Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans
 

Saints Hire Former Assistant Doug Marrone & John Morton to Offensive Staff.

The New Orleans Saints are hiring Doug Marrone to a key role on their offensive staff. Marrone was previously with the Saints from 2006-2008 as their offensive coordinator, a formal face for Dennis Allen who was also brought onto the staff at that time. Most recently, he spent time as the Jacksonville Jaguars head coach. Marrone was a part of the Saints' rebirth in 2006 and helped change the culture of the Saints organization, now he’s back with the team again.
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Good on John Morton. We need more fresh eyes on the WR core, added offensive input.

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Looking back at Dougie’s tenure with the Jags, he had a WR by the name of DJ CHARK on his roster. LEGITIMATE #2 WR.

That could be a plus for us as we head into Free Agency next month.

At least I can dream 😄.

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DJ Chark had a 1,000 yard season under Marrone in 2019. Would love to snag him in free agency.

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For the right price I agree. His history of injury scares me

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Good moves. I ain’t mad at that.

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It's great to see former HCs filling specialized roles for DA. I don't get the impression he has any intention for this team other than being the best.

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That's the drift I'm getting, as well. I don't think he expects any steps back. More like full speed ahead. Hopefully with Marrone working some of his magic with the o-line.

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Honestly, when SP started doing this is when our coaching staff really flourished. Nolan and Allen come to mind right off.

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Have to believe SP is a call or at least a text away. Not that he wants to lean on Sean but I'm sure they discussed plans beyond 2022 when Sean was the presumed HC through 2025...

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I agree judging from what I see the NFL Coaching Brotherhood seems to be long lasting especially for those who came up the ladder together.
I can always remember Sean being tight with Gruden which stemmed from the days back in Philly.
But it's DA's time now and he didn't waste much time in getting his house in order.

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I was about to make that point but you beat me to it. :-D

I just love the wealth of experience DA is bringing in. We probably gonna have to do a little bargain shopping in FA and rely on the draft to navigate trough a pretty rough cap situation and having coaches that, hopefully, can get the best out of unheralded players will be key.

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Ex-coach Charlie Weis said a few months ago (yes, on XM NFL Radio) that when hiring staff he learned the hard way that only bringing in people you know, yet with no experience with the positions, can be a disaster. He also said that bringing in people with experience, but not having a working relationship can also be an issue.

Dennis Allen appears to be bringing in people he knows that also have a great deal of experience. Win/win.

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That hiring philosophy sure as hell didn't work for Charlie Weis in Kansas or ND.

He was a terrible Head Coach.

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Exactly! That was his point, K. He said those were the mistakes he made at Kansas and Notre Dame. They were talking about what he would tell a first time head coach and he pointed out what he did wrong in building staff back then. He didn't use the hiring strategy he is now supporting. Hopefully Dennis Allen has learned from some of his own mistakes the first time around, as well, plus seeing what did and didn't work with Payton.

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Major’s point may be that Why does what Weis have to say matter? Weis is
guessing on WHY HE SUCKED. He says he learned from his mistakes, but where is the evidence of that? When was his last successful NFL season ?

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Then he was born to play in New Orleans. :p

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It doesn't matter who it came from, it just so happens to have come from him. The guest was a coach, as well, I can't remember who, however, and he agreed completely. Weis very well may still have sucked as a head coach, but they both knew his hiring practices were faulty. It is still a truism. Correct? It makes perfect sense, does it not?

Or are you saying it's better to hire coaches who are friends with no experience (what he said he did at Notre Dame)? Are you saying it is better to hire experienced coaches that you have no prior working relationships or understanding of common ways of thinking (what he said he did later at Kansas)?

Or are you simply arguing the point just for the sake of arguing? :D

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Correct me if I'm wrong but i believe there isn't a cap on the number of coaches/assistants a team can have.

So if you can afford it, why not bring in specialized instructors and analysts?

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I don't believe there is any limit. It's up to the owner's pocketbook. I was reading the other day about some owner in the very recent past that wouldn't allow the GM to bring in a special analyst. It was either Miami or J'ville, I believe.

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Or are you simply arguing the point just for the sake of arguing?

That's your "SPECIALty"

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I’m not taking sides on the overall issue between saintfan and others against guido. I’m commenting on the remarks in this thread. This thread was going fine with a back and forth of thoughts, ideas, and opinions on the topic. Then you had to do exactly what y’all have vilified guido of doing and that’s try to start an argument. Again, not taking sides because there are points to be made from both as well as negatives to be had on both. But this senseless attempt to start something every time guido says something isn’t working in case y’all haven’t noticed. Unless I missed it he hasn’t taken the bait yet. :bng:

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Thank you, jlouhill. I was hoping I wasn't the only one noticing. I had put Boston on "ignore" some time back because I was sick of getting into arguments with him over stupid stuff. I took him off my ignore list because, unlike saintfan, he actually posts Saints worthy discussion. But, it's started again.

