Head Coach Search

FinSaint · 02-07-2022, 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by subguy

I have a great idea, lets hire the best candidate we interviewed

Would that be the best candidate overall or the best candidate for Sainst' particular situation?

vpheughan · 02-07-2022, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Would that be the best candidate overall or the best candidate for Sainst' particular situation?

Let's spit this hair yet again!! Which qualities make up "BEST" and who DEFINES "BEST"?

subguy · 02-07-2022, 08:04 AM

Whomever the Organization thinks will deliver results, regardless of external factors.

rezburna · 02-07-2022, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

The Egyptian empire enslaved the hebrews way before America came along. Barbary coast pirates of North Africa raided European settlements for white slaves in the 1500s. Black slavers captured Black slaves who were sold to Black slave owners here in the colonies. This is not to say racism was/is not
a part of North America’s history. It obviously is. However, Evidence exists that America did not invent slavery or racism. Dumping that baggage on any group today and saying they are responsible is unfair.

Originally Posted by subguy

Rez thought I was uncomfortable with talk of racism, nothing could be further from the point. I have learned through wisdom of years not to waste breathe on deaf ears.

Racism is about what is on your heart. No legislation, Rooney rule, bill or amendments will ever get rid of racism. If you have hate in your heart it is there and a law can't remove it.

Love America, there is no other country in the world that 14 % of the population can have such an impact.

To have someone who was a head coach claim racism, kinda has bad optics.

It is impossible to have a "logical" debate when the topic is emotional.

Not going to engage...emotion isn't a solution.

Anyway, back to sports...you poked the bear if you don't want to hear it, don't ask.

Originally Posted by halloween 65

The never owned a slave talking point goes hand in hand about the being "oppressed" talking point , every skin color has had it done to them throughout history dating back 9000 years ago.And to keep selling it over and over and over your probably right " it truly is no hope for the future of America" or many countries for that matter.

I respectfully disagree with the positions each of you has taken on the discussion, but your perspective is your perspective and I’m not here to try and change that. They’ve always said we live in two different Americas and the fact we can live in the same country and view it so differently and have such disproportionately different outcomes in mass is a testament to that notion. I bow out of the conversation on the premise that there is not enough common ground to be found for us to come to an agreement. Again, respectfully.

Boston Saint · 02-07-2022, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I respectfully disagree with the positions each of you has taken on the discussion, but your perspective is your perspective and I’m not here to try and change that. They’ve always said we live in two different Americas and the fact we can live in the same country and view it so differently and have such disproportionately different outcomes in mass is a testament to that notion. I bow out of the conversation on the premise that there is not enough common ground to be found for us to come to an agreement. Again, respectfully.

Respect rez. It’s gone as far as it can here. You did give me things to consider. Hope I did the same.

saintsfan1976 · 02-07-2022, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I respectfully disagree with the positions each of you has taken on the discussion, but your perspective is your perspective and I’m not here to try and change that. They’ve always said we live in two different Americas and the fact we can live in the same country and view it so differently and have such disproportionately different outcomes in mass is a testament to that notion. I bow out of the conversation on the premise that there is not enough common ground to be found for us to come to an agreement. Again, respectfully.

I'm down with this. But let's not forget our differing perspectives ARE what make this a great place to live. We may not agree on everything but we can learn from each other!

halloween 65 · 02-07-2022, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I respectfully disagree with the positions each of you has taken on the discussion, but your perspective is your perspective and I’m not here to try and change that. They’ve always said we live in two different Americas and the fact we can live in the same country and view it so differently and have such disproportionately different outcomes in mass is a testament to that notion. I bow out of the conversation on the premise that there is not enough common ground to be found for us to come to an agreement. Again, respectfully.

It's all good Rez.

AsylumGuido · 02-07-2022, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Would that be the best candidate overall or the best candidate for Sainst' particular situation?

Yes.

