an attempt to catch it. Its like playing in the paint. We didn't get the call. This is why I loathed Tony Gonzales. He was the master, and boy could he whine and tantrum to carry the ruse...

And yes, PI should be reviewable. Spot fouls are BS.

I think Williams just made a mistake. I think he was afraid of a PI call. He was clearly trying to get out of the way, not to make a play on the WR. Maybe his brain froze. It's unfortunate, but I don't see it as a conspiracy.

The Rams game? That call? Nobody will ever convince me the fix wasn't in there. It could be that the defender was taught hey, when you're busted, you might as well carry on with it. That's what the defender would have us believe with his interpretation as I remember it. Could be true. Remember that was a no call right in front of the ref who clearly saw it. Oh yes the fix was in.

Looking right at it...

Not a fix. Horrible no call for sure. The guy just totally ****ed it up. A fix is premeditated. That was not premeditated.

AsylumGuido · 11-12-2021, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

The word is denial. Not just a river in Egypt.

The word is logical. I know you are all into conspiracies and such. Sorry, but I'm not. I live in the real world. The one that isn't always out to get me.

11-12-2021, 04:23 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Minnihaha Miracle Revisited Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://youtu.be/kqs55ltqAw4 I never really analyzed the play like this person did. But after looking at this analysis, it sure looks awfully suspicious. What say you? Nope. Thinking things are rigged is an excuse. A poor one at that. Things happen in the NFL. They always have. It takes a lot of luck to win it all in the NFL. Hell, the best teams can lose on any given week with a bad break here or there. It's the nature of the beast.

11-12-2021, 04:39 PM	#4
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,874	Re: Minnihaha Miracle Revisited Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://youtu.be/kqs55ltqAw4 I never really analyzed the play like this person did. But after looking at this analysis, it sure looks awfully suspicious. What say you? absolutely. It’s right there in front of everyone’s face. Some just refuse to see. saintfan, SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

11-12-2021, 04:57 PM	#5
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,597	Re: Minnihaha Miracle Revisited Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Nope. Thinking things are rigged is an excuse. A poor one at that. Things happen in the NFL. They always have. It takes a lot of luck to win it all in the NFL. Hell, the best teams can lose on any given week with a bad break here or there. It's the nature of the beast. I'm with you on this Guido. It sucks, but a rookie made a bad play, it happens. We lost. Time to move on. AsylumGuido likes this.

11-12-2021, 05:17 PM	#6
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Minnihaha Miracle Revisited Originally Posted by Boston Saint absolutely. It’s right there in front of everyone’s face. Some just refuse to see. First play was not PI as we know. What was it? Masterful by the Minny player, who clearly grabbed the defender's wrist to "hold him there"...and then fell. Dude never made an attempt to catch it. Its like playing in the paint. We didn't get the call. This is why I loathed Tony Gonzales. He was the master, and boy could he whine and tantrum to carry the ruse... And yes, PI should be reviewable. Spot fouls are BS. I think Williams just made a mistake. I think he was afraid of a PI call. He was clearly trying to get out of the way, not to make a play on the WR. Maybe his brain froze. It's unfortunate, but I don't see it as a conspiracy. The Rams game? That call? Nobody will ever convince me the fix wasn't in there. It could be that the defender was taught hey, when you're busted, you might as well carry on with it. That's what the defender would have us believe with his interpretation as I remember it. Could be true. Remember that was a no call right in front of the ref who clearly saw it. Oh yes the fix was in. Looking right at it... SmashMouth and K Major like this.
	C'mon Man...

11-12-2021, 05:21 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Minnihaha Miracle Revisited Originally Posted by Boston Saint absolutely. It’s right there in front of everyone’s face. Some just refuse to see. The psychological term is paranoia. The world, or in this case the league, is out to get you. Sorry. I don't buy into that crap.

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11-12-2021, 05:30 PM	#8
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,874	Re: Minnihaha Miracle Revisited Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The psychological term is paranoia. The world, or in this case the league, is out to get you. Sorry. I don't buy into that crap. The word is denial. Not just a river in Egypt. saintfan and SmashMouth like this.

11-12-2021, 05:33 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Minnihaha Miracle Revisited Originally Posted by saintfan First play was not PI as we know. What was it? Masterful by the Minny player, who clearly grabbed the defender's wrist to "hold him there"...and then fell. Dude never made an attempt to catch it. Its like playing in the paint. We didn't get the call. This is why I loathed Tony Gonzales. He was the master, and boy could he whine and tantrum to carry the ruse... And yes, PI should be reviewable. Spot fouls are BS. I think Williams just made a mistake. I think he was afraid of a PI call. He was clearly trying to get out of the way, not to make a play on the WR. Maybe his brain froze. It's unfortunate, but I don't see it as a conspiracy. The Rams game? That call? Nobody will ever convince me the fix wasn't in there. It could be that the defender was taught hey, when you're busted, you might as well carry on with it. That's what the defender would have us believe with his interpretation as I remember it. Could be true. Remember that was a no call right in front of the ref who clearly saw it. Oh yes the fix was in. Looking right at it... Not a fix. Horrible no call for sure. The guy just totally ****ed it up. A fix is premeditated. That was not premeditated.

11-12-2021, 05:34 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Minnihaha Miracle Revisited Originally Posted by Boston Saint The word is denial. Not just a river in Egypt. The word is logical. I know you are all into conspiracies and such. Sorry, but I'm not. I live in the real world. The one that isn't always out to get me.