AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD.

K Major · 12-29-2021, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I keep thinking we've hit rock bottom but apparently the 2021 season knows no end...

Indeed.

Boston Saint · 12-29-2021, 09:12 AM

....

vpheughan · 12-30-2021, 10:00 AM

Did you know?

Just to remind everyone that the NFL has defined itself in court as a Sports Entertainment Business.

It's amazing that a bunch of Supposedly Grown Ass Men have their lives RULED by something they have absolutely ZERO control over!

Something that isn't even "REAL" it's all a show!! Sports Entertainment Business remember?

You guys get together and watch Ole Yeller over and over and over and over and over yet still cry like Tommy Kirk when Ole Yeller gets put down?

skymike · 01-02-2022, 05:41 AM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Did you know?
Just to remind everyone that the NFL has defined itself in court as a Sports Entertainment Business.

It has a "Self Employed Models" ring to it, doesnt it?

Very glad to not be subjecting myself & my mental state to the decisions of
these buffoons. Its been above 80 degrees for about 2 weeks on the Gulf Coast,

your tagline "Lets Go Guido!" LOL

gumbeau · 01-02-2022, 06:15 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

It has a "Self Employed Models" ring to it, doesnt it?

Very glad to not be subjecting myself & my mental state to the decisions of
these buffoons. Its been above 80 degrees for about 2 weeks on the Gulf Coast,

your tagline "Lets Go Guido!" LOL

Hey Skymike,

I kinda miss the old days back when I believed the NFL was an actual sport, mostly for the good times shared with friends.

Sitting in the stands in the Superdome, I knew my NFL fandom was over within moments of the infamous no-call.

My family, season ticket holders for decades, hasn’t attended a game since. Some still watch, although with a lot less enthusiasm. My only connection to the NFL is to pay enough attention to discuss the Saints with my mother, who isn’t giving up on her 55 years of Saints quite yet.

This year has only fortified the impression that the NFL seeks to influence games while maintaining the plausible deniability of “incompetent” referees.

Unfortunately, I now don’t believe Superbowl XLIV was real either. The Saints were brief benefactors of the NFL machinations because of Katrina.

Life is certainly better without the emotional high and low of really being invested in being a Saint’s fan but, just like when you discover Santa Claus isn’t real, Christmas and fall just aren’t the same.

I was a fool, but a happy fool. I am a little jealous of the folks who can’t see what I see.

Good to see you post again. Every time I hear you on the radio, I think about Big Woodrow’s and the fun times.

The world has moved on.

Cheers and happy new year.

skymike · 01-02-2022, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by gumbeau

Hey Skymike,
I kinda miss the old days back when I believed the NFL was an actual sport, mostly for the good times shared with friends.
Sitting in the stands in the Superdome, I knew my NFL fandom was over within moments of the infamous no-call.
My family, season ticket holders for decades, hasn’t attended a game since. Some still watch, although with a lot less enthusiasm. My only connection to the NFL is to pay enough attention to discuss the Saints with my mother, who isn’t giving up on her 55 years of Saints quite yet.
This year has only fortified the impression that the NFL seeks to influence games while maintaining the plausible deniability of “incompetent” referees.
Unfortunately, I now don’t believe Superbowl XLIV was real either. The Saints were brief benefactors of the NFL machinations because of Katrina.
Life is certainly better without the emotional high and low of really being invested in being a Saint’s fan but, just like when you discover Santa Claus isn’t real, Christmas and fall just aren’t the same.
I was a fool, but a happy fool. I am a little jealous of the folks who can’t see what I see.
Good to see you post again. Every time I hear you on the radio, I think about Big Woodrow’s and the fun times.
The world has moved on.
Cheers and happy new year.

Hey Gumbeau! good to hear from you.
Woodrow's is a great memory, and so is all my Saints Fandom. I believe XLIV was totally real, just like all the losing we endured. I sat above Gleason's Block in the Terrace & I could feel the Curse go up through the Roof.

The NFL diluted itself 20 ways, but I was done, when all the kaepernick sh** started again. Drew's hostage situation was the last straw.
Its not a boycott. I dont expect a call from Goodell. I just lost interest. I'm certainly not giving money to people who hate.

But it was fantastic being a part of such a huge Fellowship. For a time, the only color that mattered was your jersey. I miss the black and gold caravan
I drove in from Hou to NOLA, and you know, honestly, it was even more exciting, during the losing days, to run into another person wearing Saints gear, somewhere like Shreveport. My biz card still has a gold Fleur.

