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jnormand 01-03-2022 09:50 AM

Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Bahahahaha! Kidding!

Rugby Saint II 01-03-2022 10:26 AM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Uhmmm........Ha Ha Ha......Hell no! :no:

K Major 01-03-2022 10:31 AM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
AB played in his last NFL game yesterday. I hope Antonio gets the mental help he needs long-term.

His situation is becoming bigger than football.

Boston Saint 01-03-2022 10:34 AM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 940589)
Bahahahaha! Kidding!

You got me bro! I clicked on here ready to go off on you. Well played.

Rugby Saint II 01-03-2022 10:36 AM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 940595)
AB played in his last NFL game yesterday. I hope Antonio gets the mental help he needs long-term.

His situation is becoming bigger than football.

He believes that he is bigger than football. The only thing that will fix that issue is time and hardships to learn from. If he gets the time he'll definitely be humbled by Karma.

Boston Saint 01-03-2022 10:38 AM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Crazy (although not surprising) thing is Nate Burleson (spelled wrong probably) was defending him on the NFL network this morning

hitta 01-03-2022 10:43 AM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Look, we either lose this week and dont' make the playoffs, win this week and don't get the help we need and don't make the playoffs, or win this week and get the help we need and make the playoffs. It's kind of too late imo to be looking for solutions. We aren't going to win the Super Bowl unless the most miraculous run by far in NFL history occurs. If we win, we'll have about a 65.5% chance of making the playoffs according to 538. This assumes the Rams and Cowboys give it their all next week, which I think they probably will.

I think the future is bright. As a fan if it ends right here, I'm not going to lose any sleep because I really like our setup for the future. It would just require one of the best offensive minds in the NFL to fix the offense. Our achilles heel, the defense, is set and ready to go. The offense is missing a few pieces that are hampering it badly. I think we can make our QBs work. WR and O-linemen should be no.1 priority. Throw a TE in their and we are set. I think it's going to be an interesting offseason and we're going to be competing for a chip next year.

jnormand 01-03-2022 10:51 AM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
The dude straight up quit mid game. The way I heard it was, he got benched. Got pissed off. Then quit. Lol.

What an idiot.

Boston Saint 01-03-2022 10:59 AM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Like Det Leppard and the Kurgan say...”It’s better to burn out than to fade
away!”.

vpheughan 01-03-2022 11:04 AM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 940602)
Crazy (although not surprising) thing is Nate Burleson (spelled wrong probably) was defending him on the NFL network this morning

He also in one of those "insider wink wink" nods to Chris Carter said:We been in WR rooms and know what goes on or something to that effect. Chris Carter responded that he knew a handful of AB stories that have not been brought to light..............

AsylumGuido 01-03-2022 11:05 AM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 940608)
The dude straight up quit mid game. The way I heard it was, he got benched. Got pissed off. Then quit. Lol.

What an idiot.

It was the opposite. He didn't get benched from what they are saying. He was told to take the field on multiple occasions and refused so Arians told him to "get out of here".

SaintFanInATLHELL 01-03-2022 11:08 AM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hitta (Post 940605)
This assumes the Rams and Cowboys give it their all next week, which I think they probably will.

The Cowgirls/Eagles game is no longer our concern. The Eagles are already in, and nothing about that game affects the Saints chances.

It's simple now: Saints win/Niners loss gets us in.

The Rams have everything to play for. They can win the West with a win. They can potentially win the #2 seed with a win. They should be all in Sunday afternoon.

SFIAH

RailBoss 01-03-2022 11:17 AM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
As they say there are three sides to every story;
You got AB's side then there is Coach Colonel Sanders side than there is the truth.
However in this case AB's track record isn't so good. I'm sure Mike Tomlin isn't surprised.

neugey 01-03-2022 11:33 AM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
If we sign AB, it's knowing that there's a possibility he could leave the field at any time absolutely bare from the waist down.

Boston Saint 01-03-2022 12:28 PM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 940621)
If we sign AB, it's knowing that there's a possibility he could leave the field at any time absolutely bare from the waist down.

I thought streaking was illegal at NFL games.

skymike 01-03-2022 12:32 PM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 940629)
I thought streaking was illegal at NFL games.

Its legal, if you are "vaccinated."

skymike 01-03-2022 12:38 PM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 940629)
I thought streaking was illegal at NFL games.

