Saints to Honor Brees on Thanksgiving Day

dizzle88 · 11-18-2021, 04:29 AM

I mean bear in mind that Brees was not a hall of famer the minute he joined in 2006. He was driven from the start yes, but it was only really 2008 onwards that he started the incredible pace that pushed him into the conversation.

Siemian, Taysom or Winston cannot be compared to Brees in any regard this early on, which includes what Brees could make with these Receivers vs what the current QB's can.

AsylumGuido · 11-18-2021, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by gulfgambler

I don't know AG.
I don't recall Brees having this poor of receiver group

Brees made those receivers what they were. On and off the field. He could easily do the same with these. Callaway, Tre'Quan, Harris, Stills, and even Kevin White have real potential.

AsylumGuido · 11-18-2021, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Because Brees made WRs that much better; Constant refining QB details - early AM film, specific ball placement, Correct PreSnap reads/audibles, clear/concise communication with teammates, et cetera...

Brees understood his job and all those around him; as talented as our QB room currently is, not one has made that level of commitment to match Brees' effort...

100% this!

Rugby Saint II · 11-18-2021, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Brees made those receivers what they were. On and off the field. He could easily do the same with these. Callaway, Tre'Quan, Harris, Stills, and even Kevin White have real potential.

True Dat. Most of them have potential just no talent.

blackangold · 11-18-2021, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Because Brees made WRs that much better; Constant refining QB details - early AM film, specific ball placement, Correct PreSnap reads/audibles, clear/concise communication with teammates, et cetera...

Brees understood his job and all those around him; as talented as our QB room currently is, not one has made that level of commitment to match Brees' effort...

So are we expecting the next QB we have to be at Drew Brees level? Can we be a winning team without a hall of fame QB?

How about instead of focusing on getting the best QB in the league to lead our team, we get the WRs and TEs away from being the worst group on any team.

If we get Top 10 QB play combined with Top 10 WRs, I think we have a shot. However, it seems many of you are arguing that we need top 3 QB play and we'll accept having bottom 3 WR play.

ALL OF US NEED TO UNDERSTAND... Drew Brees isn't coming back, and we are not likely to have a QB as good as him in our lifetime again. Prime Drew Brees was the best QB I have seen play, but we don't need that level of QB to win.

jeanpierre · 11-18-2021, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

So are we expecting the next QB we have to be at Drew Brees level? Can we be a winning team without a hall of fame QB?

How about instead of focusing on getting the best QB in the league to lead our team, we get the WRs and TEs away from being the worst group on any team.

If we get Top 10 QB play combined with Top 10 WRs, I think we have a shot. However, it seems many of you are arguing that we need top 3 QB play and we'll accept having bottom 3 WR play.

ALL OF US NEED TO UNDERSTAND... Drew Brees isn't coming back, and we are not likely to have a QB as good as him in our lifetime again. Prime Drew Brees was the best QB I have seen play, but we don't need that level of QB to win.

Black, Am simply making a statement of reality; all of us, to differing degrees are still in denial about how much Drew Brees brought to this team...

This system QB commentary talking heads use to downplay Brees is just flat out bullshinski, he had a Hall of Fame work ethic - not easily replaced...

Folks gotta realize Brees' work ethic had that kind of impact on this team; now that it's gone, that void, vacuum is exposing the rest of the offense...

Now, I'd argue physically, the QB room we have is more talented than Brees'; but the mental and commitment boxes are not checked when in comparison to Brees...

The new reality #WhoDatNation is not fully grasping is this -

The Saints Lost The All-Time Most Prolific, Productive Passer in NFL History.

Easily said, but you really have to let that sit and settle into the thought process...

Old, breaking-down Brees did more with these same WRs, TEs, OL than we're seeing now, and that's just reality, fact...

So unless the new QBs and other members of the offense, even Coaches, step up to make up for what we lost in Brees, we're going to continue to see mediocrity...

If the adjustments, improvements to step up are made, this roster has the talent to blow the doors out on any franchise in this league...

saintsfan1976 · 11-18-2021, 04:43 PM

I cannot wait to see this happen. Brees deserved a capacity Dome for his final season.

