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saintfan 01-31-2022 01:17 PM

Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away
 
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Originally Posted by papz (Post 943462)
I don't even care that he quit. I just dislike the fact we won't get compensation until next year and a personnel decision he made that lengthens out our rebuilding process. Sometimes a change is good for everyone(example Andy Reid in Philly). We've been a good football team but stuck in limbo for quite some time. I've been ready for new leadership and Payton quitting has actually re-energized my interest in Saints football.

Feeling this

Boston Saint 01-31-2022 03:02 PM

Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away
 
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Originally Posted by papz (Post 943462)
I don't even care that he quit. I just dislike the fact we won't get compensation until next year and a personnel decision he made that lengthens out our rebuilding process. Sometimes a change is good for everyone(example Andy Reid in Philly). We've been a good football team but stuck in limbo for quite some time. I've been ready for new leadership and Payton quitting has actually re-energized my interest in Saints football.

I get your sentiment Papz, but the “limbo” you describe is a VERY successful team that could not get Over the hump because the NFL screwed us too often. I don’t want to revert to the years of the “Aints” and Mike Ditka where we were a laughing stock. Some people forget how easy it is to slip back into that stage of crappiness. Many, MANY franchises would love to have been in the “limbo” or whatever some want to call it that the Saints have existed in over the last 16 years. Yet some like bako want to ***** about how we weren’t more successful. The entitlement some fans feel amazes me

frydaddy 01-31-2022 03:02 PM

Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away
 
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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 943456)
Good grief dude, STFU. You've exceeded the ridiculousness of what you're being critical of.

Coming from the one guy who is almost as bad as Guido, that's rich.

saintsfan1976 01-31-2022 04:32 PM

Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away
 
In an older post I listed the gut-wrenching ways each of the last 5 seasons ended. Last second, last play, terrible call....

I wondered then "how do we find the fortitude to keep fighting"

Maybe it broke Sean Payton. Him quitting the comp committee may have been the writing on the wall.

Boston Saint 01-31-2022 04:47 PM

Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away
 
Excellent thought. Here we are as fans taking the losses and wins to heart. It has to be minuscule compared to how the players and coaches feel. We as
fans can only imagine the effort and emotion that Payton must have felt.

AsylumGuido 01-31-2022 04:58 PM

Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 943471)
In an older post I listed the gut-wrenching ways each of the last 5 seasons ended. Last second, last play, terrible call....

I wondered then "how do we find the fortitude to keep fighting"

Maybe it broke Sean Payton. Him quitting the comp committee may have been the writing on the wall.

According to Jay Glazer the writing was on the wall last summer. Glazer and Payton are close friends and he said it came as no surprise to him at all that Payton was thinking those thoughts. Payton was somewhat ready before 2021 even began. Leaving the competitions committee made sense if he was seriously considering leaving coaching after the season anyway. That was the period on the writing on the wall that you mentioned, saintsfan1976.

The broadcasting booth seems far less stressful in comparison. Can't blame him at all for moving on. Just like Bill Cowher, Jimmy Johnson, and John Madden he can remain close to the game he loves without the stress.

AsylumGuido 01-31-2022 05:01 PM

Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 943472)
Excellent thought. Here we are as fans taking the losses and wins to heart. It has to be minuscule compared to how the players and coaches feel. We as
fans can only imagine the effort and emotion that Payton must have felt.

And consider that effort took basically 12 months a year, 30 days a month, and 16 hours a day. That has to build over the years. He deserves to move on.

saintfan 01-31-2022 05:54 PM

Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 943473)
According to Jay Glazer the writing was on the wall last summer. Glazer and Payton are close friends and he said it came as no surprise to him at all that Payton was thinking those thoughts. Payton was somewhat ready before 2021 even began. Leaving the competitions committee made sense if he was seriously considering leaving coaching after the season anyway. That was the period on the writing on the wall that you mentioned, saintsfan1976.

The broadcasting booth seems far less stressful in comparison. Can't blame him at all for moving on. Just like Bill Cowher, Jimmy Johnson, and John Madden he can remain close to the game he loves without the stress.

And yet every year anyone who suggested it was an idiot by your measure and you attacked them...even THIS year you attacked them.

Now you can totally see it. LOL I guess your daddy never taught you how to stand for something...

saintsfan1976 01-31-2022 06:28 PM

Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away
 
So close to a ring, for so many seasons in a row. Both Sean's and Drew's legacies come to mind. It all came just so close to being so different...

2017 Won Wild Card playoffs (Panthers) 31–26
Lost Divisional playoffs (at Vikings) 29–24 LAST PLAY

2018 Won Divisional playoffs (Eagles) 20–14
Lost NFC Championship (Rams) 26–23 (OT) NO CALL

2019 Lost Wild Card playoffs (Vikings) 26–20 (OT) LAST PLAY

2020 Won Wild Card playoffs (Bears) 21–9
Lost Divisional playoffs (Buccaneers) 30–20 FOLDED
Drew Brees retires

2021 The season that started with optimism and failed to meet expectations, every single week after.
Sean Payton retires

2022 The most important offseason in sixteen years...

saintsfan1976 01-31-2022 06:35 PM

Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 942184)
2017 - The Miracle in Minnesota
2018 - The "No Call"
2019 - The "Push-off in Minnesota" (also a No Call)
2020 - The Self Destruction in The Dome
2021 - The Season of Murphy...

Don't know about y'all but my liver could barely take another ending like 2017-2020. Then we had an entire season of misfortune... We stomped Green Bay and then it was like the Minnesota Miracle every single week.

How does our franchise find the intestinal fortitude?

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 942340)
We've got Payton leading the charge.

How funny now to read this.


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