Evidence of officiating bias against the Saints? - Triplett

K Major · 01-22-2022, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

Are we really writing Book off on that one start where he was running for his life the entire game when we had 20 starters out on Covid?

No, but if Ian continues to put in work, he can become a high level back up.

neugey · 01-22-2022, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Now here's some bias.

https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/...76603665915911

Maybe we can sign Novak Djokovic to play wide receiver?

AsylumGuido · 01-22-2022, 10:17 AM

ChrisXVI · 01-22-2022, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/statu...85578632863745

They’ll never let us get to the Super Bowl again as long as Payton is our coach.

MatthewT · 01-22-2022, 10:29 AM

Another good study would be to see the average amount of penalties for each opponent during each of the past 4 years. Example, if Atlanta in 2020 averages 3 penalties for their 2 Saints games, but 7 for all other games, that would seriously support the bias claim. Additionally, it would also be wise to look at the officiating crews to see if there is any pattern to that too.

AsylumGuido · 01-22-2022, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

They’ll never let us get to the Super Bowl again as long as Payton is our coach.

We'll likely never have a chance again without Payton. I honestly feel that we stand a better shot of winning another Lombardi a.) with Payton while overcoming any bias (contrived or real) than we would b.) without Payton on an unbiased, level playing field. Not to mention it would be FAR more satisfying.

In the 40 odd years prior to Payton's arrival in New Orleans I never truly felt like winning the championship was an achievable goal. Since he's been with us I see it as just that ... and achievable goal.

saintfan · 01-22-2022, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

We'll likely never have a chance again without Payton. I honestly feel that we stand a better shot of winning another Lombardi a.) with Payton while overcoming any bias (contrived or real) than we would b.) without Payton on an unbiased, level playing field. Not to mention it would be FAR more satisfying.

In the 40 odd years prior to Payton's arrival in New Orleans I never truly felt like winning the championship was an achievable goal. Since he's been with us I see it as just that ... and achievable goal.

Exactly how would one overcome 'contrived' bias?

Here's the translation: lots of people have been talking about bias in the NFL, and you have attacked all of them. Myself included. You defended the indefensible and attacked us all for stating what any idiot (cept you of course, because you're a special idiot) could see.

Now the data is in and you're wrong. Dead wrong, about a very obvious thing that was right before your eyes, and you STILL can't admit it (thus 'contrived') but you want in on the game cause that's what all the cool people are talking about. Bah hahaha.

Poor little speedo. You'll never get on NFL radio, and nothing you say will ever be taken seriously. Such is the life of a little man with no convictions, only ego...

gumbeau · 01-22-2022, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

They’ll never let us get to the Super Bowl again as long as Payton is our coach.

This is likely the absolute truth and a big part of the reason I only watch enough of the Saint to carry on conversations with my 80 year old mother during the season.

I think the NFL has been shading games to their liking for a long time.

Unfortunately, I have also come to the conclusion that the Saints lone Superbowl appearance was also aided by the NFL.

I can't really think only the bad stuff that happened to the Saints was due to NFL shenanigans.

Sucks but in the past three years I have come to realize that many of the things I naively believed just aren't true.

Football is very minor compared to the horrible things we, as a country, have done to our elderly and our youngest in the name of power and money.

neugey · 01-22-2022, 11:16 AM

We can win at all with Payton at the helm regardless of Roger's influence. If it was a challenge CSP felt he couldn't overcome then he wouldn't be here. It just will be a little harder for us than say ... the Steelers or the 49ers.

dizzle88 · 01-22-2022, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

They’ll never let us get to the Super Bowl again as long as Payton is our coach.

Agreed.

Minny missed tackle was one thing, that was a player mistake.
The no call was flat out robbery that the NFL knew they could screw us with.

If that had happened to Tom Brady and he shouted at the refs, he would have convinced them to throw a flag if one didn't already get thrown.

Honestly, just thinking about that moment, I wished Payton or one of the players would have purposely decked that line Judge and Bill Vinovich.

01-22-2022, 06:47 AM	#11
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Evidence of officiating bias against the Saints? - Triplett Originally Posted by SaintGnome Are we really writing Book off on that one start where he was running for his life the entire game when we had 20 starters out on Covid? No, but if Ian continues to put in work, he can become a high level back up.