I love Louisiana, love New Orleans, and my Louisiana/NOLA/WhoDat friends.
We still have our annual Hou-Dat Boil-- you're invited.
And I have no objection to joining the old gang and catching a game, just to enjoy the fellowship again.

Honestly, it just hasnt crossed my mind a lot, because my biz is booming, and I have no clue, when the Saints play, or who they play anymore. - says guy who used to plan his LIFE around the New Orleans Saints season schedule.

Rugby Saint II · 01-02-2022, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by gumbeau

Hey Skymike,

I kinda miss the old days back when I believed the NFL was an actual sport, mostly for the good times shared with friends.

Sitting in the stands in the Superdome, I knew my NFL fandom was over within moments of the infamous no-call.

My family, season ticket holders for decades, hasn’t attended a game since. Some still watch, although with a lot less enthusiasm. My only connection to the NFL is to pay enough attention to discuss the Saints with my mother, who isn’t giving up on her 55 years of Saints quite yet.

This year has only fortified the impression that the NFL seeks to influence games while maintaining the plausible deniability of “incompetent” referees.

Unfortunately, I now don’t believe Superbowl XLIV was real either. The Saints were brief benefactors of the NFL machinations because of Katrina.

Life is certainly better without the emotional high and low of really being invested in being a Saint’s fan but, just like when you discover Santa Claus isn’t real, Christmas and fall just aren’t the same.

I was a fool, but a happy fool. I am a little jealous of the folks who can’t see what I see.

Good to see you post again. Every time I hear you on the radio, I think about Big Woodrow’s and the fun times.

The world has moved on.

Cheers and happy new year.

I know just what you mean about football not being a sport anymore and how it took away the enthusiasm from wondering how the games would it end. Now the NFL is "entertainment" with a parallel to wrestling. It's fun to watch but the game is choreographed toward a predetermined conclusion.

What gets me is that gambling became legal after it was introduced as entertainment not sports. What people bet on a game where the refs can't make the correct call and it often changes the outcomes of the games? Not me. SMH

FinSaint · 12-31-2021, 01:27 AM

I guess Ruiz is the new whipping boy now that Peat is on a long time IR and Daveport is performing like a 1st rounder.

mapcow · 12-31-2021, 09:30 AM

here is one for that Guido dude....

"Not long after a report emerged regardings teams currently vetted by Wilson as potential trade destinations, the quarterback spoke out to consider the scenario as no more than theoretical, according to Broncos Wire. Among those names were the New Orleans Saints, Denver Broncos and New York Giants."

from this article:

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/russe...ks-next-season

hitta · 01-02-2022, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by Sinner

The whole mess, Brees retiring, injuries, Blovid 19 mindf*ck, Salary Cap, etc., and here we are. It's ok to be depressed, angry. Actually, it is necessary for a Fan to go through this when everything goes pear-shaped. And when I say that this is the UGLIEST in our History, of course y'all gonna talk about the seventies and eighties - but that doesn't make this sting any less. It's UGLY. PERIOD. We did not prepare for this at many levels, and "rebuilding" is looking ugly too. So yeah, gotta get up and go to work tomorrow and hope that it might be less embarrassing next week. Right? Most importantly, WE FANS best not troll on and fight with each other, while Millionaires get paid. We got a lotta Heart. WHO DAT!

Fans don't deserve better. Period. TBH the coaching staff has pulled this season out of their ass. If you give most coaching staffs this roster, they are swinging for the top pick in the draft. Somehow, we are 7-8 and still in contention. We also have some greatly building pieces going forward. If we can keep the defense intact, we can fix the offense in the offseason. I don't know who the QB of the future is(I personally like Trevor Siemian a whole lot), but our first priority is skill position players. Second priority is shoring up our porous line that has been decimated by injuries. Maybe get a TE in there somewhere. We get those pieces, not even thinking about the QB, and we are competing for a SB. We have to do some long thinking and evaluation about the QB position, because that will determine if we can get to our goal and hoist the lombardy after we take care of the above mentioned issues. I personally like Trevor Siemian. I think Hill could be good too. I think Book has potential but he's waaaay too raw and it could be several years before it's ready for him to see the field. Winston played ok before injury, but I felt he lacked something. I feel like our whole fan base is down in the dumps, but all I see is a path to something great, especially with that defense. We had a down year, so what. To win in the NFL requires slow progression towards the goal and smart timely moves. Things may seem like we are down, but we are heading up. We have a great defense and a great offensive coach. That's a recipe to balance things out really quickly.