Its legal, if you are "vaccinated."

lee909 01-03-2022 01:06 PM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
His behaviour has gone even more erratic since them hits in the Bengals games,especially the Burfict hit to the head.

RailBoss 01-03-2022 01:07 PM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 940621)
If we sign AB, it's knowing that there's a possibility he could leave the field at any time absolutely bare from the waist down.

It would be good for AB to pull that stunt in the Dome a lot less chilly.

MatthewT 01-03-2022 03:42 PM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Don't give Mickey Loomis any ideas, he may sign AB to a 5 year deal with about 40 mil guaranteed.

saintfan 01-03-2022 03:54 PM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 940644)
Don't give Mickey Loomis any ideas, he may sign AB to a 5 year deal with about 40 mil guaranteed.

:shock:

Bah :lolup: hahaha

:banana: :banana:

BakoSaint 01-03-2022 05:00 PM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
At a veteran minimum type deal, I say we SHOULD sign Antonio Brown. Yes, he is bat crap crazy. But our receivers are so horrible that its worth it. If I was hiring a lifeguard, first thing I would ask is can they swim, then second are they reliable. Antonio Brown ain't reliable, but we got guy who cant who swim jumping into the pool. A guy who can only be available 50% of games due to mental issues but can do the job when he is available is a good addition at our severe level of disfunction.

I don't see how an athlete taking their shirt off is the end of the world. In many sports, athletes compete without shirts. Like so what. He was unavailable due to a mental illness temper tantrum thing. Ok yeah. If a musician walks off the stage or cancels for one concert and is probably bipolar, can they never have another concert, or do we just maybe take that into account and check the refund policy?

Calvin Ridley is unavailable all year for mental issues. Aaron Rodgers tried to leave football to host a game show and lied about his vaccine status and is the favorite for MVP. Antonio Brown did not just commit some kind of felony, he had a mental breakdown in one game.

Even Antonio Brown's cautionary tale game this week, he got 26 yards before leaving, good to tie our #2 receiver for the week playing a full game. I had Antonio Brown in my fantasy football league championship and it turned out fine, because my opponent had Hollywood Brown, who scored less. Antonio Brown's 545 yards on the season are good for essentially tied for #2 among our wide receivers for the season, despite his missing so many games. Antonio Brown has 3 100-yard receiving games this season. As far as I can find, our wide receivers only have 1 this year. I am not sure if they have 3 in their combined careers.

We won a Super Bowl with Darren Sharper. What Sharper did is a lot worse than tossing a jersey and waving. I don't feel our receivers have played well enough or are talented enough for their jobs to be secure just because they are better at punching a clock than the alternative. Crazy things can happen in the playoffs and if we have one good receiver, the odds are a lot better for those things to happen.

Also Antonio Brown looked like he was in good shape when he took his shirt off. He puts in the time practicing. If this were a donut eating championship and Andrus Peat took his shirt off, you would look at his stomach and say that guy has been practicing, lets get him some counseling but lets keep him around, because he will win us some donut eating championships. Andrus Peat isn't crazy, but the Saints also aren't competing in donut eating championships, so Antonio Brown could probably be more valuable than Peat.

AsylumGuido 01-03-2022 05:53 PM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 940647)
At a veteran minimum type deal, I say we SHOULD sign Antonio Brown. Yes, he is bat crap crazy. But our receivers are so horrible that its worth it. If I was hiring a lifeguard, first thing I would ask is can they swim, then second are they reliable. Antonio Brown ain't reliable, but we got guy who cant who swim jumping into the pool. A guy who can only be available 50% of games due to mental issues but can do the job when he is available is a good addition at our severe level of disfunction.

I don't see how an athlete taking their shirt off is the end of the world. In many sports, athletes compete without shirts. Like so what. He was unavailable due to a mental illness temper tantrum thing. Ok yeah. If a musician walks off the stage or cancels for one concert and is probably bipolar, can they never have another concert, or do we just maybe take that into account and check the refund policy?

Calvin Ridley is unavailable all year for mental issues. Aaron Rodgers tried to leave football to host a game show and lied about his vaccine status and is the favorite for MVP. Antonio Brown did not just commit some kind of felony, he had a mental breakdown in one game.

