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There is so much WRONG to talk about with the Team right now, but in terms of ENERGY or momentum, a call like that turns everything around. A bunch of patchwork B Players can start having fun and shock the favored Team once the ball starts rolling, but a call like that one, throws a monkey wrench into the gears real quick.

How can something so blatantly obvious be allowed to stand, without even an instant review? And where does the call to make that call come from?

Curious...

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I understand that mistakes get made. What I find inexcusable is that the officials as a team don't discuss the call. Have a huddle and a "what did you see?" discussion. A flag like that should be picked up unless they are quite certain it was legitimate. The other refs needed to step in.

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I mean, THAT one was so obviously wrong, they could have just watched the replay up on the big screen.

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Thats the problem I see in alot of NFL games is they quickly make the call, no discussion, and move on.

Their was also a false start penalty on the Saints I think was bogus because the Cowboys linemen was moving all around prior.

But this kind of thing is expected with the condition of this team is in right now. Winning teams is going to continue to get favorable calls, its been expected.

Also the NFL has learned to when call penalties or not call penalties on teams like the Saints where Peyton has coached into them momentum and turning points of a game.

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Also we were playing " Americas Team" we should all be used to this by now. Most times when there's red linen on the field I just assume it's against us.

But this from Vrillon:
Also the NFL has learned when to call penalties or not call penalties on teams like the Saints where Peyton has coached into them momentum and turning points of a game.

Case in point the Blindside Block not to mention that breakout run from Ingram getting called back. Momentum Killers always on queue.

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Just when you thought the ridiculous call (roughing) on Ellis vs Titans call was bad ... we get this one on last night. It's hard to win a game and the refs.

Sucks for us but a bad call like this is going to hurt a team in the postseason.

An atrocious call & SP never received a clear explanation from the officials ... because it was bogus.

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It was definitely a bad call and definitely a game changer. I was wondering if the non-call roughing the passer on the int where Prescott was hit in the head was a make up for that play in a way.

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Roger called NY control and said “It’s time screwum when you can and then deny them any explanation” Sh*t happens baby.

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"The League" wanted to slow down our momentum. Folks we were not expected to have a chance and "The League" does not want Washington (formerly the Redskins) anywhere near anything meaningful.

Dallas had to win that game. One thing is for sure - nobody has a better explanation because at this point nobody has ANY explanation.

Saintfan smells a rat...

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If the league wanted to drop the hammer on Washington, they'd simply penalize them for the workplace issues they spent time and money investigating. Instead, they sniped Chucky.

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I have an explanation. The officials are all part time. The NFL is the only major professional sport with part time officials. They are basically incompetent on average. I believe the NFL knows they need to go to fulltime refs, but how? How do you sufficiently train 17 or 18 full crews from scratch during a single off-season? There are several competent officials currently, but how many would give up their regular careers to become fulltime. That first year of transition would be a nightmare.

It will also take an "eye in the sky" official that can immediately over turn any call on the field or quickly submit an ignored or missed call.

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Its also possible that if the officials were full time, they would be able to train year round on how to screw all the teams Goodell hates and plausibly deny it, much more severely and cleverly than they already do. I would rather emphasize independent accountable officials first and worry about full time later. North Korean judges are full time, that doesnt make them impartial as long as they protect their own and answer to the little rocket man. We have a little rocket man problem, even moreso than an officiating problem.

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After reading this I'm thinking maybe start out with 20 crew chiefs full time.
Their responsibility would be games and year round training. I'm sure with the leagues money they could easily afford it.

However that may cut into Rogers humble salary and his shack in the modest little village of Bronxville, NY (just a tad bit more affluent than the Bronx itself)

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There are a LOT of possible solutions, and the league keeps kicking the can and has been for decades as it flatly refuses to address what is a very real 'problem', unless of course they don't really want to address it.

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At least we made it to the highlight reel.

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Rigged league on full display.

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Not rigged officiating. Incompetent. As part time officials they have little true incentive to be more competent. If they lose their refereeing jobs, big deal. They still have their real paying jobs at home. Fulltime refs would have a vested interest.

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I think that’s one of the reasons Sean Payton stepped down from the competition committee… He was a big advocate for full-time refs, among other things, and they don’t seem to have any interest in making those improvements.

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absolutely rigged. Anyone that thinks otherwise is swimming in denial. I don’t mean the river in Egypt.

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Da Nial ...Lol

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Yeah. I think he's as frustrated as a lot of us. I'm sure he, like me and so many others, see's solutions, and he also see's the league refuse to address the situation.

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That was a bad call no doubt. I don't believe the league is rigged- but if it is, it isn't for or against certain teams- it's because of gambling interests.

And while we have our gripes, the Cowboys are also one of the most penalized teams and last week were making their own rigged complaints about the calls against them vs the Raiders.

We as fans are too quick to focus on the calls that are eggregious against us without remembering when we benefit or when it happens to all teams.

Every team in the NFL probably has made these complaints at one time.

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"...acknowledged privately..."? WTF is that?

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Basically the NFL saying, "yeah the ref messed up but so what?"

They don't care. Them admitting a wrongdoing does nothing at this stage, just like in 2018.

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Personally I don't sweat bad calls. It happens. It is the strike zone in MLB. It makes it human...the mistakes...and honestly it's part of the fun. And that's fine.