02-07-2022, 05:11 AM	#1
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by subguy I have a great idea, lets hire the best candidate we interviewed Would that be the best candidate overall or the best candidate for Sainst' particular situation?

02-07-2022, 06:12 AM	#2
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,544	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by FinSaint Would that be the best candidate overall or the best candidate for Sainst' particular situation? Let's spit this hair yet again!! Which qualities make up "BEST" and who DEFINES "BEST"?
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,544

02-07-2022, 08:04 AM	#3
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,099	Re: Head Coach Search Whomever the Organization thinks will deliver results, regardless of external factors.

02-07-2022, 08:39 AM	#4
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,022	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by Boston Saint The Egyptian empire enslaved the hebrews way before America came along. Barbary coast pirates of North Africa raided European settlements for white slaves in the 1500s. Black slavers captured Black slaves who were sold to Black slave owners here in the colonies. This is not to say racism was/is not a part of North America’s history. It obviously is. However, Evidence exists that America did not invent slavery or racism. Dumping that baggage on any group today and saying they are responsible is unfair. Originally Posted by subguy Rez thought I was uncomfortable with talk of racism, nothing could be further from the point. I have learned through wisdom of years not to waste breathe on deaf ears. Racism is about what is on your heart. No legislation, Rooney rule, bill or amendments will ever get rid of racism. If you have hate in your heart it is there and a law can't remove it. Love America, there is no other country in the world that 14 % of the population can have such an impact. To have someone who was a head coach claim racism, kinda has bad optics. It is impossible to have a "logical" debate when the topic is emotional. Not going to engage...emotion isn't a solution. Anyway, back to sports...you poked the bear if you don't want to hear it, don't ask. Originally Posted by halloween 65 The never owned a slave talking point goes hand in hand about the being "oppressed" talking point , every skin color has had it done to them throughout history dating back 9000 years ago.And to keep selling it over and over and over your probably right " it truly is no hope for the future of America" or many countries for that matter. I respectfully disagree with the positions each of you has taken on the discussion, but your perspective is your perspective and I’m not here to try and change that. They’ve always said we live in two different Americas and the fact we can live in the same country and view it so differently and have such disproportionately different outcomes in mass is a testament to that notion. I bow out of the conversation on the premise that there is not enough common ground to be found for us to come to an agreement. Again, respectfully.

02-07-2022, 09:45 AM	#5
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by rezburna I respectfully disagree with the positions each of you has taken on the discussion, but your perspective is your perspective and I’m not here to try and change that. They’ve always said we live in two different Americas and the fact we can live in the same country and view it so differently and have such disproportionately different outcomes in mass is a testament to that notion. I bow out of the conversation on the premise that there is not enough common ground to be found for us to come to an agreement. Again, respectfully. Respect rez. It’s gone as far as it can here. You did give me things to consider. Hope I did the same.

02-07-2022, 11:54 AM	#6
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,996 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by rezburna I respectfully disagree with the positions each of you has taken on the discussion, but your perspective is your perspective and I’m not here to try and change that. They’ve always said we live in two different Americas and the fact we can live in the same country and view it so differently and have such disproportionately different outcomes in mass is a testament to that notion. I bow out of the conversation on the premise that there is not enough common ground to be found for us to come to an agreement. Again, respectfully. I'm down with this. But let's not forget our differing perspectives ARE what make this a great place to live. We may not agree on everything but we can learn from each other!

02-07-2022, 02:18 PM	#7
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by rezburna I respectfully disagree with the positions each of you has taken on the discussion, but your perspective is your perspective and I’m not here to try and change that. They’ve always said we live in two different Americas and the fact we can live in the same country and view it so differently and have such disproportionately different outcomes in mass is a testament to that notion. I bow out of the conversation on the premise that there is not enough common ground to be found for us to come to an agreement. Again, respectfully. It's all good Rez.

02-07-2022, 08:02 AM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by FinSaint Would that be the best candidate overall or the best candidate for Sainst' particular situation? Yes.