Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans

AsylumGuido · 11-14-2021, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

We have 3 NFC losses so far, 2 divisional. I don't think we'd qualify even if we did reach 9-8.

It doesn't matter if everyone else has a worse record. There are only six teams in the NFC with a winning record right now. Only one at .500 currently, as well. Seven teams reach the tourney. Someone will make it at 9-8. Hell, 8-9 might get a team there.

K Major · 11-14-2021, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I didn't forget. And it's still a chip shot.

35 yards and under is routine for kickers at this level. Rookie or not.

You are 100 % correct. Johnson also missed a PAT last week.

Inexcusable.

ChrisXVI · 11-14-2021, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Have you looked at the rest of the NFC? 9-8 could easily be in the NFC field.

I know… but making the playoffs and making a playoff run are different things. I’m advocating for just finding beauty in the journey and what we can learn in the process because it isn’t Super Bowl or bust anymore.

RailBoss · 11-14-2021, 09:46 PM

"Beauty in the Journey" I like that Chris.

Once I got over the ridiculous roughing the QB call and calmed down I looked at Coach Payton.
Here's a guy who is dealing with all the players he's got and all the players he don't got. I know he get's paid the big bucks but the guy is working it every minute.
Besides getting dealt terrible hands each week he has kept the team competitive. Simple extra points, dropped balls and stupid penalties you name it we got it all.
And still that roughing the passer call was the most disgusting, flagrant, game changing call actually pretty close to that beauty against the Rams.

But I'm trying real hard to live up to and see the "Beauty in the Journey"

I'm trying Ringo, I'm trying real hard - YouTube

jnormand · 11-14-2021, 11:08 PM

I actually like Siemian better than Winston so far. I think he's played well.

But damn...those penalties, missed XPs and stupid ass dropped passes are killers. Brutal.

The Dude · 11-14-2021, 11:53 PM

We are an elite receiver away from being able to hang with anyone. We need to find one…oh wait, we already have one, on paper anyway.
Seriously though, if we had Thomas we could get it done. It was a mistake putting all our eggs in one basket without even attempting to find a number 2 in the offseason. Yes, salary cap, I know, but it could have been done.
Having a kicker would help too. This offseason will be interesting.
Houston should be ashamed of themselves for almost losing to an offense cobbled together with a bunch of practice squad players.

Cruize · 11-15-2021, 12:46 AM

-The season is still in front of the Saints.
-Even with all of the starters being out, the Saints are still competing.
-Lutz is arguably the biggest loss.
-Penalties, drops, Turnovers, and mistakes have to be cleaned up.
-For a great coach with enough talent on offense, the failed 2 point streak is astounding.
-I still believe in this team.

FinSaint · 11-15-2021, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Call me crazy, but James Hurst has looked just fine at LT. With Armstead being a free agent after this season I’m starting to feel pretty comfortable with Hurst being our LT.

Ram is the next LT - he was paid as one.

saintfan · 11-15-2021, 08:13 AM

Armstead is gone I think. Bless his heart he just can't stay on the field for an extended period.

AsylumGuido · 11-15-2021, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

35 yards and under is routine for kickers at this level. Rookie or not.

You are 100 % correct. Johnson also missed a PAT last week.

Inexcusable.

Yes. Inexcusable. I agree. Especially THREE misses in two games. That's why his ass is gone. But, while 35 and under is routine, it is anything but automatic like the old point after. That's why they picked that distance. Just checked and there were 89 missed extra point attempts across the league in 2020. That's even more than I expected.

11-14-2021, 07:29 PM	#21
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,212	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans Originally Posted by dizzle88 We have 3 NFC losses so far, 2 divisional. I don't think we'd qualify even if we did reach 9-8. It doesn't matter if everyone else has a worse record. There are only six teams in the NFC with a winning record right now. Only one at .500 currently, as well. Seven teams reach the tourney. Someone will make it at 9-8. Hell, 8-9 might get a team there.

11-14-2021, 07:39 PM	#22
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans Originally Posted by iceshack149 I didn't forget. And it's still a chip shot. 35 yards and under is routine for kickers at this level. Rookie or not. You are 100 % correct. Johnson also missed a PAT last week. Inexcusable. iceshack149, SmashMouth, dizzle88 and 1 others like this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Have you looked at the rest of the NFC? 9-8 could easily be in the NFC field. I know… but making the playoffs and making a playoff run are different things. I’m advocating for just finding beauty in the journey and what we can learn in the process because it isn’t Super Bowl or bust anymore. WW_Who_Dat and K Major like this.

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,660	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans I actually like Siemian better than Winston so far. I think he's played well. But damn...those penalties, missed XPs and stupid ass dropped passes are killers. Brutal. Sinner likes this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans We are an elite receiver away from being able to hang with anyone. We need to find one…oh wait, we already have one, on paper anyway. Seriously though, if we had Thomas we could get it done. It was a mistake putting all our eggs in one basket without even attempting to find a number 2 in the offseason. Yes, salary cap, I know, but it could have been done. Having a kicker would help too. This offseason will be interesting. Houston should be ashamed of themselves for almost losing to an offense cobbled together with a bunch of practice squad players.
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Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans -The season is still in front of the Saints. -Even with all of the starters being out, the Saints are still competing. -Lutz is arguably the biggest loss. -Penalties, drops, Turnovers, and mistakes have to be cleaned up. -For a great coach with enough talent on offense, the failed 2 point streak is astounding. -I still believe in this team. neugey, RailBoss and SmashMouth like this.
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11-15-2021, 02:48 AM	#28
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Call me crazy, but James Hurst has looked just fine at LT. With Armstead being a free agent after this season I’m starting to feel pretty comfortable with Hurst being our LT. Ram is the next LT - he was paid as one. MatthewT and SmashMouth like this.

11-15-2021, 08:13 AM	#29
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans Armstead is gone I think. Bless his heart he just can't stay on the field for an extended period. SmashMouth likes this.

11-15-2021, 08:15 AM	#30
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,212	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans Originally Posted by K Major 35 yards and under is routine for kickers at this level. Rookie or not. You are 100 % correct. Johnson also missed a PAT last week. Inexcusable. Yes. Inexcusable. I agree. Especially THREE misses in two games. That's why his ass is gone. But, while 35 and under is routine, it is anything but automatic like the old point after. That's why they picked that distance. Just checked and there were 89 missed extra point attempts across the league in 2020. That's even more than I expected.