2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

AsylumGuido · 01-20-2022, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

When Peat plays well he is a really good guard, big and pretty mobile, moves people. The problem is that he very seldom plays to that level.I've been pretty patient with my opinions on him, seeing how I thought he would develop some concistency and hopefully raise his floor closer to his ceiling.

Now however I think its time to go in another direction. Either trough FA or the draft. We need somebody who can consistantly open holes in the running game.

How much would it cost us to cut him?

Speaking of TEs, what I've seen from our group this year is a willingness to block. None of them have really wowed us in the passing game but I've seen good effort from the whole group when it comes to blocking, and chansing bodies downfield to hit.

Andrus Peat Spotrac

It would cost $13.8M in dead cap for 2022 with $1.65M 2022 savings pre-June 1st. Post June 1st - 2022 $4.6M/2023 $9.2M dead cap - $1.65M 2022 savings

K Major · 01-20-2022, 10:28 AM

Peat is going no place in 2022.

saintfan · 01-20-2022, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Peat is going no place in 2022.

Can Peat resurrect his image with Saints Nation? Inquiring minds want to know!

Rugby Saint II · 01-20-2022, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Well, I didn't call you a 5 year old. I asked if you were 5, because I was actually hoping your use of words were due to lack of maturity or a lapse in judgement.

The other alternative would be that they stem from hate, and I wish that isn't the case, because hate only breeds more hate.

My intention is not to defend another forum member or their actions - it is merely to encourage civility in the public discussions on this board.

I got tired of reading his personal attacks and eventually had to block him for some peace of mind. He has an agenda hoping that Guido will will quit. We all know that ain't happening. Yes. Guido can be a bit of an ass but he brings a lot more to the board than that. He is always sharing info from the internet and that is much more valuable to me than somebody's *****ing.

I liked what saints fan had to ay before he caused such discourse that it was either block him or do to him what he decided to do to Guido. I decided it would be better not to go after him. We have enough of that already!

Rugby Saint II · 01-20-2022, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Well, I didn't call you a 5 year old. I asked if you were 5, because I was actually hoping your use of words were due to lack of maturity or a lapse in judgement.

The other alternative would be that they stem from hate, and I wish that isn't the case, because hate only breeds more hate.

My intention is not to defend another forum member or their actions - it is merely to encourage civility in the public discussions on this board.

He is creating tremendous discourse among the members hare and I hope that Halo is taking notice. I eventually had to block him like he suggested. Personally, I hope he gets banned. He is trying to run Guido off but we all know that it ain't happening. At least Guido brings us solid info from the internet on a consistent basis.

And yes, he is a bitt of an ass but I can get by that since I understand the different personality types. Saintsfan is what we call "The Sherriff". That's Halo's job!

Edit: Double post. My apologies gentlemen.

saintfan · 01-20-2022, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Well, I didn't call you a 5 year old. I asked if you were 5, because I was actually hoping your use of words were due to lack of maturity or a lapse in judgement.

The other alternative would be that they stem from hate, and I wish that isn't the case, because hate only breeds more hate.

My intention is not to defend another forum member or their actions - it is merely to encourage civility in the public discussions on this board.

Want to know who speedo has reported? Want to know why? Want to see his history of provoking people then playing the victim? Want to see the list of members he tried to get banned for doing nothing more than having a view that didn't line up with his own? Want to know about speedo's personal attacks? Ask around. Lots of people have been speedo's victim here. Have you reached out to any of them to get yourself educated? Do you know people have left here because speedo wouldn't stop harassing them? Want their names? Want to see his history of race-baiting here? Not just one instance or two, but so many that he has a reputation for it. Want to see where I begged speedo to take that to the political forum where we allow a lot of leeway - stuff that doesn't fly in the football forum? Want to see how he rejected it? Maybe you don't care. I care.

Maybe you'd be interested in the exchange that began in 2018 where I very plainly told him to stop harassing people and how he deflected and went into full victim mode...then started attacking me? Want to see that thread? PM me and I'll be happy to enlighten you. What you don't know is that I've sent that idiot private messages on more than a few occasions. I tried reason. I tried diplomacy, and the more I tried the more he ramped up his attacks on me, purely because I told him to stop it.

