2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

K Major · 02-05-2022, 01:44 PM

TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 81 - Nick Vannett, 89 - Dylan Soehner, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2022)

Time to step it up a notch at TE. I thought in limited snaps, Juwan played well.

The Vet Nick V was somewhat a disappointment for me in 2021.

jeanpierre · 02-05-2022, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Strief is somebody who I higly trust when it comes to the O-line. If he believes Ruiz can become what we need then i am inclined to believe that too.

Streif was drafted in the 7th round, almost an afterthought; Ruiz was drafted in the 1st round, players you'd expect to start and have an impact immediately...

Have seen too many instances where Ruiz failed mentally, physically (including getting Drew nearly killed); and I see no improvement from his first snap to present...

In Truth, you really need three (3) years to evaluate a draft pick; but we'd have to see one helluva leap in performance for Ruiz to validate his selection, especially a 1st rd pick...

jeanpierre · 02-05-2022, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Siemian has all the skills needed except leadership on the field. Teams have an easier time game planning for him than a motivational leader who will do anything to hep his team. He just doesn't have the "it" factor. Does Bortles? We'll find out at training camp.

Know some of the leaders on this time haven't rallied to the idea of Taysom as a starting QB, but there's no other player that energizes the offense as well as he has...

He just hasn't had enough reps with a full-strength offensive line or all the weapons available as others; and he's had the worst luck of late with injuries...

Sometimes it leaves me scratching my head, but I feel I see what Sean sees in Taysom being a starting QB, and the ceiling could be terrific; just gotta fix the offensive line...

And secure a better WRz option...

jeanpierre · 02-05-2022, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 81 - Nick Vannett, 89 - Dylan Soehner, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2022)

Time to step it up a notch at TE. I thought in limited snaps, Juwan played well.

The Vet Nick V was somewhat a disappointment for me in 2021.

Dylan Soehner is huge and until he was hurt, looked like a great No. 3 who would be ideal in jumbo packages as a blocker, but athletic, big enough to rip a red zone TD...

Adam Trautman development has been slower than I care, but there's definite improvement and at the very least, though his draft investment suggested otherwise, he'll be a solid TE...

Juwan Johnson has no value for me as a TE; in particular, saw several instances where there was a turnover and he made a p*ss-poor effort to tackle the defender....

Ethan Wolf is definitely a developmental project and just needs more snaps to get there but we can't afford as Trautman is the priority that needs development at TE...

There's some Day 2, 3 TE targets I really like that I think would offer more upside than Vannett (Ruckert, Ferguson, Kolar, Austin) and worth investing...

jeanpierre · 02-05-2022, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'd rather we move forward with Bortles ...

Guess it's just been a while since I've seen him play, but with the investment, he's likely that guy now...

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jeanpierre · 02-07-2022, 02:00 AM

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2022 New Orleans Saints - Offseason

OFFENSE

QB (3) 7 - Taysom Hill, 16 - Ian Book, 6 – Blake Bortles (RFC 2022)

RB (4) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 14 - Mark Ingram, 21 - Tony Jones Jr.

FB (1) 46 - Adam Prentice, 45 – Garrett Griffin (RFC 2022)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 17 - Kevin White (RFC 2022)

WR-S (2) 1 - Marquez Callaway, 80 - Kawaan Baker (RFC 2022), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (RFA 2022)

LT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Ethan Greenidge (RFA 2022)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 76 - Calvin Throckmorton

C (1) 78 - Erik McCoy, 68 - Cohl Cabral (RFC 2022)

RG (1) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 63 - Jerald Hawkins (RFC 2022)

RT (1) 74 - James Hurst, 67 - Landon Young

TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 81 - Nick Vannett, 89 - Dylan Soehner, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2022)

WR-Z (2) 11 - Deonte Harty (RFA 2022), 17 - Jalen McCleskey (RFC 2022), 18 - Easop Winston (RFC 2022)

DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 98 - Payton Turner, 96 - Carl Granderson (ERFA 2022)

NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle (RFA 2022), 95 - Albert Huggins (ERFA 2022), 77 - Jalen Dalton (ERFA 2022)

DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach (RFC 2022), 52 – Braxton Hoyett (RFC 2022)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon

WLB (2) 20 - Pete Werner, 53 - Zach Baun

MLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 50 - Andrew Dowell

SLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 59 - Sharif Finch (RFC 2022)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 25 - Ken Crawley, 37 – Dylan Maybin (RFC 2022)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 35 - KeiVarae Russell (RFC 2022)

FS (2) 48 - J.T. Gray

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins, 31 - Bryce Thompson (RFC 2022)

LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo, 21 - Bradley Roby, 36 - Jordan Miller (RFC 2022)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz, 6 - Brett Maher (RFA 2021)

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harty (RFA 2022)

90-man Roster Count - Total: 63; Offense: 31; Defense: 28; Kicking: 4

Reserve/Injured

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2022)

Restricted Free Agent (RFA 2022)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2022)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2022)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2022)

Waivers (Wv 2022)

Practice Squad (PS 2022)

Reserve/Injured (NFI), Reserve/Non-Football Injury (NFI), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP)

Reserve/Retired

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:

*OUT - Out/Left Game
*INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive
*PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad
*LP - Limited Practice
*DNP - Did Not Practice
*CP - Concussion Protocol
*DTR - Designated To Return

Note: RFAs and ERFAs are not technically under contract, but the Saints currently hold contractual rights to those players

K Major · 02-07-2022, 08:55 AM

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin

My guy had a phenomenal year.

IMO ALL-PRO worthy.

jeanpierre · 02-07-2022, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin

My guy had a phenomenal year.

IMO ALL-PRO worthy.

Agreed. Wasn't a better punter in the league...

02-05-2022, 01:44 PM	#171
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,018 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 81 - Nick Vannett, 89 - Dylan Soehner, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2022) Time to step it up a notch at TE. I thought in limited snaps, Juwan played well. The Vet Nick V was somewhat a disappointment for me in 2021. jeanpierre, halloween 65 and Rell&Gold like this.

02-05-2022, 02:23 PM	#172
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by Crusader Strief is somebody who I higly trust when it comes to the O-line. If he believes Ruiz can become what we need then i am inclined to believe that too. Streif was drafted in the 7th round, almost an afterthought; Ruiz was drafted in the 1st round, players you'd expect to start and have an impact immediately... Have seen too many instances where Ruiz failed mentally, physically (including getting Drew nearly killed); and I see no improvement from his first snap to present... In Truth, you really need three (3) years to evaluate a draft pick; but we'd have to see one helluva leap in performance for Ruiz to validate his selection, especially a 1st rd pick... Rell&Gold and K Major like this.

02-05-2022, 02:35 PM	#173
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Siemian has all the skills needed except leadership on the field. Teams have an easier time game planning for him than a motivational leader who will do anything to hep his team. He just doesn't have the "it" factor. Does Bortles? We'll find out at training camp. Know some of the leaders on this time haven't rallied to the idea of Taysom as a starting QB, but there's no other player that energizes the offense as well as he has... He just hasn't had enough reps with a full-strength offensive line or all the weapons available as others; and he's had the worst luck of late with injuries... Sometimes it leaves me scratching my head, but I feel I see what Sean sees in Taysom being a starting QB, and the ceiling could be terrific; just gotta fix the offensive line... And secure a better WRz option... saintfan and Rugby Saint II like this.
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02-05-2022, 02:35 PM	#174
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 81 - Nick Vannett, 89 - Dylan Soehner, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2022) Time to step it up a notch at TE. I thought in limited snaps, Juwan played well. The Vet Nick V was somewhat a disappointment for me in 2021. Dylan Soehner is huge and until he was hurt, looked like a great No. 3 who would be ideal in jumbo packages as a blocker, but athletic, big enough to rip a red zone TD... Adam Trautman development has been slower than I care, but there's definite improvement and at the very least, though his draft investment suggested otherwise, he'll be a solid TE... Juwan Johnson has no value for me as a TE; in particular, saw several instances where there was a turnover and he made a p*ss-poor effort to tackle the defender.... Ethan Wolf is definitely a developmental project and just needs more snaps to get there but we can't afford as Trautman is the priority that needs development at TE... There's some Day 2, 3 TE targets I really like that I think would offer more upside than Vannett (Ruckert, Ferguson, Kolar, Austin) and worth investing...
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02-05-2022, 02:38 PM	#175
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major I'd rather we move forward with Bortles ... Guess it's just been a while since I've seen him play, but with the investment, he's likely that guy now...