Even Antonio Brown's cautionary tale game this week, he got 26 yards before leaving, good to tie our #2 receiver for the week playing a full game. I had Antonio Brown in my fantasy football league championship and it turned out fine, because my opponent had Hollywood Brown, who scored less. Antonio Brown's 545 yards on the season are good for essentially tied for #2 among our wide receivers for the season, despite his missing so many games. Antonio Brown has 3 100-yard receiving games this season. As far as I can find, our wide receivers only have 1 this year. I am not sure if they have 3 in their combined careers.

We won a Super Bowl with Darren Sharper. What Sharper did is a lot worse than tossing a jersey and waving. I don't feel our receivers have played well enough or are talented enough for their jobs to be secure just because they are better at punching a clock than the alternative. Crazy things can happen in the playoffs and if we have one good receiver, the odds are a lot better for those things to happen.

Also Antonio Brown looked like he was in good shape when he took his shirt off. He puts in the time practicing. If this were a donut eating championship and Andrus Peat took his shirt off, you would look at his stomach and say that guy has been practicing, lets get him some counseling but lets keep him around, because he will win us some donut eating championships. Andrus Peat isn't crazy, but the Saints also aren't competing in donut eating championships, so Antonio Brown could probably be more valuable than Peat.

He quit on his teammates mid-game. Nuff said. He just ended his NFL career.

Boston Saint 01-03-2022 05:59 PM

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Sorry to hijack the AB thread...but I’m in a family only fantasy league and my 88 year old pop wins over my brother if Pittsburgh’s RB gets 14 points !

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

RailBoss 01-03-2022 06:55 PM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Bako brings up a lot of solid points but history tells us that Coach isn't known for gambling on troubled players.
He did sign Shockey and was able to get 100 pct from him. Also currently he did put his bid in for Odell which was understandable.
However desperate times call for desperate measures so who knows if the AB saga blows through New Orleans.

saintfan 01-03-2022 07:12 PM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Lets reach out. Put him on a game by game contract. How could we afford this you ask?

We cut Guido - his best stat is his ego.

iceshack149 01-03-2022 07:15 PM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
No way. Brown is a clown. Remember last year when the Saints called him in for a tryout and he brought his camera crew?
I'd hate to see the Saints make a Faustian deal to try to do well in the playoffs by signing Antonio Brown. And I think the man needs some serious councelling.

Boston Saint 01-03-2022 07:16 PM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Neither Antonio nor his agent is gonna let him sign for a vet minimum IMO.

AsylumGuido 01-03-2022 07:33 PM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Both Randy Moss and Booger McFarland said that Brown has played his last game in the NFL. They said that teammates can look past what takes place away from the field, but what happens in that "three hour period" is what matters. They both said that Brown quit on his "brothers" during that period and that will not be forgiven.

K Major 01-03-2022 07:37 PM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
AB is done.

Steelers, Patriots, Oakland & Tampa all gave him chances.

No team will call. Ever again.

WhoDat!656 01-03-2022 08:23 PM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 940589)
Bahahahaha! Kidding!


rezburna 01-03-2022 10:25 PM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
I’d still sign him. Vet minimum. 1 year. Incentives attached.

RailBoss 01-03-2022 11:01 PM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 940663)
AB is done.

Steelers, Patriots, Oakland & Tampa all gave him chances.

No team will call. Ever again.

I would be surprised if another NFL team would take the risk with him.

RailBoss 01-03-2022 11:02 PM

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Controversies; Wiki

During and before the 2018 season, Brown was embroiled in numerous incidents in addition to causing tension within the Steelers organization. This included tossing furniture out of his 14th-floor apartment window in April, nearly hitting a 22-month-old child on the patio below,[267] and getting cited for speeding in excess of 100 mph along a suburban Pittsburgh highway.[268] Brown was later sued for the April incident,[269] and reached a settlement with the family of the child in April 2019.[270] In February 2019, a judge ruled him guilty of reckless driving in the speeding incident, and Brown received a fine.[271]

