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The Dude 01-27-2022 01:33 PM

Your dream coach
 
If you could have any coach in the league who would you pick. Obviously a few coaches like Reed are untouchable considering how their teams are built. There are others that could be lured away from their current teams if the F.O. threw enough money at them and bought out their contract. Pete Carrol is one that comes to mind. Obviously we aren’t the most attractive team right now given our cap and Qb situation along with where we are in the draft. Most new coaches have a top 5-10 draft pick in their pocket because teams with high picks don’t typically **** can their coaches. Wonder how sold BB is on Jones.
The turd in the punch bowl this year is that we don’t have the picks to work with if there were to be a trade. We also have some big holes to fill on offense which makes us look even less attractive.
I suspect our next coach will be a lame duck candidate. If he succeeds, great, if not we can bide our time until we are in a situation to make such a move. I seriously doubt money would be the issue here.

Boston Saint 01-27-2022 01:40 PM

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Mike Tomlin

FinSaint 01-27-2022 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 943158)
Mike Tomlin

Yeah, that's the first name that popped into my head as well.

rezburna 01-27-2022 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 943158)
Mike Tomlin

Yep.

RailBoss 01-27-2022 02:35 PM

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Was never a Pittsburgh fan and at the time couldn't stand Bill (spit-boy) Cowher.
When Mike Tomlin came in everything changed in that organization.
I would love to see him Coach in New Orleans.

The Dude 01-27-2022 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 943158)
Mike Tomlin

I was thinking the same. Not in NFL but I wouldn’t mind Jim Harbaugh either.

saintfan 01-27-2022 07:30 PM

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just kiddin'

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Saint in Aus 01-27-2022 07:31 PM

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Tomlin a chance with Big Ben leaving the Steelers?

SmashMouth 01-27-2022 08:12 PM

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The reality is you don't wanna hire an established name. It simply costs too much. Besides, SP was not an established name when hired, but he became one as his career record exemplifies. There is someone out there worthy if management does their due diligence. Is it Allen, Carmichael , another on another team, who knows? We'll just be spectators and armchair QBs in assessing and giving our opinions. It's probably time for new blood. Shall we promote from within? It worked out for the Steelers a few times.

:popcorn:

Boston Saint 01-27-2022 09:13 PM

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saintfan 01-27-2022 09:19 PM

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BakoSaint 01-28-2022 01:04 AM

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Tom Brady. He is very very competitive, smart, can call plays, and learned from the best. I generally would like us to follow the New England model of managing the cap carefully, selectively trading away some veterans or not extending them all, getting more comp picks, and trading back in the draft, and Tom is familiar with that model. He loves to compete and his wife hates to see him get hit, so coaching is a way to compete without getting hit, and he could compete with Belichick and Arians as a coach. He is also good at recruiting players. We wont be great next year anyway with cap issues and no qb so I would be willing to let him learn on the job. Recently retired stars have become very successful coaches in many sports, though not many too recently in football, But I think it could work. He was willing to come here to replace Brees. Why not Payton? And heck we are looking at Leftwich, but is it is not reasonable to argue that Tom Brady may have been the one running Tampas offense the past two years more than Leftwich?

Rugby Saint II 01-28-2022 11:34 AM

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If I had my choice I would still rather have Payton. Oh well, he's ready to move on and see new challenges. I could live with Kris Richards as HC though! He did a wonderful job with our secondary after Glenn left.

SmashMouth 01-28-2022 07:04 PM

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If I had my choice I would still rather have Payton. Oh well, he's ready to move on and see new challenges. I could live with Kris Richards as HC though! He did a wonderful job with our secondary after Glenn left.

Is he interested or in the running ?

The Dude 01-28-2022 08:06 PM

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Is he interested or in the running ?

Maybe we go 1-17, get the #1 pick and Payton comes back and drafts our next franchise QB. One can dream.
I think he’s back on the sidelines in 2023.

