Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option

K Major · 03-14-2022, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/ByLukeJohnson/st...14586812289037

Good.

Didn't want him in New Orleans. He's a glorified back up at this level.

AsylumGuido · 03-14-2022, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Good.

Didn't want him in New Orleans. He's a glorified back up at this level.

I doubt we had any interest in Trubisky, but the Steelers definitely had interest in Winston.

saintfan · 03-14-2022, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I doubt we had any interest in Trubisky, but the Steelers definitely had interest in Winston.

So sayeth twitter...

AsylumGuido · 03-14-2022, 01:26 PM

Landing spots for Jameis have basically been narrowed to the Colts and ourselves. I'd rather have him, the talent we'd have to trade away, and the free agents we can afford over Watson even disregarding the distractions of the lawsuits.

saintfan · 03-14-2022, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Landing spots for Jameis have basically been narrowed to the Colts and ourselves. I'd rather have him, the talent we'd have to trade away, and the free agents we can afford over Watson even disregarding the distractions of the lawsuits.

The cap doesn't matter so the FA we can 'afford' would be any of them, eh speedo? Or have you come to your limited senses by now?

saintsfan1976 · 03-14-2022, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Landing spots for Jameis have basically been narrowed to the Colts and ourselves. I'd rather have him, the talent we'd have to trade away, and the free agents we can afford over Watson even disregarding the distractions of the lawsuits.

To be fair we don't know the level of talent we'd trade away. And if we get Watson for a decade, it's arguably a great deal for US.

saintfan · 03-14-2022, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

To be fair we don't know the level of talent we'd trade away. And if we get Watson for a decade, it's arguably a great deal for US.

Locking down that position with a dynamic guy like that has to be worth the loss. I never was one to sweat dealing draft picks and, if we lose a few key players then train up the next group I guess - I'm not sure I could be mad about it. Teams go decades trying to find the QB to build around right?

SmashMouth · 03-15-2022, 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

To be fair we don't know the level of talent we'd trade away. And if we get Watson for a decade, it's arguably a great deal for US.

Originally Posted by saintfan

Locking down that position with a dynamic guy like that has to be worth the loss. I never was one to sweat dealing draft picks and, if we lose a few key players then train up the next group I guess - I'm not sure I could be mad about it. Teams go decades trying to find the QB to build around right?

Can we slip them that Popeyes Sammich guy, Ruiz and some other former first rounder disappointing to us but significant player in their eyes?

TheOak · 03-15-2022, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Can we slip them that Popeyes Sammich guy, Ruiz and some other former first rounder disappointing to us but significant player in their eyes?

I'm wunderin ifem sammiches play into his cap hit? Either the team is supplying them and they are part of compensation or he asked for a mil a year to cover them....

AsylumGuido · 03-15-2022, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

To be fair we don't know the level of talent we'd trade away. And if we get Watson for a decade, it's arguably a great deal for US.

Nor do we know what we'll get out of Watson himself. He has a fairly limited body of work. His last season played he managed a 4-12 record as the starting QB. Then he refused to play the following season. He is staring a potential six game suspension in the face now that the criminal angle is out of the way. Houston is demanding young starting players in return ... of their choice. Not to mention the loss of key draft capital.

It's a huge gamble that could cripple our franchise for years. I'll still be a huge fan if it happens, but I am extremely concerned that it could blow up in our face.

03-14-2022, 12:01 PM	#191
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,742 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by AsylumGuido https://twitter.com/ByLukeJohnson/st...14586812289037 Good. Didn't want him in New Orleans. He's a glorified back up at this level. saintsfan1976 likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,492	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by K Major Good. Didn't want him in New Orleans. He's a glorified back up at this level. I doubt we had any interest in Trubisky, but the Steelers definitely had interest in Winston.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I doubt we had any interest in Trubisky, but the Steelers definitely had interest in Winston. So sayeth twitter... K Major likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,492	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Landing spots for Jameis have basically been narrowed to the Colts and ourselves. I'd rather have him, the talent we'd have to trade away, and the free agents we can afford over Watson even disregarding the distractions of the lawsuits.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Landing spots for Jameis have basically been narrowed to the Colts and ourselves. I'd rather have him, the talent we'd have to trade away, and the free agents we can afford over Watson even disregarding the distractions of the lawsuits. The cap doesn't matter so the FA we can 'afford' would be any of them, eh speedo? Or have you come to your limited senses by now?

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,975 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Landing spots for Jameis have basically been narrowed to the Colts and ourselves. I'd rather have him, the talent we'd have to trade away, and the free agents we can afford over Watson even disregarding the distractions of the lawsuits. To be fair we don't know the level of talent we'd trade away. And if we get Watson for a decade, it's arguably a great deal for US. K Major likes this.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 To be fair we don't know the level of talent we'd trade away. And if we get Watson for a decade, it's arguably a great deal for US. Locking down that position with a dynamic guy like that has to be worth the loss. I never was one to sweat dealing draft picks and, if we lose a few key players then train up the next group I guess - I'm not sure I could be mad about it. Teams go decades trying to find the QB to build around right? SmashMouth and K Major like this.

03-15-2022, 01:39 AM	#198
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,479 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 To be fair we don't know the level of talent we'd trade away. And if we get Watson for a decade, it's arguably a great deal for US. Originally Posted by saintfan Locking down that position with a dynamic guy like that has to be worth the loss. I never was one to sweat dealing draft picks and, if we lose a few key players then train up the next group I guess - I'm not sure I could be mad about it. Teams go decades trying to find the QB to build around right? Can we slip them that Popeyes Sammich guy, Ruiz and some other former first rounder disappointing to us but significant player in their eyes? jeanpierre likes this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by SmashMouth Can we slip them that Popeyes Sammich guy, Ruiz and some other former first rounder disappointing to us but significant player in their eyes? I'm wunderin ifem sammiches play into his cap hit? Either the team is supplying them and they are part of compensation or he asked for a mil a year to cover them.... SmashMouth likes this.

03-15-2022, 08:20 AM	#200
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,492	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 To be fair we don't know the level of talent we'd trade away. And if we get Watson for a decade, it's arguably a great deal for US. Nor do we know what we'll get out of Watson himself. He has a fairly limited body of work. His last season played he managed a 4-12 record as the starting QB. Then he refused to play the following season. He is staring a potential six game suspension in the face now that the criminal angle is out of the way. Houston is demanding young starting players in return ... of their choice. Not to mention the loss of key draft capital. It's a huge gamble that could cripple our franchise for years. I'll still be a huge fan if it happens, but I am extremely concerned that it could blow up in our face.
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