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It stops when you own it little speedo. Not a scintillia of a second before. Love this board as much as you project? Want peace? Own it.

Maybe create an apology thread wherein you acknowledge your personal attacks and race baiting (might want to change your extremely offensive name) and assure the community you understand your role and pledge to police yourself.

You haven't attacked anyone since this started. I know why - because I became your target and you are now using me as your source for ego feeding. See how it works?

How 'bout it little man? Swallow that pride speedo. You can do it...or can you?

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It is working. He hasn't attacked anybody since I went nuclear on him. He's attacked me plenty, and he's trying to divide the board to be sure, but it's working - it just takes time. When enough people realize they can hold him to account we will have made real progress - the community he preys on will be his ultimate demise...and be careful what you say because he'll report you too. He's the only person here who does - everybody else just moves on with their lives.

Speedo is getting what he gives. Little speedo has derailed more threads here over the years than I can keep up with without keeping a list, which I started about 2 years ago. His actions can't be ignored anymore and he has to own it. The community deserves a place to have opinions without being challenged by our resident race baiter. As a part time paid writer on the interwebs, I am personally pissed at his knack for plagiarism, but it's not just personal. It's also against the law.

Apologies for the drama. It can't stop until the problem is solved, and as we can see by Speedo's response, he still hasn't owned it. NPD is a tough nut to crack.

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Like I said, I’m not taking one side over the other here. I can’t speak to what has happened in the past as I haven’t been on the receiving end of any of what you are claiming against guido. I rarely post on here but I do frequent the site almost daily because I get very informative information about our Saints on here. I will occasionally chime in but usually just read as I have never played organized football so I’m a bit ignorant about some of the inner workings of the game such as placement of certain players in certain positions and so on. I grew up playing baseball so I’m more in tune with the ins and outs of that sport.
I like what most everyone brings to this forum Saints related. As I stated I have never had any negativity from guido. As with others I don’t always agree with his analysis or how he may respond to others. I usually just bypass things that seem to get personal or off topic. I have seen where he has said he has apologized privately to some and he has toned it down recently. As you have admitted he hasn’t attacked anyone since this war started. He has also stated that he is trying to do better.
May I make a suggestion merely as a third party on the sidelines of all this. Maybe call a ceasefire and see how things pan out. If someone breaks the ceasefire then have at it. I will just have to navigate the mine field of vitriol and focus on Saints news. I think a lot of us on here would like to see some sort of peace agreement. I’m certainly not telling you or anyone else on here what to do. It’s just a friendly suggestion. :bng:

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Damn son! I'd follow you into battle.

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I made ONE comment on this thread and it was in regard to a comment Major made and my interpretation of it and how I thought guido missed his point. In what way was my comment an attack or argumentative?

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So, me commenting that you may have missed Major’s point is an attack now? In other words YOU are allowed to reply and disagree with Major’s point, but if I comment on his point I’m just being argumentative? Feel free to put me back on ignore.

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Look, I’m not trying to stoke the flames here. I interpreted the posts by major and guido totally different than your take. I interpreted your response as being argumentative. If that wasn’t your intent then I apologize. After re-reading the post I can see your point on what major was saying. I simply didn’t see it that way. I thought your questions were argumentative because I didn’t view it as being about Weis or how good or bad he was. I simply saw it as Weis saying that he did things a certain way and that he sees now that was possibly why he struggled as a head coach. He can take that experience and share it with young coaches so they might not adopt the same philosophy. That’s how I read it. I can see the point of who is he to give head coaching advice given his record but if he knows now one of the areas he failed as a HC then I don’t see the problem with him sharing that with others. That’s just my take on it. ;)

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I recognize my targeting of speedo is causing some discomfort. I have apologized for the drama and remain regretful, but it is a glitch in the matrix, and if I didn't believe it was necessary I would surely try something else. The problem is I HAVE tried other things with little speedo and he just can not bring himself to look in his mirror and assess his own behavior. Once enough hell gets raised the speedo issue will resolve and we will all get back to our team and only our team.