Ask those who he has attacked about speedo's level of 'civility'. And then ask yourself if you should even have gotten involved at all, considering all the background you know nothing about.

What you are seeing now is the nuclear option. And what you won't see anymore is speedo attacking people here. You'll see me attacking him. Definitely. The aim is to get him to stop. speedo started the banning talk so he could be a victim - all I ever insisted he do was stop.

I knew going in this was going to upset some, and that some would perceive me as being mean to poor speedo because speedo is a professional victim. What you are responding to was not random. This is scorched Earth. It is necessary. So block me and move on. Sorry it has come to this. I won't stop 'til speedo stops.

I don't care if he's banned or not. I do care that he stop. He hasn't attacked anyone lately. Those attacks are being directed at me, by people like you who don't know what's really going on. I knew that would happen, and it's unfortunate, but that's the cost of doing business with people like speedo.
The needs of the many my friend...

AsylumGuido · 01-20-2022, 01:01 PM

James Winston And Taysom Hill Exceeded Expectations As New Orleans Saints QBs - YouTube

AsylumGuido · 01-20-2022, 01:03 PM

2021 was just a taste of the impact Deonte Harty can have for the Saints

Deonte Harty, who legally changed his last name from Harris recently, quietly had a wildly efficient season at wideout in 2021 with the New Orleans Saints.

Despite dealing with poor QB play for most of the year and sustaining a hiccup from a 3-game suspension for a DUI in Weeks 14-16, Harty managed to rack up 570 receiving yards and three TDs on the season.

But what is most impressive about his year has nothing to do with the counting stats – it’s how effective he was with a relatively small number of touches.

Out of 104 qualifying receivers in PFF’s database this season, he was in the top 10 of three major categories.

-10th in yards per reception (15.8)

-6th in yards after catch per reception (6.8)

-5th in yards per route run (2.69)

He also was fifth in overall PFF grade out of this group, with an 87.8 grade.

The most impressive stat out of those to me is the 2.69 yards per route run. The four names who were above him in this category in order were Antonio Brown, Davante Adams, Deebo Samuel and Cooper Kupp.

Read the rest here ...

Boston Saint · 01-20-2022, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I got tired of reading his personal attacks and eventually had to block him for some peace of mind. He has an agenda hoping that Guido will will quit. We all know that ain't happening. Yes. Guido can be a bit of an ass but he brings a lot more to the board than that. He is always sharing info from the internet and that is much more valuable to me than somebody's *****ing.

I liked what saints fan had to ay before he caused such discourse that it was either block him or do to him what he decided to do to Guido. I decided it would be better not to go after him. We have enough of that already!

i’m going to put my two cents in because, well why the hell not?

I’ve been a member now for a bit over a year. I feel I’ve got to know certain users tendencies and hopefully you guys have learned mine. Whatever Users have in their history that makes them react and do what they do is on them. I’m not a fan of the way Saintsfan tears into Guido sometimes. But there are a lot of things I don’t like about what Guido has said. In this world and can’t put myself in a judgmental place about a lot of things. I can understand if Guido wanted to block him.

From my experience Guido says he has me blocked as well. I guess I was too argumentative and harassed him. Other users here can judge if I did or not. That’s fine with me; my ego can take it. But I question his motives and point out the hypocrisy in this. He posted the other day that he loves a good debate. I guess that means with anyone besides Boston Saint. He still posts on threads I made. I’m not gonna block him for it.

He posts on the site as often as he can, and that’s good that he wants too. But his posts apparently don’t care about viewpoints that differ from his own and he points out topics that are controversial and apparently he is too egotistical to listen to certain other people’s thoughts, including mine.

I’ve not attacked him with name calling. I’ve always been civil. He posted something false about me, then denied doing so when I called him out. I guess that is why he blocked me.

I could go further, but no point. That’s my take on the integrity Guido has shown me so far anyway. I’ve always tried to be receptive.

