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K Major 02-16-2022 07:37 PM

Pete Carmichael will stay on as the Saints offensive coordinator
 
Per reports.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...e-coordinator/

AsylumGuido 02-16-2022 07:39 PM

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AsylumGuido 02-16-2022 07:42 PM

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Well it looks like those that were concerned that Carmichael "requested a demotion" can sleep easier tonight. It appears he stepped aside to be considered among outside competition.

I think the odds of retaining Jameis just increased with the offense remaining closer to home.

halloween 65 02-16-2022 07:59 PM

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Can't wait to see what he schemes up calling plays.

AsylumGuido 02-16-2022 08:00 PM

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ChrisXVI 02-16-2022 08:17 PM

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Yeah I don’t know about this. Pete’s spent years trying to avoid being in a position of authority because apparently it’s just not his style. Now we have a defensive head coach so it’s squarely on Carmichael to run the offense.

RailBoss 02-16-2022 08:24 PM

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I'm pretty sure that I have faith in Pete..pretty sure.
It's almost as if Sean set the stage before he left..

ChrisXVI 02-16-2022 08:28 PM

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So it’s the Sean Payton Saints minus Sean Payton and we’re expecting improvement?

RailBoss 02-16-2022 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 945071)
So it’s the Sean Payton Saints minus Sean Payton and we’re expecting improvement?

What are you worried about we got Doug Marrone...
But seriously our O-Line should show improvement.

Boston Saint 02-17-2022 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 945071)
So it’s the Sean Payton Saints minus Sean Payton and we’re expecting improvement?

“Hopefully” it’s the Saints minus Payton...but plus Thomas and minus the fascination Payton had that Hill can be a viable QB. Simply getting rid of some of Payton’s ideas including his “projects” may go a long way to helping the team. Baptiste anyone? I don’t want to hack on Book either, but he is a project guy I doubt many HCs would have taken when/where Payton drafted him. Hope he proves me dead wrong.

SmashMouth 02-17-2022 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 945071)
So it’s the Sean Payton Saints minus Sean Payton and we’re expecting improvement?

Fair question... and in all fairness also, we should always expect and see improvement, no matter who is at the helm. We'll see what portends.

AsylumGuido 02-17-2022 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 945071)
So it’s the Sean Payton Saints minus Sean Payton and we’re expecting improvement?

I'm expecting improvement just based upon the degree in which the offense was decimated last year. It CAN'T get worse ... can it?

AsylumGuido 02-17-2022 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 945079)
Fair question... and in all fairness also, we should always expect and see improvement, no matter who is at the helm. We'll see what portends.

True. There were more than a few complaining that Payton was getting stale for lack of a better word.

saintsfan1976 02-17-2022 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 945069)
Yeah I don’t know about this. Pete’s spent years trying to avoid being in a position of authority because apparently it’s just not his style. Now we have a defensive head coach so it’s squarely on Carmichael to run the offense.

How do you know this for certain?

saintsfan1976 02-17-2022 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 945071)
So it’s the Sean Payton Saints minus Sean Payton and we’re expecting improvement?

A perennial top 10 offense. Outside of personnel, what needs to be improved?

papz 02-17-2022 09:37 AM

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Well he's more than qualified. I was hoping for a fresh set of eyes but I'm good with it. As long as we don't see any 4 and short jet sweeps, we'll be just fine.

K Major 02-17-2022 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 945094)
A perennial top 10 offense. Outside of personnel, what needs to be improved?

I'll be curious to see what Dougie M does with the O line. Specifically RUIZ, Peat & Landon Young.

Collectively, the Saints O line didn't perform up to their potential in 2021, even when healthy.

NonieT 02-17-2022 10:48 AM

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Pete Carmichael called the offense in 2012 with no input from Sean Payton. Saints had the #2 offense in the NFL. It was the defense that was a trainwreck.

halloween 65 02-17-2022 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 945108)
Pete Carmichael called the offense in 2012 with no input from Sean Payton. Saints had the #2 offense in the NFL. It was the defense that was a trainwreck.