On September 10, 2019, Brown's former trainer, Britney Taylor, filed a lawsuit alleging he sexually assaulted her on three occasions. She claimed that he exposed himself to her, ejaculated on her back, and raped her. Brown and his legal team denied the allegations.[272][273] On September 18, the Allegheny county district attorney's office announced Brown would not be prosecuted because Taylor's accusations were outside of the statute of limitations. The civil suit continued.[274] On September 16, a second woman accused him of sexual misconduct. Separately, Victor Prisk, a Pittsburgh-based doctor, who Brown worked with while with the Steelers, also sued Brown for $11,500 in unpaid fees.[275] A settlement between Brown and Taylor was agreed upon in April 2021.[276]

On January 13, 2020, following several domestic incidents in which police were called to Brown's home in Hollywood, Florida, the Hollywood Police Department stated they no longer want Brown to be associated with their youth league (PAL). The Hollywood police department returned a check from Brown and issued a trespass order preventing him from being involved with their youth league while saying in a statement, "We do not want him to continue to affect our youth, or influence them in a negative way."[277] Days later on January 21, it was reported that Brown and an accomplice had attacked a moving truck driver at the home. Glenn Holt, working as Brown's trainer was arrested, while a warrant for Brown's arrest was issued a day later with a felony charge of battery and burglary.[278] He turned himself in a night later on January 23.[279] Brown was officially charged with felony burglary of a vehicle, misdemeanor battery, and misdemeanor criminal mischief on March 20, 2020.[280] On June 12, 2020, Brown pleaded no contest to the felony battery and burglary charges and received two years of probation. He was also ordered to undergo 100 hours of community service, a 13-week anger management counseling program, and a psychological evaluation.[281]

BakoSaint 01-03-2022 11:18 PM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 940652)
He quit on his teammates mid-game. Nuff said. He just ended his NFL career.

One could argue that many of our current receivers quit on their teammates before the game ever started, like in college when they decided they didn't need to work hard enough to be drafted, and throughout their professional careers when they decided they didn't want to work hard enough to make the roster of any team without severe salary cap and injury problems. If Antonio Brown were to quit on his teammates in the middle of every single game for us, at least we might have a lead for the defense to hold at halftime. I would not guarantee Brown a cent, except the veteran minimum that essentially does not count against the cap if we sign another veteran to replace him. But I think if we cut Kenny Still or Trequan Smith and replaced them with Antonio Brown, the only thing better would be if Stills or Smith signed within the division, and we could have Tuttle blanket them in man coverage.

Maybe we could even sign Brown to a non-player contract. He could just be a special assistant so that our defensive backs can practice against an NFL caliber receiving talent when he wakes up on the right side of the bed. If he takes off his shirt and leaves in the middle of practice, at least they got some reps against a good receiver.

leilung 01-04-2022 09:42 AM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
I've said it once, and stand by my assessment:
CTE is a real thing. He ain't been right in the head since that hit by Vontaze Burfict!

Those of you thinking this is ego, bad attitude, etc. really haven't been paying attention. He needs psych help.

Boston Saint 01-04-2022 09:54 AM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
I may be in the minority opinion, and I am certainly not advocating for it. However I would be very, very surprised if we have seen the last of Antonio Brown. Just look at how a few teams were scrambling for WRs this season; OBJ is an example and it is working with the Rams.

I predict some team somewhere sometime will give him a chance. He still can play and he’s not in current legal trouble. His agent will get him another shot. I hope it’s not with the Saints...after all, a healthy Michael Thomas paired with a healthy Antonio Brown who has a gripe with Tampa Bay would be a terrible thing. 😝

K Major 01-04-2022 10:03 AM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leilung (Post 940686)
I've said it once, and stand by my assessment:
CTE is a real thing. He ain't been right in the head since that hit by Vontaze Burfict!

Those of you thinking this is ego, bad attitude, etc. really haven't been paying attention. He needs psych help.

Same.

Boston Saint 01-04-2022 11:10 AM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 940689)
Same.

No doubt you are correct. Not many people think it’s “right in the head” to strip off your gear on field. Most also agree there are consequences from repeated impacts to the head.

Boston Saint 01-04-2022 11:13 AM

Re: Antonio Brown - Should we?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leilung (Post 940686)
I've said it once, and stand by my assessment:
CTE is a real thing. He ain't been right in the head since that hit by Vontaze Burfict!

Those of you thinking this is ego, bad attitude, etc. really haven't been paying attention. He needs psych help.

When was that hit, do you recall? I know I could look it up, but you may know off the top of your head.


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