11-18-2021, 04:29 AM	#11
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,182	Re: Saints to Honor Brees on Thanksgiving Day I mean bear in mind that Brees was not a hall of famer the minute he joined in 2006. He was driven from the start yes, but it was only really 2008 onwards that he started the incredible pace that pushed him into the conversation. Siemian, Taysom or Winston cannot be compared to Brees in any regard this early on, which includes what Brees could make with these Receivers vs what the current QB's can. AsylumGuido likes this.

11-18-2021, 09:21 AM	#12
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,166	Re: Saints to Honor Brees on Thanksgiving Day Originally Posted by gulfgambler I don't know AG. I don't recall Brees having this poor of receiver group Brees made those receivers what they were. On and off the field. He could easily do the same with these. Callaway, Tre'Quan, Harris, Stills, and even Kevin White have real potential.

11-18-2021, 09:23 AM	#13
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,166	Re: Saints to Honor Brees on Thanksgiving Day Originally Posted by jeanpierre Because Brees made WRs that much better; Constant refining QB details - early AM film, specific ball placement, Correct PreSnap reads/audibles, clear/concise communication with teammates, et cetera... Brees understood his job and all those around him; as talented as our QB room currently is, not one has made that level of commitment to match Brees' effort... 100% this! jeanpierre likes this.

11-18-2021, 02:20 PM	#14
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,044	Re: Saints to Honor Brees on Thanksgiving Day Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Brees made those receivers what they were. On and off the field. He could easily do the same with these. Callaway, Tre'Quan, Harris, Stills, and even Kevin White have real potential. True Dat. Most of them have potential just no talent.

11-18-2021, 03:00 PM	#15
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints to Honor Brees on Thanksgiving Day Originally Posted by jeanpierre Because Brees made WRs that much better; Constant refining QB details - early AM film, specific ball placement, Correct PreSnap reads/audibles, clear/concise communication with teammates, et cetera... Brees understood his job and all those around him; as talented as our QB room currently is, not one has made that level of commitment to match Brees' effort... So are we expecting the next QB we have to be at Drew Brees level? Can we be a winning team without a hall of fame QB? How about instead of focusing on getting the best QB in the league to lead our team, we get the WRs and TEs away from being the worst group on any team. If we get Top 10 QB play combined with Top 10 WRs, I think we have a shot. However, it seems many of you are arguing that we need top 3 QB play and we'll accept having bottom 3 WR play. ALL OF US NEED TO UNDERSTAND... Drew Brees isn't coming back, and we are not likely to have a QB as good as him in our lifetime again. Prime Drew Brees was the best QB I have seen play, but we don't need that level of QB to win. saintfan likes this.
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints to Honor Brees on Thanksgiving Day Originally Posted by blackangold So are we expecting the next QB we have to be at Drew Brees level? Can we be a winning team without a hall of fame QB? How about instead of focusing on getting the best QB in the league to lead our team, we get the WRs and TEs away from being the worst group on any team. If we get Top 10 QB play combined with Top 10 WRs, I think we have a shot. However, it seems many of you are arguing that we need top 3 QB play and we'll accept having bottom 3 WR play. ALL OF US NEED TO UNDERSTAND... Drew Brees isn't coming back, and we are not likely to have a QB as good as him in our lifetime again. Prime Drew Brees was the best QB I have seen play, but we don't need that level of QB to win. Black, Am simply making a statement of reality; all of us, to differing degrees are still in denial about how much Drew Brees brought to this team... This system QB commentary talking heads use to downplay Brees is just flat out bullshinski, he had a Hall of Fame work ethic - not easily replaced... Folks gotta realize Brees' work ethic had that kind of impact on this team; now that it's gone, that void, vacuum is exposing the rest of the offense... Now, I'd argue physically, the QB room we have is more talented than Brees'; but the mental and commitment boxes are not checked when in comparison to Brees... The new reality #WhoDatNation is not fully grasping is this - The Saints Lost The All-Time Most Prolific, Productive Passer in NFL History. Easily said, but you really have to let that sit and settle into the thought process... Old, breaking-down Brees did more with these same WRs, TEs, OL than we're seeing now, and that's just reality, fact... So unless the new QBs and other members of the offense, even Coaches, step up to make up for what we lost in Brees, we're going to continue to see mediocrity... If the adjustments, improvements to step up are made, this roster has the talent to blow the doors out on any franchise in this league...
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11-18-2021, 04:43 PM	#17
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints to Honor Brees on Thanksgiving Day I cannot wait to see this happen. Brees deserved a capacity Dome for his final season. iceshack149 likes this.