12-29-2021, 09:03 AM	#1
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12-29-2021, 09:12 AM	#2
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12-30-2021, 10:00 AM	#3
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,544	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. Did you know? Just to remind everyone that the NFL has defined itself in court as a Sports Entertainment Business. It's amazing that a bunch of Supposedly Grown Ass Men have their lives RULED by something they have absolutely ZERO control over! Something that isn't even "REAL" it's all a show!! Sports Entertainment Business remember? You guys get together and watch Ole Yeller over and over and over and over and over yet still cry like Tommy Kirk when Ole Yeller gets put down? SmashMouth, gumbeau, skymike and 2 others like this.
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01-02-2022, 05:41 AM	#4
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. Originally Posted by vpheughan Did you know? Just to remind everyone that the NFL has defined itself in court as a Sports Entertainment Business. It has a "Self Employed Models" ring to it, doesnt it? Very glad to not be subjecting myself & my mental state to the decisions of these buffoons. Its been above 80 degrees for about 2 weeks on the Gulf Coast, your tagline "Lets Go Guido!" LOL SmashMouth and gumbeau like this.

01-02-2022, 06:15 AM	#5
gumbeau Where Y'at? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 519	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. Originally Posted by skymike It has a "Self Employed Models" ring to it, doesnt it? Very glad to not be subjecting myself & my mental state to the decisions of these buffoons. Its been above 80 degrees for about 2 weeks on the Gulf Coast, your tagline "Lets Go Guido!" LOL Hey Skymike, I kinda miss the old days back when I believed the NFL was an actual sport, mostly for the good times shared with friends. Sitting in the stands in the Superdome, I knew my NFL fandom was over within moments of the infamous no-call. My family, season ticket holders for decades, hasn’t attended a game since. Some still watch, although with a lot less enthusiasm. My only connection to the NFL is to pay enough attention to discuss the Saints with my mother, who isn’t giving up on her 55 years of Saints quite yet. This year has only fortified the impression that the NFL seeks to influence games while maintaining the plausible deniability of “incompetent” referees. Unfortunately, I now don’t believe Superbowl XLIV was real either. The Saints were brief benefactors of the NFL machinations because of Katrina. Life is certainly better without the emotional high and low of really being invested in being a Saint’s fan but, just like when you discover Santa Claus isn’t real, Christmas and fall just aren’t the same. I was a fool, but a happy fool. I am a little jealous of the folks who can’t see what I see. Good to see you post again. Every time I hear you on the radio, I think about Big Woodrow’s and the fun times. The world has moved on. Cheers and happy new year. iceshack149, SmashMouth, skymike and 1 others like this.

01-02-2022, 07:50 AM	#6
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. Originally Posted by gumbeau Hey Skymike, I kinda miss the old days back when I believed the NFL was an actual sport, mostly for the good times shared with friends. Sitting in the stands in the Superdome, I knew my NFL fandom was over within moments of the infamous no-call. My family, season ticket holders for decades, hasn’t attended a game since. Some still watch, although with a lot less enthusiasm. My only connection to the NFL is to pay enough attention to discuss the Saints with my mother, who isn’t giving up on her 55 years of Saints quite yet. This year has only fortified the impression that the NFL seeks to influence games while maintaining the plausible deniability of “incompetent” referees. Unfortunately, I now don’t believe Superbowl XLIV was real either. The Saints were brief benefactors of the NFL machinations because of Katrina. Life is certainly better without the emotional high and low of really being invested in being a Saint’s fan but, just like when you discover Santa Claus isn’t real, Christmas and fall just aren’t the same. I was a fool, but a happy fool. I am a little jealous of the folks who can’t see what I see. Good to see you post again. Every time I hear you on the radio, I think about Big Woodrow’s and the fun times. The world has moved on. Cheers and happy new year. Hey Gumbeau! good to hear from you. Woodrow's is a great memory, and so is all my Saints Fandom. I believe XLIV was totally real, just like all the losing we endured. I sat above Gleason's Block in the Terrace & I could feel the Curse go up through the Roof. The NFL diluted itself 20 ways, but I was done, when all the kaepernick sh** started again. Drew's hostage situation was the last straw. Its not a boycott. I dont expect a call from Goodell. I just lost interest. I'm certainly not giving money to people who hate. But it was fantastic being a part of such a huge Fellowship. For a time, the only color that mattered was your jersey. I miss the black and gold caravan I drove in from Hou to NOLA, and you know, honestly, it was even more exciting, during the losing days, to run into another person wearing Saints gear, somewhere like Shreveport. My biz card still has a gold Fleur. I love Louisiana, love New Orleans, and my Louisiana/NOLA/WhoDat friends. We still have our annual Hou-Dat Boil-- you're invited. And I have no objection to joining the old gang and catching a game, just to enjoy the fellowship again. Honestly, it just hasnt crossed my mind a lot, because my biz is booming, and I have no clue, when the Saints play, or who they play anymore. - says guy who used to plan his LIFE around the New Orleans Saints season schedule. iceshack149 likes this.

