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I forgot to add him. He played hard as well.

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Plenty of pages unpublished in this Book.

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The first page, first paragraph, was a real doozie!

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I saw some early stats that said he dropped back 10 times and he was either sacked, hit, or pressured on every single one of those plays.

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It was stunning, really. At the point where he had like 23 drop backs he'd either been hit or sacked on 21 of them. It was brutal.

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Ian needs to learn how to throw the ball away & not take sacks.

Unnecessary punishment.

Live for another day.

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If Book is going to be your QB you better get him a lot of weapons on the outside. This isn’t the ACC so the mobility he flashed in college will not work for him in the NFL.

In today’s league you have to be able to stretch the field…at least have a threat. Book’s are looked weaker than Taysoms…not good. That was the biggest knock on him in college.

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He wasn't utilizing the pocket on occasions when he had some sort of one. He kept rolling out of it to the right taking away the whole left hand side of the field out of play.

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He had open receivers all night, but had no time to even recognize them. Brees would have been finding them all night long making the Dolphins back off the pressure.

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What annoys me so much is that Book even got buried on the 17 yard completion to Callaway, during MAX PROTECTION.

I think it showed for what it is, a guy starting who all season has taken nothing but "mental reps" and nearly half the team out with Covid.

Hopefully Book can use this performance as a spring board and grow from it, we aren't getting anywhere with that O line though.
Ruiz basically retired Brees, what chance did Book have?

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Book it... book is closed, and shelved

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I suspect that Book has seen his last live ammo snap of the season with hopefully Taysom returning this week. Even Siemian gives us a better shot at this point for a very real shot at that playoff berth. During our five hour drive home from NOLA we heard analysts consistently saying that Book simply is not NFL ready especially under adverse conditions.

Hopefully four fifths of that offensive line is back on the streets or on the practice squad come 3:25 this coming Sunday.

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Brees would have at least gotten the ball out quickly to AK or Ingram at not throw it to them as a last second desperation. Last year Brees couldn’t push the ball downfield. It’s hard to have 13 play scoring drives every time the offense touches the field. We saw the struggles several times at the end of the season. Brees is gone and not coming back so let’s close that chapter.

He had plenty of plays where the throw was there but he took his eyes off the WR. I understand the o line play was terrible but it’s clear now and it was clear in preseason that he is a backup QB. Poor arm strength and above average accuracy. Book is not athletic or elusive enough to run away from linemen in the NFL. He will be another Chase Daniel type QB.

Everything you saw last night was a video of the knocks on him coming out of college.

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Book threw some passes to Callaway.

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Oh absolutely, at this point Taysom gives us the best chance to succeed. I just hope Book didn't get too disheartened, whilst he made some mistakes, other areas that could help him, did not.
But yeah, he definitely wasn't ready and that's not really anyone's fault, who expects to go into the season with 4 QB's and have to play the 4th and sign a 5th, it's unheard of.

Hopefully he jumps a few spots on the Depth Chart next season.

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No starting tackles, 3rd tier backups & a bad guard (Ruiz) on 2 days of practice. What the hell was the kid to do back there?

I know that was tough for his family to watch. QB running for his life on every other play.

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Not much he could do, K. He wasn't ready even for ideal conditions. This was the worst case scenario for a debut.

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This is exactly what I'm talking about.

Book gets absolutely destroyed. Nearby Offensive Lineman just walking around, when hes noticeably in pain.

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That was the worst offensive line play I've ever seen. Ever. It was absolutely awful. Those guys should feel horrible. Book got trucked multiple times.

The fact he kept getting up and trying to make plays shows me he's tough. I would really like to see him play a game with an offensive line that wasn't patched together 2 days before the game.

What a joke.

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Coach said it wasn't about Book is was about the people around him. Coach said that BEFORE the game.

Pretty clear (to me, the announcers, and most everyone else) the 'people around him' collectively did not perform. There are myriad reasons.

Trying to have a meaningful conversation about Book? Absurd. The only takeaway is that he's a tough kid, like you said, because he took a beating.

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I agree with everything you said except for the part about rescheduling the game. How would that even be possible? Waiting a day or two wouldn't guarantee allowing many, if any, players to return and would throw the next week's scheduling into a problem. Just wondering what you thought.

We were basically screwed because it was a Monday game.

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I haven't seen the whole game yet...just saw till the saints went up 3. Also haven't read all of the comments on this thread. Yet one observation: Book completed 60% of his passes under such duress. Winston on the other hand only managed 58.something.

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Thirty,

Why are you comparing a rookie, first game ever as a pro vs Winston? I noticed you also brought up stats with terrible Terrible Trevor a few weeks back vs Winston as well. Why?

Do you really believe either are better at QB than Jameis :rolleyes:?

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Winston's completion percentage was an even 59% with an average depth of target at 8.3 yards. Book completed an even 60% with an average depth of target only 3.8 yards. Most of his targets were actually under three yards. He should have had a good completion percentage.

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What kind of line was Jameis playing behind? How about his WR through those games?

You're an idiot. Nothing can be gleaned from Book's game. He was playing with guys getting fitted for their uniform a few days before the game...he didn't even have the JV team on the field with him.

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Yeah, no comparison. Winston had it made compared to Books rag tag O-line. Book got a taste of Archie days!!

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We cant evaluate Book from this game, but we can evaluate the overall odds of an unheralded mid round draft pick who doesnt seem to amaze in practice or preseason becoming a superstar, and it happens, but the odds are low.

I feel that Winstons strong arm and touch on deep passes provided an extra dimension to the offense that opened up the running game. I dont think our other qbs do that. Hill provides an extra dimension running, but running qbs are forever injury prone. Winston would provide even more of a deep threat if we had legit receivers.

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Book showed a few nice things and alot of rookie issues.
Not far to judge him on that night at all.

I thought he was far quicker to read and react that Hill often is. The few longer passes he attempted looked like they had far more zip on them. Amd if he felt the protection go he went, now that's not always a good thing and he needs to learn just get rid of the ball but he wasn't the deer in the headlights you see from many young QB. I think he reluctance to throw the ball away was probably due to the pick 6 and being worried about the ball being tipped again.
If the playoffs were impossible I'd like to see him start again, not sure they will with a possible wild card spot still there.

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Yes. That's the point I was trying to make. Thirty3 was comparing a Winston completion percentage stat to a Book completion percentage stat. The circumstances are apples to oranges. Book had no time to look down field and had to dump the ball of all night long. That's why I included the depth of target numbers. Of course you'd better have a high completion percentage dumping the ball off. That's common sense, right?

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And yet earlier you stated Book was not going through his progressions.

Which is it dumb ass? Do you actually have an original thought?