Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach

02-08-2022, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Its hella tough when you get your first job as the man in charge. You gonna make a lot of mistakes. The good ones gonna learn from them and do way better the second time.
I'm glad they hired Allen, the D has been growing into a formidable unit under him the last couple of years. I hope he gets another DC because I am no fan of head coaches being coordinators and calling plays, they have enough on their plates anyways.

Seems to me like some here forget that we ahev already seen a full season of Carmichael as the OC, back in 2012 when SP was suspended. The season as a whole was trash with the worst defence in leauge history but the O produced with Brees throwing for over 5 000yds. I think we wil be altright there.

Fans forget Bill Belichick was 37-45 in Cleveland.

saintsfan1976 · 02-08-2022, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Allen lets our OC go, that's his 1st mistake. If so Campbell's (Detroit) gonna scoop him up and gonna jump start Detroit. Bad move on Allen good move for Campbell. Do we really have the players in place to run a new O?

How do you know for certain?

What if there's someone in mind already?

What if there's plans for a special QB coming in 2022 along with a new OC?

What if Carmichael stays on with more oversight?

We just don't know enough yet to dismiss any possibility as a bad move.

papz · 02-08-2022, 08:47 AM

Good for Allen. He's earned it.

I, for one, am glad that it's likely he won't be scattered and can focus on coaching as opposed to making personnel decisions as well.

K Major · 02-08-2022, 08:52 AM

Next plan of action …

We need a QB.

papz · 02-08-2022, 09:12 AM

Maybe we find a one year stop gap like Bridgewater or Mariota and draft one. We definitely need to draft one.

This is going to be unpopular but it might be favorable to move on from Kamara's contract. Solid rb talent available and gives us a more money to work with to rebuild that offense.

AsylumGuido · 02-08-2022, 09:33 AM

rezburna · 02-08-2022, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

You were hoping for Leftwich rez?

I had Bienemy on the top of my list, then Leftwich, and then Allen. Flores would really be at the top of my list if not for the lawsuit. It’s just too much of a distraction right now. I have a lot of concerns now, but we gone see how it all shakes out.

Budsdrinker · 02-08-2022, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

So what did the Saints talk about when they interviewed Bienemy for 8 hours? That's a long Interview, isn't it? Is it remotely possible he's not really HC material if he's getting passed by every time?

Bienemy's contract is up in KC. Maybe we were trying to sell him on the OC job as well. Rumor has it Carmichael will be promoted to assistant Head coach and not OC.

K Major · 02-08-2022, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Bienemy's contract is up in KC. Maybe we were trying to sell him on the OC job as well. Rumor has it Carmichael will be promoted to assistant Head coach and not OC.

I’d be very surprised if Eric is even remotely interested in a lateral move.

And with no QB in place for New Orleans.

AsylumGuido · 02-08-2022, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I’d be very surprised if Eric is even remotely interested in a lateral move.

And with no QB in place for New Orleans.

Perhaps that QB is in place but we don't know it yet publicly. Bieniemy may be interested in working with Jameis. Or at least maybe they were trying to sell him on the notion. And Mrs. B does have deep pockets. And New Orleans is his home.

No telling, but it would be a coup to get him in that capacity.

02-08-2022, 08:32 AM	#41
Threaded by saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Crusader Its hella tough when you get your first job as the man in charge. You gonna make a lot of mistakes. The good ones gonna learn from them and do way better the second time. I'm glad they hired Allen, the D has been growing into a formidable unit under him the last couple of years. I hope he gets another DC because I am no fan of head coaches being coordinators and calling plays, they have enough on their plates anyways. Seems to me like some here forget that we ahev already seen a full season of Carmichael as the OC, back in 2012 when SP was suspended. The season as a whole was trash with the worst defence in leauge history but the O produced with Brees throwing for over 5 000yds. I think we wil be altright there. Fans forget Bill Belichick was 37-45 in Cleveland.
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02-08-2022, 08:34 AM	#42
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach Originally Posted by halloween 65 Allen lets our OC go, that's his 1st mistake. If so Campbell's (Detroit) gonna scoop him up and gonna jump start Detroit. Bad move on Allen good move for Campbell. Do we really have the players in place to run a new O? How do you know for certain? What if there's someone in mind already? What if there's plans for a special QB coming in 2022 along with a new OC? What if Carmichael stays on with more oversight? We just don't know enough yet to dismiss any possibility as a bad move. Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

02-08-2022, 08:47 AM	#43
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach Good for Allen. He's earned it. I, for one, am glad that it's likely he won't be scattered and can focus on coaching as opposed to making personnel decisions as well. Halo, saintsfan1976 and Rugby Saint II like this.

02-08-2022, 08:52 AM	#44
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach Next plan of action … We need a QB. saintsfan1976 and shawnkytonk like this.

02-08-2022, 09:12 AM	#45
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach Maybe we find a one year stop gap like Bridgewater or Mariota and draft one. We definitely need to draft one. This is going to be unpopular but it might be favorable to move on from Kamara's contract. Solid rb talent available and gives us a more money to work with to rebuild that offense.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach Originally Posted by Boston Saint You were hoping for Leftwich rez? I had Bienemy on the top of my list, then Leftwich, and then Allen. Flores would really be at the top of my list if not for the lawsuit. It’s just too much of a distraction right now. I have a lot of concerns now, but we gone see how it all shakes out.

02-08-2022, 09:52 AM	#48
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach Originally Posted by SmashMouth So what did the Saints talk about when they interviewed Bienemy for 8 hours? That's a long Interview, isn't it? Is it remotely possible he's not really HC material if he's getting passed by every time? Bienemy's contract is up in KC. Maybe we were trying to sell him on the OC job as well. Rumor has it Carmichael will be promoted to assistant Head coach and not OC. AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and shawnkytonk like this.

02-08-2022, 10:08 AM	#49
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Bienemy's contract is up in KC. Maybe we were trying to sell him on the OC job as well. Rumor has it Carmichael will be promoted to assistant Head coach and not OC. I’d be very surprised if Eric is even remotely interested in a lateral move. And with no QB in place for New Orleans.

02-08-2022, 10:22 AM	#50
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach Originally Posted by K Major I’d be very surprised if Eric is even remotely interested in a lateral move. And with no QB in place for New Orleans. Perhaps that QB is in place but we don't know it yet publicly. Bieniemy may be interested in working with Jameis. Or at least maybe they were trying to sell him on the notion. And Mrs. B does have deep pockets. And New Orleans is his home. No telling, but it would be a coup to get him in that capacity. saintsfan1976 likes this.