01-02-2022, 12:49 PM	#7
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,133	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. Originally Posted by gumbeau Hey Skymike, I kinda miss the old days back when I believed the NFL was an actual sport, mostly for the good times shared with friends. Sitting in the stands in the Superdome, I knew my NFL fandom was over within moments of the infamous no-call. My family, season ticket holders for decades, hasn’t attended a game since. Some still watch, although with a lot less enthusiasm. My only connection to the NFL is to pay enough attention to discuss the Saints with my mother, who isn’t giving up on her 55 years of Saints quite yet. This year has only fortified the impression that the NFL seeks to influence games while maintaining the plausible deniability of “incompetent” referees. Unfortunately, I now don’t believe Superbowl XLIV was real either. The Saints were brief benefactors of the NFL machinations because of Katrina. Life is certainly better without the emotional high and low of really being invested in being a Saint’s fan but, just like when you discover Santa Claus isn’t real, Christmas and fall just aren’t the same. I was a fool, but a happy fool. I am a little jealous of the folks who can’t see what I see. Good to see you post again. Every time I hear you on the radio, I think about Big Woodrow’s and the fun times. The world has moved on. Cheers and happy new year. I know just what you mean about football not being a sport anymore and how it took away the enthusiasm from wondering how the games would it end. Now the NFL is "entertainment" with a parallel to wrestling. It's fun to watch but the game is choreographed toward a predetermined conclusion. What gets me is that gambling became legal after it was introduced as entertainment not sports. What people bet on a game where the refs can't make the correct call and it often changes the outcomes of the games? Not me. SMH jnormand, skymike and Boston Saint like this.

12-31-2021, 01:27 AM	#8
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. I guess Ruiz is the new whipping boy now that Peat is on a long time IR and Daveport is performing like a 1st rounder. leilung and AsylumGuido like this.

12-31-2021, 09:30 AM	#9
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,818	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. here is one for that Guido dude.... "Not long after a report emerged regardings teams currently vetted by Wilson as potential trade destinations, the quarterback spoke out to consider the scenario as no more than theoretical, according to Broncos Wire. Among those names were the New Orleans Saints, Denver Broncos and New York Giants." from this article: https://www.foxnews.com/sports/russe...ks-next-season
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01-02-2022, 09:36 AM	#10
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,332	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. Originally Posted by Sinner The whole mess, Brees retiring, injuries, Blovid 19 mindf*ck, Salary Cap, etc., and here we are. It's ok to be depressed, angry. Actually, it is necessary for a Fan to go through this when everything goes pear-shaped. And when I say that this is the UGLIEST in our History, of course y'all gonna talk about the seventies and eighties - but that doesn't make this sting any less. It's UGLY. PERIOD. We did not prepare for this at many levels, and "rebuilding" is looking ugly too. So yeah, gotta get up and go to work tomorrow and hope that it might be less embarrassing next week. Right? Most importantly, WE FANS best not troll on and fight with each other, while Millionaires get paid. We got a lotta Heart. WHO DAT! Fans don't deserve better. Period. TBH the coaching staff has pulled this season out of their ass. If you give most coaching staffs this roster, they are swinging for the top pick in the draft. Somehow, we are 7-8 and still in contention. We also have some greatly building pieces going forward. If we can keep the defense intact, we can fix the offense in the offseason. I don't know who the QB of the future is(I personally like Trevor Siemian a whole lot), but our first priority is skill position players. Second priority is shoring up our porous line that has been decimated by injuries. Maybe get a TE in there somewhere. We get those pieces, not even thinking about the QB, and we are competing for a SB. We have to do some long thinking and evaluation about the QB position, because that will determine if we can get to our goal and hoist the lombardy after we take care of the above mentioned issues. I personally like Trevor Siemian. I think Hill could be good too. I think Book has potential but he's waaaay too raw and it could be several years before it's ready for him to see the field. Winston played ok before injury, but I felt he lacked something. I feel like our whole fan base is down in the dumps, but all I see is a path to something great, especially with that defense. We had a down year, so what. To win in the NFL requires slow progression towards the goal and smart timely moves. Things may seem like we are down, but we are heading up. We have a great defense and a great offensive coach. That's a recipe to balance things out really quickly. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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