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Well, we're done. Strange season. Much for the coaching staff to be proud of. Same for the defense and the special teams.

We suck on offense.

Gonna be an interesting off season again...

:bng:

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we WON today... in Atlanta... Wait... What happened in Los Angeles? Great Spirit Guys and Gals. Y'all got a lotta heart.

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Absolutely brutal to win that game and then have the Rams choke. What a brutal season.

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To have so many things go against us this season and to have still been in contention up to the last game of the season is exceptional.

Should be bigger and better next season.

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I'm proud of this season. I think we have two potential starters in Hill and Siemian. I'm not really that high on Winston. We need some receivers and shore up the offensive line and we'll be right back on the throne in the NFC South. Sean Payton should get coach of the year even though he won't.

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That was an awful season to sit through… Anything and everything went wrong. Some great things came of it too though like Davenport reaching his full potential to put up 9 sacks and Paulson Adebo locking down that CB2 spot.

I don’t really know how to write the epitaph for the season. Let’s just bring back Jameis, re-sign Marcus Williams and try to get another starting WR and TE.

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I'd prefer Hill to Jameis. It's like Jameis accumulates stats, but we didn't get into the endzone or something. There was something I didn't like about our offense when Winston was behind center. I know there was a lot of problems on offense his year, but I feel like we can build around Hill. I think we'll stay a bit stagnant with Jameis. I don't trust him.

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Too bad Guido’s hypothetical scenario didn’t have the team working their butt’s off and still missing the playoffs.

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Guido is an idiot

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I’d not put that much money into retaining Williams. Just my opinion.

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We have a future QB with Winston hopefully returning. Siemian needs to be kicked to the curb and Taysom served his purpose keeping us alive. Definitely not starter material moving forward.

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Hopefully re sign Jameis, secure a better vet GUARD, WR (Free agency) and the go get another stud WR in the draft. At pick #17, a stud WILL be there.

If JW signs elsewhere, I’d have Jimmy G, Carr and maybe Marriota as Plan B.

I’m looking forward to seeing what moves are made this off season.

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James ain't going anywhere else... Rez assured us so. :doh:

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You're an idiot...

I'd like to see Jameis with some WRs who can play. Then again I'd like to see Hill with the same...and an oline that doesn't suck more than it doesn't. Hill has done a good job.

I'm interested for sure to see what happens at QB. It's got to be Winston's job at this red-hot moment tho...

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We really can't lose Marcus Williams. He's the backbone of the defense. He allows us to do what we do up front because he's so good on the back end. I wouldn't sell the farm for him but I definitely wouldn't be afraid to pay him. There have been so many times where we've spent a tremendous amount of money on free agents coming in, expected so much out of them, and they bust so hard. We know Marcus Williams isn't going to fail us and that he fits with what we do.

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We have some challenges on offense. Defense will keep this team in the mix. Have to pay Marcus. HAVE to.

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We played a very nice game today. The flurry of turnovers even reminded me of our Super Bowl season.

But ultimately, Ramchoke mattered more than Ramcyzk

😢

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He ain't the only one... CJG Ceedy Deuce among others ...

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We have to sign one of the Williams…if we can’t get Marcus then we have to resign PJ. I hope we can get both back and save some money by letting Jenkins go.

Everyone forgets that Jameis played with the same players as Hill and was flat out the better QB. Our offense is better with Hill playing his Swiss Army knife role.

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I wish to say, as a life long/ franchise Long fan I am as proud of this team than any I can remember, including 09. The closest rivals would be (of course) ‘09, ‘06, ‘00, ‘91, and Oh god yes (was it?) ‘79 when we finally made it to 500! This team just kept slugging it out over unbelievable circumstances yet we still hovered round 500 all year, and made it over the 500 mark. (This is the first year I ever remember with an odd number of games, am i wrong?) I remember when 500 was a feat! Well done Saints! See you next year. Saints 17-0 in ‘23!

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I remember a few years back when our offense was so deadly that we only needed and adequate defense to win. Now the tables have turned and we have a great defense we just need an offense who can put 22-25 points per game up. We were 9-3 this year with Jameis or Taysom starting and that’s with a banged up offensive line and no number 1 on the outside. Give me Jameis on the cheap and keep my defense together, fix my guard position and draft me a 1 on the outside and this team can get back to the dance. And as a side note do not let DA leave

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Overall, I liked the effort from the coaching staff. If not the best,had to be one of the best coaching jobs in the nfl this year. Need to improve the O line, dump every TE and start from scratch, keep Ingram if possible, defense was tough once again. Maybe shore up d line, although thought they pulled their weight okay. Secondary could use some depth sign a couple our FA’s. LBers are good. Believe Winston deserves a shot. So, for me the future isn’t too bleak.

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I was not a Ruiz hater until I looked at some of the film. My GOD is he aweful! He's like a turnstile on a NYC Subway! EVERYONE gets through!

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No hate taken. He either gets better or he’ll be replaced.