Exactly. I think given an improved O-line, with a qb( hopefully Winston) that has a really good deep ball (2011 and 2012 season come to mind) a set of decent rb's and wr's we could be a very good O with him calling the shots. This draft and FA's are going to be key for the O this season, more than any in recent years.

halloween 65 02-17-2022 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 945078)
“Hopefully” it’s the Saints minus Payton...but plus Thomas and minus the fascination Payton had that Hill can be a viable QB. Simply getting rid of some of Payton’s ideas including his “projects” may go a long way to helping the team. Baptiste anyone? I don’t want to hack on Book either, but he is a project guy I doubt many HCs would have taken when/where Payton drafted him. Hope he proves me dead wrong.

I think Hill might become a really good TE in a short period of time. I don't look at him as a qb anymore. One more concussion with the his style of play bothers me also. I can't discount Book yet but he's tough. He might do better with a line to protect him. We got Bortles also, he will beat Hill out in camp if the Hill experiment continues.

saintfan 02-17-2022 11:40 AM

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I'm not putting Pete down - I believe he's capable. It's one thing to be OC when you have a Drew Brees. It's quite another if you don't. We shall see...

:popcorn:

AsylumGuido 02-17-2022 11:42 AM

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saintfan 02-17-2022 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 945114)

We already know you get your thoughts from tweets other people make. You don't have to post them here relentlessly.

WW_Who_Dat 02-17-2022 12:15 PM

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I am glad they settled on Pete. With MT and focus on improvement of the Oline return of Jamis all sets up for a real look to the future of our offense. Itis sounding more likely that Kamara will be facing significant legal hurtles as LVPD and The Attorney General’s office is not mitigating but continue ti increase the level of charges. Time will tell but we might need to be knee deep in the running back draft.

I think Pete’s offensive game planning and game calling will be within the system that has been this teams offense during the SP years but will be game planned and call different.

Allen will have a roll in this and I think it’s a good thing … aggressive and strategic is how I’ve viewed him operate his defensive game planning and play calling and hopefully he bring some of that input to Pete and the offense.

saintfan 02-17-2022 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 945118)
I am glad they settled on Pete. With MT and focus on improvement of the Oline return of Jamis all sets up for a real look to the future of our offense. Itis sounding more likely that Kamara will be facing significant legal hurtles as LVPD and The Attorney General’s office is not mitigating but continue ti increase the level of charges. Time will tell but we might need to be knee deep in the running back draft.

I think Pete’s offensive game planning and game calling will be within the system that has been this teams offense during the SP years but will be game planned and call different.

Allen will have a roll in this and I think it’s a good thing … aggressive and strategic is how I’ve viewed him operate his defensive game planning and play calling and hopefully he bring some of that input to Pete and the offense.

Well, as our resident cap specialist (little speedo) has repeatedly advised us, the cap doesn't matter, and he knows all the accounting principles to be found on wikipedia. Therefore we should just go out and sign the two highest rated players available at the position and draft elsewhere.

Then again, we could sign Russell Wilson and an entirely new o-line as well as two or three of the highest rated vet WRs in the league.

Because, you know, the cap doesn't matter... :rolleyes:

K Major 02-17-2022 05:14 PM

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I'll be curious to see if Pete C adds another weapon at RB this off-season.

AK is gonna get the David Onyemata treatment & then some.

AsylumGuido 02-17-2022 05:18 PM

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Boston Saint 02-17-2022 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945161)
I'll be curious to see if Pete C adds another weapon at RB this off-season.

AK is gonna get the David Onyemata treatment & then some.

Agreed major. Don’t see how they can’t add a player or two in the backfield.

Rugby Saint II 02-18-2022 10:42 AM

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I'm definitely glad that we will follow the same format without blowing up the offense which has several weapons. Get healthy boys. There is a big year in front of us.

AsylumGuido 07-19-2022 04:27 PM

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