The Dude 01-28-2022 09:21 PM

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Is Jerry Glanville still around?

saintfan 01-28-2022 09:23 PM

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FinSaint 01-29-2022 03:59 AM

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Maybe we go 1-17, get the #1 pick and Payton comes back and drafts our next franchise QB. One can dream.

I think he’s back on the sidelines in 2023.

Arch Manning will be in the draft class of 2026-7 and if there's someone who I'd accept tanking for - it's him.

Rugby Saint II 01-29-2022 08:46 AM

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Arch Manning will be in the draft class of 2026-7 and if there's someone who I'd accept tanking for - it's him.

I'm against tanking the season because it is hard to keep the team motivated and/or reinstate a winning attitude. If you make trades before the season it takes a while for players to adjust to a new scheme that has had wholesale changes.

AsylumGuido 01-29-2022 09:58 AM

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I'm against tanking the season because it is hard to keep the team motivated and/or reinstate a winning attitude. If you make trades before the season it takes a while for players to adjust to a new scheme that has had wholesale changes.

Exactly, Rugs. A franchise with a winning culture would never tank because it would destroy that culture. The only franchise I can think of that has even come close to tanking (done at the administrative level) may have been the Jaguars and look where it has gotten them. Year after year they rot near the bottom of the standings. The culture there is toxic.

Honestly, tanking is a fan concept. It's something true competitors would never consider. Personally, I want nothing but true competitors connected with the team that I love.

:bng:

neugey 01-29-2022 10:55 AM

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Exactly, Rugs. A franchise with a winning culture would never tank because it would destroy that culture. The only franchise I can think of that has even come close to tanking (done at the administrative level) may have been the Jaguars and look where it has gotten them. Year after year they rot near the bottom of the standings. The culture there is toxic.

Honestly, tanking is a fan concept. It's something true competitors would never consider. Personally, I want nothing but true competitors connected with the team that I love.

:bng:


Totally agree. As a Lakers fan we had a few tanking years in the 2010's, and even after a championship, a bit of that spectre still looms.


I just watched the "Battered Bastards of Baseball" documentary this morning. If you need proof that playing hard and having your heart in the game matters, for both the players and the fans, that's your proof.

AsylumGuido 01-29-2022 11:04 AM

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Totally agree. As a Lakers fan we had a few tanking years in the 2010's, and even after a championship, a bit of that spectre still looms.


I just watched the "Battered Bastards of Baseball" documentary this morning. If you need proof that playing hard and having your heart in the game matters, for both the players and the fans, that's your proof.

Yup. The NBA is the only major team sport where tanking has been obvious with the players even involved. Thus the whole reason for the NBA draft lottery. Administrative tanking does happen in major league baseball with player selloffs, but even then the players and coaches do everything within their abilities to win. Their individual careers are impacted.

FinSaint 01-29-2022 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 943282)
I'm against tanking the season because it is hard to keep the team motivated and/or reinstate a winning attitude. If you make trades before the season it takes a while for players to adjust to a new scheme that has had wholesale changes.

Yeah, I'm against it as well. My point was that I'd like to see Arch in a Saints' jersey, and I would be ok with pretty much any move that allows it to happen.

Granted, this notion might be a stupid one and he might not even turn out to be a good pro athlete, but how great would it be to have another Manning as a franchise QB?!

saintfan 01-29-2022 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 943288)
Exactly, Rugs. A franchise with a winning culture would never tank because it would destroy that culture. The only franchise I can think of that has even come close to tanking (done at the administrative level) may have been the Jaguars and look where it has gotten them. Year after year they rot near the bottom of the standings. The culture there is toxic.

Honestly, tanking is a fan concept. It's something true competitors would never consider. Personally, I want nothing but true competitors connected with the team that I love.

:bng:

:stupid:

Lots of teams tank. It happens every year. It's not a fan concept, it's a strategy, and "tanking", as fanboys like you call it, has been the foundation for many a championship run.


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