QB observations

Boston Saint · 12-05-2021, 02:23 PM

I’m being fed the Falcons game up here and it’s got me thinking. Brady looks good and can still perform physically. Not surprising from a HOF like him. But he’s got a lot of help from O line, refs, and skill position players.

But it shows how bad Ryan looks. I know that’s not a surprise, but hear me out. Wilson in Seattle was supposed to build a dynasty up there. Yet I watched their game last week and he looked lost even with good WRs.

Again, Ryan looks crappy, but he has looked good in the past prime years (I know I’ll catch **** for that statement), and when you consider guys like Wilson and Rogers (only won 1 SB) one can wonder if there can’t be that much difference between them and say Cousins, Carr, Murray, Mahomes etc. It makes you wonder where Hill, Winston, and Book fit into the landscape with what may be available via trade or free agency.

Just a thought.

saintsfan1976 · 12-05-2021, 02:43 PM

I've always said "our next QB is already playing in the NFL".

We get Jameis. Then it went off the rails. The way Payton runs his offense, I'm thinking we need a top flight FA or a top 10 draft pick.

RailBoss · 12-05-2021, 04:35 PM

I guess the big question is will Jameis ever make it back. Sean's original game plan was working with Jameis or so it seemed.
But when the first mate went into sick bay the ship went aground pretty quick.

K Major · 12-05-2021, 05:28 PM

With the recent news with Ben R, wouldn't surprise me to see Winston land in Pittsburgh. He'd have more weapons at WR that's for sure.

Saints could be the Ian Book &/or Taysom Hill show in 2022.

Boutte · 12-05-2021, 08:26 PM

How many "starters" from Thursday won't even be on a NFL roster next year?
At least we're finding out who can play.

Rell&Gold · 12-06-2021, 01:13 AM

If Jameis walks Russ or Rodgers doesn't come Saints go after Teddy that doesn't work Saints draft a QB; if we lose to the Jets boy oh boy...Taysoms next couple games decides his fate with the Saints

Rugby Saint II · 12-07-2021, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I’m being fed the Falcons game up here and it’s got me thinking. Brady looks good and can still perform physically. Not surprising from a HOF like him. But he’s got a lot of help from O line, refs, and skill position players.

But it shows how bad Ryan looks. I know that’s not a surprise, but hear me out. Wilson in Seattle was supposed to build a dynasty up there. Yet I watched their game last week and he looked lost even with good WRs.

Again, Ryan looks crappy, but he has looked good in the past prime years (I know I’ll catch **** for that statement), and when you consider guys like Wilson and Rogers (only won 1 SB) one can wonder if there can’t be that much difference between them and say Cousins, Carr, Murray, Mahomes etc. It makes you wonder where Hill, Winston, and Book fit into the landscape with what may be available via trade or free agency.

Just a thought.

Are there any other top picks out there that went to crappy teams who ruined them that Payton can fix? The ones you mentioned above seem like they are worth a deep look in the offseason.

Thirty3 · 12-07-2021, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

If Jameis walks Russ or Rodgers doesn't come Saints go after Teddy that doesn't work Saints draft a QB; if we lose to the Jets boy oh boy...Taysoms next couple games decides his fate with the Saints

Taysom’s next couple games are with busted foot and Throwing hand.

MatthewT · 12-08-2021, 08:24 AM

I believe the 2022 Saints QB situation will be about the same. Winston will likely be brought back as the starter, Hill will do his usual thing, and Book will get another year. The only real question to me, is Book ready to assume a primary backup roll? If the answer is yes then the Saints do not bring back Siemian, if no then the Saints bring back Siemian and carry 4 QBs again.

Boston Saint · 12-08-2021, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Are there any other top picks out there that went to crappy teams who ruined them that Payton can fix? The ones you mentioned above seem like they are worth a deep look in the offseason.

The free agent list of QBs is not very promising IMO.