01-22-2022, 08:08 AM	#12
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Evidence of officiating bias against the Saints? - Triplett Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Now here's some bias. https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/...76603665915911 Maybe we can sign Novak Djokovic to play wide receiver? AsylumGuido likes this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Evidence of officiating bias against the Saints? - Triplett Originally Posted by AsylumGuido https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/statu...85578632863745 They’ll never let us get to the Super Bowl again as long as Payton is our coach. Rugby Saint II likes this.

01-22-2022, 10:29 AM	#15
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Evidence of officiating bias against the Saints? - Triplett Another good study would be to see the average amount of penalties for each opponent during each of the past 4 years. Example, if Atlanta in 2020 averages 3 penalties for their 2 Saints games, but 7 for all other games, that would seriously support the bias claim. Additionally, it would also be wise to look at the officiating crews to see if there is any pattern to that too.

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01-22-2022, 10:33 AM	#16
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,214	Re: Evidence of officiating bias against the Saints? - Triplett Originally Posted by ChrisXVI They’ll never let us get to the Super Bowl again as long as Payton is our coach. We'll likely never have a chance again without Payton. I honestly feel that we stand a better shot of winning another Lombardi a.) with Payton while overcoming any bias (contrived or real) than we would b.) without Payton on an unbiased, level playing field. Not to mention it would be FAR more satisfying. In the 40 odd years prior to Payton's arrival in New Orleans I never truly felt like winning the championship was an achievable goal. Since he's been with us I see it as just that ... and achievable goal. ChrisXVI likes this.

01-22-2022, 11:06 AM	#17
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Evidence of officiating bias against the Saints? - Triplett Originally Posted by AsylumGuido We'll likely never have a chance again without Payton. I honestly feel that we stand a better shot of winning another Lombardi a.) with Payton while overcoming any bias (contrived or real) than we would b.) without Payton on an unbiased, level playing field. Not to mention it would be FAR more satisfying. In the 40 odd years prior to Payton's arrival in New Orleans I never truly felt like winning the championship was an achievable goal. Since he's been with us I see it as just that ... and achievable goal. Exactly how would one overcome 'contrived' bias? Here's the translation: lots of people have been talking about bias in the NFL, and you have attacked all of them. Myself included. You defended the indefensible and attacked us all for stating what any idiot (cept you of course, because you're a special idiot) could see. Now the data is in and you're wrong. Dead wrong, about a very obvious thing that was right before your eyes, and you STILL can't admit it (thus 'contrived') but you want in on the game cause that's what all the cool people are talking about. Bah hahaha. Poor little speedo. You'll never get on NFL radio, and nothing you say will ever be taken seriously. Such is the life of a little man with no convictions, only ego...
	C'mon Man...

01-22-2022, 11:08 AM	#18
gumbeau Where Y'at? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 519	Re: Evidence of officiating bias against the Saints? - Triplett Originally Posted by ChrisXVI They’ll never let us get to the Super Bowl again as long as Payton is our coach. This is likely the absolute truth and a big part of the reason I only watch enough of the Saint to carry on conversations with my 80 year old mother during the season. I think the NFL has been shading games to their liking for a long time. Unfortunately, I have also come to the conclusion that the Saints lone Superbowl appearance was also aided by the NFL. I can't really think only the bad stuff that happened to the Saints was due to NFL shenanigans. Sucks but in the past three years I have come to realize that many of the things I naively believed just aren't true. Football is very minor compared to the horrible things we, as a country, have done to our elderly and our youngest in the name of power and money.

01-22-2022, 11:16 AM	#19
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Evidence of officiating bias against the Saints? - Triplett We can win at all with Payton at the helm regardless of Roger's influence. If it was a challenge CSP felt he couldn't overcome then he wouldn't be here. It just will be a little harder for us than say ... the Steelers or the 49ers. jeanpierre likes this.
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01-22-2022, 11:46 AM	#20
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Evidence of officiating bias against the Saints? - Triplett Originally Posted by ChrisXVI They’ll never let us get to the Super Bowl again as long as Payton is our coach. Agreed. Minny missed tackle was one thing, that was a player mistake. The no call was flat out robbery that the NFL knew they could screw us with. If that had happened to Tom Brady and he shouted at the refs, he would have convinced them to throw a flag if one didn't already get thrown. Honestly, just thinking about that moment, I wished Payton or one of the players would have purposely decked that line Judge and Bill Vinovich.