AsylumGuido · 01-20-2022, 05:12 PM

01-20-2022, 09:56 AM	#81
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,173	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by Crusader When Peat plays well he is a really good guard, big and pretty mobile, moves people. The problem is that he very seldom plays to that level.I've been pretty patient with my opinions on him, seeing how I thought he would develop some concistency and hopefully raise his floor closer to his ceiling. Now however I think its time to go in another direction. Either trough FA or the draft. We need somebody who can consistantly open holes in the running game. How much would it cost us to cut him? Speaking of TEs, what I've seen from our group this year is a willingness to block. None of them have really wowed us in the passing game but I've seen good effort from the whole group when it comes to blocking, and chansing bodies downfield to hit. Andrus Peat Spotrac It would cost $13.8M in dead cap for 2022 with $1.65M 2022 savings pre-June 1st. Post June 1st - 2022 $4.6M/2023 $9.2M dead cap - $1.65M 2022 savings

01-20-2022, 10:28 AM	#82
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,618 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Peat is going no place in 2022. saintsfan1976 and AsylumGuido like this.

01-20-2022, 11:38 AM	#83
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major Peat is going no place in 2022. Can Peat resurrect his image with Saints Nation? Inquiring minds want to know! jnormand likes this.

01-20-2022, 11:52 AM	#84
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,044	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by FinSaint Well, I didn't call you a 5 year old. I asked if you were 5, because I was actually hoping your use of words were due to lack of maturity or a lapse in judgement. The other alternative would be that they stem from hate, and I wish that isn't the case, because hate only breeds more hate. My intention is not to defend another forum member or their actions - it is merely to encourage civility in the public discussions on this board. I got tired of reading his personal attacks and eventually had to block him for some peace of mind. He has an agenda hoping that Guido will will quit. We all know that ain't happening. Yes. Guido can be a bit of an ass but he brings a lot more to the board than that. He is always sharing info from the internet and that is much more valuable to me than somebody's *****ing. I liked what saints fan had to ay before he caused such discourse that it was either block him or do to him what he decided to do to Guido. I decided it would be better not to go after him. We have enough of that already!
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01-20-2022, 12:00 PM	#85
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,044	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by FinSaint Well, I didn't call you a 5 year old. I asked if you were 5, because I was actually hoping your use of words were due to lack of maturity or a lapse in judgement. The other alternative would be that they stem from hate, and I wish that isn't the case, because hate only breeds more hate. My intention is not to defend another forum member or their actions - it is merely to encourage civility in the public discussions on this board. He is creating tremendous discourse among the members hare and I hope that Halo is taking notice. I eventually had to block him like he suggested. Personally, I hope he gets banned. He is trying to run Guido off but we all know that it ain't happening. At least Guido brings us solid info from the internet on a consistent basis. And yes, he is a bitt of an ass but I can get by that since I understand the different personality types. Saintsfan is what we call "The Sherriff". That's Halo's job! Edit: Double post. My apologies gentlemen.
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01-20-2022, 12:56 PM	#86
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by FinSaint Well, I didn't call you a 5 year old. I asked if you were 5, because I was actually hoping your use of words were due to lack of maturity or a lapse in judgement. The other alternative would be that they stem from hate, and I wish that isn't the case, because hate only breeds more hate. My intention is not to defend another forum member or their actions - it is merely to encourage civility in the public discussions on this board. Want to know who speedo has reported? Want to know why? Want to see his history of provoking people then playing the victim? Want to see the list of members he tried to get banned for doing nothing more than having a view that didn't line up with his own? Want to know about speedo's personal attacks? Ask around. Lots of people have been speedo's victim here. Have you reached out to any of them to get yourself educated? Do you know people have left here because speedo wouldn't stop harassing them? Want their names? Want to see his history of race-baiting here? Not just one instance or two, but so many that he has a reputation for it. Want to see where I begged speedo to take that to the political forum where we allow a lot of leeway - stuff that doesn't fly in the football forum? Want to see how he rejected it? Maybe you don't care. I care. Maybe you'd be interested in the exchange that