He was definitely below average at guard.

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First we had the Hurricane, then Covid, losing a TON of coaches & went through FOUR quarterbacks yet we still managed to win 9 games?

IMO, we had one of the tougher schedules in the league.

Sean Payton did a hell of a job keeping this team together, and almost pulled off a playoff spot. All of these coaches & trainers hats off to you.

Perspective.

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Sean Payton and his entire staff should be Coaches of the Year. The players should all revel in the fact they accomplished way more than they should have and never quit.

Despite what many will say and write about this team, they're just a few pieces away from another title run.

Cap won't be an issue. Find our QB. Fix the O line. Draft well and we're off.

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Nine wins with all the injuries and Covid crap showed me that when relatively healthy this team is really good. Having a winning season without Drew shows me this organization is top notch. Most teams after losing a guy like Drew would be instant trash but we got great coaches and personnel to win with a few guys missing. If we didn’t lose a few key guys we’d might have home field. We were that good, if the team was close to whole. Sean Payton is coach of the year in my eyes. I know this team to roll next season.

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Come on now. Show a little class. Name calling seems like it's beneath you.

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It is, generally speaking. This ****er gets no quarter. He's been trolling here for far too long. I've watched him attack people relentlessly, makes things personal the minute he loses the debate, and taking shots across threads, trying to build coalitions and pit members against each other.

Oh and he LOVES to start **** with people then report them, all while sending them private messages trying to tell his target how much they have in common...at the same time trying to get management to address his 'victim' status. **** that guy.

We all like to discuss, but NOBODY wants to be attacked, which is what this little bastard enjoys doing. If you think differently, watch differently, this son of a ***** will attack you, and that's no fun.

Dude is a ****ed up little :censored:

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I would rather pay a few extra bucks for Marcus Williams than get PJ at a slight discount.

Also we weren't playing with the same players with Jameis, that's just wrong. Our O-line sustained substantial issues. The QBs had infinitely more pressure from the middle of the season onward than they did at the beginning. Jameis never has impressed me, and I feel like if he was the QB at the latter half of the year he would have been throwing INTs all over the place.

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Thing is Jameis was playing smart IMO and doing all asked of him. His TD/INT ratio was excellent. I'm not sure what the team will do of course, but I wouldn't hate it if we gave him another shot at it with a real team around him.

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I’m referring to off season and preseason. They both had the same players to practice with. Honestly, if Payton didn’t waste time trying to make Hill a starting QB, Winston would have gotten a lot more reps with the starters and in general. Winston flat out was the better QB. He had a 102.8 rating with 14 TD and 3 Ints? What else do you want from him? He played 7 full games and was still our leading passer.

I get it…you probably just don’t like him and that’s cool but don't try to minimize the impact that he had on the start of our season.

Everyone else gets a pass for what they have done but Winston. He had us at 5-2 and was taking care of the ball. Hill is not a QB that you want throwing the ball a lot. We have more proof of him being a turnover machine in this offense than we go with Winston.

Let me say that I do like Hill but in certain packages, not as a full time QB. He was bailed out on so many bad throws this year, especially when trying to push the ball vertically.

If they thing there is a better QB on the market that’s affordable then I hope they go for it but we do not have a starting QB under contract.

And for all those who think Book can take over, is not going to happen. He is average at best. The same issues he had in college will now be magnified in the NFL. He is basically a Chase Daniel clone and Chase was a better QB, arm talent wise.

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I agree on every point here. From beginning to end. Dead on.

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This is true.

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I was not a Winston fan but I think he did well enough and deserves another shot. It's obvious that he was doing all the right things before his injury. Too bad. I'd like to have seen more of him to see how his development was going after a full year. Payton is truly the QB whisperer.

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Better have a damn good back up plan at QB if Jameis signs elsewhere.

Marquee names WILL cost you picks and draft capital.

Based on my readings from Underhill & Duncan, JW & Marcus Williams are 1a, 1b priorities this off season.

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All facts.

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:dunce::flush::boohoo::rofl:

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I was really hoping Hill was going to ball out when he got his chance but the truth is unless Paytons game plan with him just about like the Ravens do with Jackson he shouldn't be behind center. Even if Payton does play Raven type ball Hill want hold up taking all those shots. The other thing I think want be good, Hill isn't as accurate as Jackson on any part of the field. I got to see if he was up for the task and as much as I hate to admit I was wrong, Hill at best is a career back-up at best and from watching his decision making, pocket presents and accuracy he would be a #3 or #4 at best. Any other team he wouldn't be considered a starting caliber qb. I do think he would make a really good TE with his physical play, and if we would need a hard yard he could be the man.

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A lot of QB critiques here are based on a season where we had a garbage O-line and limited WR/TE help. I think we only saw Sean's Offensive vision against the dirty birds and both Taysom and Trevor looked very good in it when the line was at it's healthiest. I myself wouldn't be throwing anyone in the garbage can.