However, I saw it happen against the Steelers this year. I saw it happen again on Thursday. I watch 3-5 games a week probably. I've been seeing it happen for decades. These absolutely and stunningly bad calls. Made at crucial moments. That are drive and momentum killers.

Coach beats the team up over stupid mistakes. That's accountability. The league, in my humble opinion, has been dodging that accountability for a very (read VERY) long time. Very smart very rich people, in a room, behind closed doors, focused not on fair play but on making money.

I read or heard somewhere recently a league official was quoted as saying, "we call what the league tells us to call". I believe him absolutely. It doesn't always work, and the targets change from week to week. Not always. Too obvious. But enough. Only about 35 people and their lawyers know about it.

Sure it's a conspiracy theory...and a damn good one. Nobody can prove it wrong because the league itself, like any good politician, knows precisely how to not be transparent. The league knows how to manipulate the mob.

Are we not entertained?

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I too am baffled that the NFL doesn't take steps to fix the problem and wonder why. I do think they like the inconstincies as it adds suspense and drama. I would think they would want it cleaned up. I don't believe there is a conspiracy to rig the games for certain teams.

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Watch this video and listen to Pelissero's stats. It's hard not to think that Goodell's NFL has it out for the Saints.

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One of the things that makes me think things are “fixed” is not just that there are various bad calls that all teams must accept. But it’s that a handful of teams seem to get more of these calls go for them than others. A few counter examples exist for every team obviously, but for the most part a handful of teams like the Pats and Packers constantly seem to be on the winning side of these calls and a handful like the Saints are on the losing side. If it was truly incompetent performance by the powers that be then it wouldn’t be so predictable when we see them make these calls for Brady Mahomes, etc in key moments we all know are coming.

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You've argued this point in numerous threads over the years and I agree 100.

ZERO accountability.

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I pointed out earlier what I felt were the roadblocks to addressing the problem. How do they go directly from part time officials to fulltime in one offseason? Sure, some of the officials would be willing to giving up their real careers to become fulltime time, but there's a very real possibility it would be mostly made up of those that ARE the problem in the first place.

Perhaps one solution might be to faze in the transition making crew chiefs and "sky judges" fulltime time first. Cherry pick the very best ones willing to become fulltime. Then start transitioning the rest of crews over a couple of years or so. Add two more fulltime officials to every crew every year for three years. That'll bring it to the seven on field and the one booth official for every crew. One more thing, make the job worth it to the officials with excellent pay, but also grading that can affect their status throughout the season and from season to season.

And I agree completely about the ridiculous notion that games are rigged for certain teams. That's fan paranoia at its best, or worse, depending upon the viewpoint.

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It makes me laugh thinking about how people who watch every game, listen constantly to NFL talking mouthpieces, follow all the twitter outlets and invest so much emotionally and financially into following the league think that they have the objective, unbiased viewpoint, defend obvious league attempts to NOT address the situation and consider it phobic when other people point out reality.

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I love this statement from the official website: https://operations.nfl.com/officiati...g-for-success/

THE RESULTS
A typical 2020 NFL game averaged just over 156 plays — a number that has remained high in recent years as more teams run up-tempo offenses.

More plays create more chances for an official's call (or non-call) to be reviewed — and also increases the possibility of error. Still, in 2020, the most plays (99.1 percent) were officiated on the field without instant replay review.

Even on the toughest, most controversial calls that were elevated to instant replay review, an official’s initial ruling on the field is confirmed nearly two-thirds of the time. Only 40 percent of on-field calls have been overturned since 1999.

Confirmed nearly 2/3 of the time. but also "only" overturned 40% of the calls...

In my opinion, less of the focus should be on the men and women on the field and more towards leveraging technology and additional personnel (say in studio) to improve both the Accuracy of calls and Timeliness of corrections.

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Indeed. I made the comment previously that it’s pathetic there are no rules regarding how many and placement of cameras for an NFL game. They can review, have rules for and fine players for uniform violations but not have rules for cameras...ok.

And the statement they put out is silly. Good point about the downplay of the high percentage of plays being overturned that they ignored, but that does not include reviewable plays that were not even reviewed because of lack of team challenges or being at the end of a half or teams rushing up to snap before the review can happen.

Couple that with calls that are NOT reviewable like roughing the passer, PI, holding, and block in the back and the idea that the refs are doing a good job is ridiculous.

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I think I've said in a previous thread - the first change I would make is that ALL personal foul/roughing passer/targeting/defenseless receiver/unnecessary roughness plays should be automatically reviewed using video replay.

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Maybe it’s the economist in me, but if the stat is that in a small sample of audits, you have a 40% error rate, it generally indicates a massive problem. If this were an accounting audit, there would be jail time.

I understand that the game is fast and complicated, but there is technology to assist. VAR is used in professional soccer at any point in the match, and there is a professional crew on and off the field. It actually makes the game better and more satisfying when you can tell if the result was fairly obtained.

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Was just thinking about VAR in soccer which is a faster non stop game. It's not perfect but it seems to have cleaned up a lot of missed or incorrect calls.

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Eagle Eye in tennis. Although not apples to apples, it's still an example of just how antiquated the NFL is.

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Now *this* is a blindside block