began in 2018 where I very plainly told him to stop harassing people and how he deflected and went into full victim mode...then started attacking me? Want to see that thread? PM me and I'll be happy to enlighten you. What you don't know is that I've sent that idiot private messages on more than a few occasions. I tried reason. I tried diplomacy, and the more I tried the more he ramped up his attacks on me, purely because I told him to stop it. Ask those who he has attacked about speedo's level of 'civility'. And then ask yourself if you should even have gotten involved at all, considering all the background you know nothing about. What you are seeing now is the nuclear option. And what you won't see anymore is speedo attacking people here. You'll see me attacking him. Definitely. The aim is to get him to stop. speedo started the banning talk so he could be a victim - all I ever insisted he do was stop. I knew going in this was going to upset some, and that some would perceive me as being mean to poor speedo because speedo is a professional victim. What you are responding to was not random. This is scorched Earth. It is necessary. So block me and move on. Sorry it has come to this. I won't stop 'til speedo stops. I don't care if he's banned or not. I do care that he stop. He hasn't attacked anyone lately. Those attacks are being directed at me, by people like you who don't know what's really going on. I knew that would happen, and it's unfortunate, but that's the cost of doing business with people like speedo. The needs of the many my friend... iceshack149 and K Major like this.
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01-20-2022, 01:03 PM	#88
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,173	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook 2021 was just a taste of the impact Deonte Harty can have for the Saints Deonte Harty, who legally changed his last name from Harris recently, quietly had a wildly efficient season at wideout in 2021 with the New Orleans Saints. Despite dealing with poor QB play for most of the year and sustaining a hiccup from a 3-game suspension for a DUI in Weeks 14-16, Harty managed to rack up 570 receiving yards and three TDs on the season. But what is most impressive about his year has nothing to do with the counting stats – it’s how effective he was with a relatively small number of touches. Out of 104 qualifying receivers in PFF’s database this season, he was in the top 10 of three major categories. -10th in yards per reception (15.8) -6th in yards after catch per reception (6.8) -5th in yards per route run (2.69) He also was fifth in overall PFF grade out of this group, with an 87.8 grade. The most impressive stat out of those to me is the 2.69 yards per route run. The four names who were above him in this category in order were Antonio Brown, Davante Adams, Deebo Samuel and Cooper Kupp. Read the rest here ... Crusader likes this.
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01-20-2022, 01:34 PM	#89
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I got tired of reading his personal attacks and eventually had to block him for some peace of mind. He has an agenda hoping that Guido will will quit. We all know that ain't happening. Yes. Guido can be a bit of an ass but he brings a lot more to the board than that. He is always sharing info from the internet and that is much more valuable to me than somebody's *****ing. I liked what saints fan had to ay before he caused such discourse that it was either block him or do to him what he decided to do to Guido. I decided it would be better not to go after him. We have enough of that already! i’m going to put my two cents in because, well why the hell not? I’ve been a member now for a bit over a year. I feel I’ve got to know certain users tendencies and hopefully you guys have learned mine. Whatever Users have in their history that makes them react and do what they do is on them. I’m not a fan of the way Saintsfan tears into Guido sometimes. But there are a lot of things I don’t like about what Guido has said. In this world and can’t put myself in a judgmental place about a lot of things. I can understand if Guido wanted to block him. From my experience Guido says he has me blocked as well. I guess I was too argumentative and harassed him. Other users here can judge if I did or not. That’s fine with me; my ego can take it. But I question his motives and point out the hypocrisy in this. He posted the other day that he loves a good debate. I guess that means with anyone besides Boston Saint. He still posts on threads I made. I’m not gonna block him for it. He posts on the site as often as he can, and that’s good that he wants too. But his posts apparently don’t care about viewpoints that differ from his own and he points out topics that are controversial and apparently he is too egotistical to listen to certain other people’s thoughts, including mine. I’ve not attacked him with name calling. I’ve always been civil. He posted something false about me, then denied doing so when I called him out. I guess that is why he blocked me. I could go further, but no point. That’s my take on the integrity Guido has shown me so far anyway. I’ve always tried to be receptive. iceshack149 and K Major like this.
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