Re: Saints WR's and TE's versus Saints QB's
 

You have options for a, b, and neither but you are missing the option for both. I feel that both have major effects on the other. I dont think any offense can be successful with horrible receivers or with a horrible qb. I think our receivers are more horrible than our qb but thats just us. Want to see a great qb with horrible receivers, look at the 2019 patriots, very mediocre offense and made the qb look done. Brady goes to tampa and gets good receivers suddenly he is good again. But visa versa take Indy the year Manning got hurt and their horrible backup qb played. The receivers were fine but the offense was not good. Both effect eachother a lot, equally. If Brees was still here and a few years younger, we would look like the 2019 patriots offense. If we had Michael Thomas with Trevor Semian throwing to him, we would look like Trevor Semian with the Broncos who had some decent receivers I believe but was mediocre. If we brought back Tom Savage who is worse than Semian and Hill, but equal to our receivers, we would have the worst passing offense in modern nfl history.

Re: Saints WR's and TE's versus Saints QB's
 

Read carefully. Of course both have an impact on the other. The whole question is which is MORE LIKELY to have an impact (negative or positive) on the other.

Re: Saints WR's and TE's versus Saints QB's
 

Wow! You think the QB's aren't having an effect on the pass catchers? Check this out from Jeff Duncan. Only one team this year in the NFL has a lower catchable pass rate than the Saints!

Re: Saints WR's and TE's versus Saints QB's
 

Re: Saints WR's and TE's versus Saints QB's
 

So which one is correct then, because the other stat from twitter that was posted yesterday says Siemian has the 4th best catchable pass rate in the NFL.

Re: Saints WR's and TE's versus Saints QB's
 

Got me. Holder got his numbers from Sport Info Solutions and Duncan got his from SportsRadar. Holder's was for Siemian only, while Duncan's was for the entire 2021 season.

Re: Saints WR's and TE's versus Saints QB's
 

I don't think Siemian has played that bad. In fact, I've been pleasantly surprised at some of his throws. You can't have a game where receivers drop eight passes and expect to have a lot of offensive success. My one criticism for him is holding the ball too long and taking sacks.

Re: Saints WR's and TE's versus Saints QB's
 

Drew made his above average receivers look good. Siemian has put the ball in his receivers hands but they aren't catching most of them. Could Drew do more with these receivers? Yes, but probably not that much better. I miss stickum'!!!

Option B is easily my choice.

Re: Saints WR's and TE's versus Saints QB's
 

Yes we are. We still are talking about dropped passes. We still are talking about penalties. We still are talking about fumbles. We still are talking about poor rout running and separation. Not to mention bad kicking and defensive letdowns. None of that has anything to do with a QBs preparation intensity.

Re: Saints WR's and TE's versus Saints QB's
 

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