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iceshack149 01-13-2022 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 941716)
Other factors other than leadership, ability, and performance, perhaps?
Knowing you, you're certainly alluding to race but many here didn't like his behavior off the field a few years ago, which was pretty awful. I feel that he's matured the last couple of years and it appears that he's a leader in the Saints locker room. Also, I can't judge a man when I've been guilty of poor behavior in my past. Good for him for striving to improve his life in every facet.

It's my opinion that he's the Saints best option at QB next season. I hope that the team doesn't try to bring in Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson and the QB's in this draft don't impress me.

AsylumGuido 01-13-2022 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 941724)
Knowing you, you're certainly alluding to race but many here didn't like his behavior off the field a few years ago, which was pretty awful. I feel that he's matured the last couple of years and it appears that he's a leader in the Saints locker room. Also, I can't judge a man when I've been guilty of poor behavior in my past. Good for him for striving to improve his life in every facet.

It's my opinion that he's the Saints best option at QB next season. I hope that the team doesn't try to bring in Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson and the QB's in this draft don't impress me.
Wasn't alluding to anything specifically. I'm sure his distant past is involved as you pointed out, however. I just know several fans, as Rez addressed, don't seem to see what we see. I see that take all the time in the Saints Twitter following. It's baffling.

saintfan 01-13-2022 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 941725)
Wasn't alluding to anything specifically. I'm sure his distant past is involved as you pointed out, however. I just know several fans, as Rez addressed, don't seem to see what we see. I see that take all the time in the Saints Twitter following. It's baffling.
The why don't you elaborate on your bull**** statement? What factors "other than leadership" WERE you referring to little :censored:?

You're the white guy walking in to a black panthers meeting offering to help. In the real world (not the interweb on your puter) you could get really ****ed up for faking that kind of ****, and rightfully so.

You sick little race-baiting ****er...

:popcorn:

AsylumGuido 01-13-2022 10:45 AM
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Budsdrinker 01-13-2022 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 941661)
A lot of QB critiques here are based on a season where we had a garbage O-line and limited WR/TE help. I think we only saw Sean's Offensive vision against the dirty birds and both Taysom and Trevor looked very good in it when the line was at it's healthiest. I myself wouldn't be throwing anyone in the garbage can.
Finally some true facts.

Budsdrinker 01-13-2022 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 941673)
You might want to go back and check the final injury report for the first six weeks. Both Armstead and McCoy missed most of those games.
The QB missing the most significant players was Siemian. I'm open for using preseason for what it is intended and have QB competition again. I'm for giving
Jamesis another shot. He was looking good before the injury. Still had some indecision but was getting better. I'm sure coming off of injury he will sign a cap friendly contract. It is pretty much impossible to grade any QB's from 2021 season with the all the missing pieces for most of the season. Here's to a healthier 2022.

hitta 01-13-2022 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 941629)
Thing is Jameis was playing smart IMO and doing all asked of him. His TD/INT ratio was excellent. I'm not sure what the team will do of course, but I wouldn't hate it if we gave him another shot at it with a real team around him.
He wasn't getting pressured on every play like Hill and SIemian were. When we had a stable line, the offense still felt lackadaisical under Winston. When the line was a bit better towards the end of the season Hill just felt like he was more explosive in every aspect.

saintfan 01-13-2022 11:31 AM
Re: Season Wrapup
 
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Originally Posted by hitta (Post 941744)
He wasn't getting pressured on every play like Hill and SIemian were. When we had a stable line, the offense still felt lackadaisical under Winston. When the line was a bit better towards the end of the season Hill just felt like he was more explosive in every aspect.
That's true. But still our WRs just weren't getting open with any consistency.

It felt, to me, like we were about to open things up a little bit when Jameis got hurt. I love Taysom. I would support him as the starter, but I think Jameis is already where Hill would aspire to be, meaning reads, game management, etc.

Boston Saint 01-13-2022 11:52 AM
Re: Season Wrapup
 
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Originally Posted by hitta (Post 941744)
He wasn't getting pressured on every play like Hill and SIemian were. When we had a stable line, the offense still felt lackadaisical under Winston. When the line was a bit better towards the end of the season Hill just felt like he was more explosive in every aspect.
But even with the Indecision he had a very good touchdown and interception numbers, as well as team W-L record. Was he Brees?...No. Was he better than Hill?....I think so.

rezburna 01-13-2022 07:21 PM
Re: Season Wrapup
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 941716)
Other factors other than leadership, ability, and performance, perhaps?
I definitely think it’s personal feelings more than an assessment of his play. Jameis Winston is by and large a better QB than everybody on our roster. If I had to give him a Madden rating I’d say he’s an 85. Taysom Hill is like a 72 only because he can run. Trevor is about a 72 as well. Book…65.

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 941731)
The why don't you elaborate on your bull**** statement? What factors "other than leadership" WERE you referring to little :censored:?

You're the white guy walking in to a black panthers meeting offering to help. In the real world (not the interweb on your puter) you could get really ****ed up for faking that kind of ****, and rightfully so.

You sick little race-baiting ****er...

:popcorn:
Don’t be like that fam. Guido cool.


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