The simple truth is speedo doesn't understand how to debate and he doesn't understand how to just let it go. He trolls across threads, then makes formal reports to management trying to get these people in trouble for engaging him in the thing HE started with them and for doing nothing more than having an opinion which doesn't line up with his own view. He is a race baiter. He is absolutely guilty of the theft of other people's work. And yes, beyond all that he's just an annoying presence to enough people here to matter, otherwise I would not have gotten involved. I've watched speedo here for years, and I've watched it get worse over time. And please remember he is not a child - this is a grown damn man.

None of that is up for debate. These are the behaviors of little speedo. What he's trying to do now with his little girlish denial is to divide the board...to get people 'on his side' - to set his supporters (if he has any) against his detractors, so he's quick to offer thanks to anyone who takes issue with the situation - tries to make that at attack on me, and is equally quick to let us all know who he's blocked and to remind us all it's one-sided and that he just can't understand everyone else's childish behavior.

At some point the little fella needs to look at that list of blocked people and ask himself why he has to block so many people...a reasonable person might have done that already and it's one of the many (many) reasons I think he suffers from NPD - while we ALL suffer. As a 'moderator' here I don't think I've ever really moderated anything - years and years of nadda. I actually had to learn how to use a few tools in the last few weeks just to find an alternate way to send this disturbed little man a message he doesn't seem to get.

Nobody's take on little speedo has anything to do with me - it is the result of individual experiences. The consensus is what it is. This is NOT me versus speedo, nor is it anyone else versus speedo. It is the result of a man on the spectrum who never grew up. No more excuses and no quarter.

Hey speedo:

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Well thanks for the apology, but for someone not trying to take sides or fan the flames you made a post placing the blame quite firmly on me with:

“ This thread was going fine with a back and forth of thoughts, ideas, and opinions on the topic. Then you had to do exactly what y’all have vilified guido of doing and that’s try to start an argument.”

I clearly said “may be” he missed the point. I never said guido was wrong or attacked him. I was providing that back and forth of thoughts and ideas you claimed was fine when others were doing it; but for some reason it’s not fine with you, guido, fin or rugby when I did it.

Since my point was about Major’s post and he liked my response I feel guido did in fact miss Major’s point and my comment was spot on. How I got dragged into this crap of being labeled as argumentative with guido of all posters is friggin beyond me. It does piss me the hell off though considering things he’s hit me with in the past.

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Answer: Because speedo has on multiple occasions broadcast in the forum that you're one of the people he's had to block. Recently he told everyone that he had unblocked you but but guessed he would have to block you again.

It is an example of how speedo very subtly is trying to divide the board by creating proxy enemies for other people he believes are defending his honor.

NPD. Classic NPD

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I’m not going to get into a pissing match with you. I tried to apologize for misinterpreting your post but your tirade after was not necessary. I’m sorry I ruffled your feathers and opened old wounds. Now let’s move on please. :bng:

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Or maybe, just maybe, Major is a Big Boy who can explain his posts himself? Mary Sweet Mother of Jesus, can we just squash this and talk football... PLEASE?

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You got that right.

No one on this board speaks for Major. No one.

I'm definitely not the issue on this platform. If others fail to see who is the s*** starter is on this site, post after post ... shame on them.

I think our Moderator has done a masterful job in pointing out bad forum etiquette & a lot of folks are tired of it.

Back to football ...

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Yes. That was exactly my intent on posting that anecdote, jlouhill. Given that Allen failed in his first attempt as a head coach and this time he was hiring assistants that he both knew well AND were extremely experienced it fit the scenarios Weis had explained were mistakes that he had made when he was staff building. He added that they were not the only mistakes he made. As simple as that.

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Believe me. That what I'm trying to do, K.

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Really?!! You tried to bring it back to football when you fired this out there?

“Thank you, jlouhill. I was hoping I wasn't the only one noticing. I had put Boston on "ignore" some time back because I was sick of getting into arguments with him over stupid stuff. I took him off my ignore list because, unlike saintfan, he actually posts Saints worthy discussion. But, it's started again.“


When my original post was:

“Major’s point may be that Why does what Weis have to say matter? Weis is
guessing on WHY HE SUCKED. He says he learned from his mistakes, but where is the evidence of that? When was his last successful NFL season ?”

Now, point out to me what was inappropriate or argumentative in the post I originally made. What was out of line that I should not have said in your opinion? What was worthy of putting me on “ignore”? The only person who could have issue with it is Major for me maybe have misrepresenting his point.

If that post was an example of being confrontational or argumentative enough for you to mention it as justification for blocking me guido then you better put your big boy pants on. You damn well know you’ve said worse to me.

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I ain’t stopping you from doing anything. My original post on this thread was about football and Weis. I got called out for it Maybe, just Maybe you get off my back.