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02-07-2022, 02:00 AM	#178
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2022 New Orleans Saints - Offseason OFFENSE QB (3) 7 - Taysom Hill, 16 - Ian Book, 6 – Blake Bortles (RFC 2022) RB (4) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 14 - Mark Ingram, 21 - Tony Jones Jr. FB (1) 46 - Adam Prentice, 45 – Garrett Griffin (RFC 2022) WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 17 - Kevin White (RFC 2022) WR-S (2) 1 - Marquez Callaway, 80 - Kawaan Baker (RFC 2022), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (RFA 2022) LT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Ethan Greenidge (RFA 2022) LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 76 - Calvin Throckmorton C (1) 78 - Erik McCoy, 68 - Cohl Cabral (RFC 2022) RG (1) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 63 - Jerald Hawkins (RFC 2022) RT (1) 74 - James Hurst, 67 - Landon Young TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 81 - Nick Vannett, 89 - Dylan Soehner, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2022) WR-Z (2) *11 - Deonte Harty (RFA 2022), 17 - Jalen McCleskey (RFC 2022), 18 - Easop Winston (RFC 2022)* DEFENSE RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 98 - Payton Turner, 96 - Carl Granderson (ERFA 2022) NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle (RFA 2022), 95 - Albert Huggins (ERFA 2022), 77 - Jalen Dalton (ERFA 2022) DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach (RFC 2022), 52 – Braxton Hoyett (RFC 2022) LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon WLB (2) 20 - Pete Werner, 53 - Zach Baun MLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 50 - Andrew Dowell SLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 59 - Sharif Finch (RFC 2022) RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 25 - Ken Crawley, 37 – Dylan Maybin (RFC 2022) NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 35 - KeiVarae Russell (RFC 2022) FS (2) 48 - J.T. Gray SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins, 31 - Bryce Thompson (RFC 2022) LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo, 21 - Bradley Roby, 36 - Jordan Miller (RFC 2022) KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz, 6 - Brett Maher (RFA 2021) P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood RS () 11 - Deonte Harty (RFA 2022)* 90-man Roster Count - Total: 63; Offense: 31; Defense: 28; Kicking: 4 Reserve/Injured KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2022) Restricted Free Agent (RFA 2022) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2022) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2022) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2022) Waivers (Wv 2022) Practice Squad (PS 2022) Reserve/Injured (NFI), Reserve/Non-Football Injury (NFI), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP) Reserve/Retired Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner STATUS: OUT - Out/Left Game INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad LP - Limited Practice DNP - Did Not Practice CP - Concussion Protocol DTR - Designated To Return Note: RFAs* and ERFAs are not technically under contract, but the Saints currently hold contractual rights to those players**
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02-07-2022, 08:55 AM	#179
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,018 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin My guy had a phenomenal year. IMO ALL-PRO worthy. saintfan, jeanpierre and Rugby Saint II like this.

02-07-2022, 01:55 PM	#180
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin My guy had a phenomenal year. IMO ALL-PRO worthy. Agreed. Wasn't a better punter in the league...