12-05-2021, 02:23 PM	#1
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	QB observations I’m being fed the Falcons game up here and it’s got me thinking. Brady looks good and can still perform physically. Not surprising from a HOF like him. But he’s got a lot of help from O line, refs, and skill position players. But it shows how bad Ryan looks. I know that’s not a surprise, but hear me out. Wilson in Seattle was supposed to build a dynasty up there. Yet I watched their game last week and he looked lost even with good WRs. Again, Ryan looks crappy, but he has looked good in the past prime years (I know I’ll catch **** for that statement), and when you consider guys like Wilson and Rogers (only won 1 SB) one can wonder if there can’t be that much difference between them and say Cousins, Carr, Murray, Mahomes etc. It makes you wonder where Hill, Winston, and Book fit into the landscape with what may be available via trade or free agency. Just a thought. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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12-05-2021, 02:43 PM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: QB observations I've always said "our next QB is already playing in the NFL". We get Jameis. Then it went off the rails. The way Payton runs his offense, I'm thinking we need a top flight FA or a top 10 draft pick. jnormand, Rell&Gold, K Major and 1 others like this.

12-05-2021, 04:35 PM	#3
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: QB observations I guess the big question is will Jameis ever make it back. Sean's original game plan was working with Jameis or so it seemed. But when the first mate went into sick bay the ship went aground pretty quick. Rugby Saint II, Rell&Gold and Boston Saint like this.

12-05-2021, 05:28 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: QB observations With the recent news with Ben R, wouldn't surprise me to see Winston land in Pittsburgh. He'd have more weapons at WR that's for sure. Saints could be the Ian Book &/or Taysom Hill show in 2022. neugey, Rell&Gold and Boston Saint like this.

12-05-2021, 08:26 PM	#5
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: QB observations How many "starters" from Thursday won't even be on a NFL roster next year? At least we're finding out who can play. SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II, bobdog86 and 2 others like this.

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12-06-2021, 01:13 AM	#6
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: QB observations If Jameis walks Russ or Rodgers doesn't come Saints go after Teddy that doesn't work Saints draft a QB; if we lose to the Jets boy oh boy...Taysoms next couple games decides his fate with the Saints

12-07-2021, 03:43 PM	#7
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: QB observations Originally Posted by Boston Saint I’m being fed the Falcons game up here and it’s got me thinking. Brady looks good and can still perform physically. Not surprising from a HOF like him. But he’s got a lot of help from O line, refs, and skill position players. But it shows how bad Ryan looks. I know that’s not a surprise, but hear me out. Wilson in Seattle was supposed to build a dynasty up there. Yet I watched their game last week and he looked lost even with good WRs. Again, Ryan looks crappy, but he has looked good in the past prime years (I know I’ll catch ** for that statement), and when you consider guys like Wilson and Rogers (only won 1 SB) one can wonder if there can’t be that much difference between them and say Cousins, Carr, Murray, Mahomes etc.** It makes you wonder where Hill, Winston, and Book fit into the landscape with what may be available via trade or free agency. Just a thought. Are there any other top picks out there that went to crappy teams who ruined them that Payton can fix? The ones you mentioned above seem like they are worth a deep look in the offseason.

12-07-2021, 05:18 PM	#8
Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,255	Re: QB observations Originally Posted by Rell&Gold If Jameis walks Russ or Rodgers doesn't come Saints go after Teddy that doesn't work Saints draft a QB; if we lose to the Jets boy oh boy...Taysoms next couple games decides his fate with the Saints Taysom’s next couple games are with busted foot and Throwing hand.
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12-08-2021, 08:24 AM	#9
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: QB observations I believe the 2022 Saints QB situation will be about the same. Winston will likely be brought back as the starter, Hill will do his usual thing, and Book will get another year. The only real question to me, is Book ready to assume a primary backup roll? If the answer is yes then the Saints do not bring back Siemian, if no then the Saints bring back Siemian and carry 4 QBs again. Boston Saint likes this.

12-08-2021, 09:36 AM	#10
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: QB observations Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Are there any other top picks out there that went to crappy teams who ruined them that Payton can fix? The ones you mentioned above seem like they are worth a deep look in the offseason. The free agent list of QBs is not very promising IMO.