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saintfan 02-20-2022 10:57 AM

Re: Way too early mock draft
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 945274)
Bold prediction!! I don’t think it will happen, but I like the boldness!

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Rugby Saint II 02-20-2022 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 945272)
I think Allen will pull the trigger on a D player in the 1st.

We need so much help on offense that I just don't see that happening. If anything, I believe DA will choose WR of OT. We've spent plenty of picks on defense recently while ignoring the offense and the offense is suffering from it.

AsylumGuido 02-20-2022 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 945272)
I think Allen will pull the trigger on a D player in the 1st.

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 945348)
We need so much help on offense that I just don't see that happening. If anything, I believe DA will choose WR of OT. We've spent plenty of picks on defense recently while ignoring the offense and the offense is suffering from it.

How do we know that Dennis Allen will be the one "pulling the trigger"? While Payton was credited for making the final decisions on draft picks, that is the exception rather than the rule in the NFL, right? The GM usually makes the final decision with input from the scouting department and the coaching staff. We all know Loomis is not a personnel guy, however.

I'm thinking, and hoping, with Payton out of the picture the person in charge of College Player Personnel, Jeff Ireland, will be making the final decisions instead. I suspect Allen will be taking a slightly lesser role in that process than Payton held previously.

saintfan 02-20-2022 12:04 PM

Re: Way too early mock draft
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 945349)
How do we know that Dennis Allen will be the one "pulling the trigger"? While Payton was credited for making the final decisions on draft picks, that is the exception rather than the rule in the NFL, right? The GM usually makes the final decision with input from the scouting department and the coaching staff. We all know Loomis is not a personnel guy, however.

I'm thinking, and hoping, with Payton out of the picture the person in charge of College Player Personnel, Jeff Ireland, will be making the final decisions instead. I suspect Allen will be taking a slightly lesser role in that process than Payton held previously.

Yawn. Who's twitter did you steal this from? I'll check later.

It's different from team to team. Anybody who pays a scintilla of attention to the draft knows this.

But you self-describe as someone who doesn't care about the draft, so, stop wasting everyone's time just so you can chime in.

Just come back in training camp when you'll have a plethora of tweets to steal from...

halloween 65 02-20-2022 01:28 PM

Re: Way too early mock draft
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 945349)
How do we know that Dennis Allen will be the one "pulling the trigger"? While Payton was credited for making the final decisions on draft picks, that is the exception rather than the rule in the NFL, right? The GM usually makes the final decision with input from the scouting department and the coaching staff. We all know Loomis is not a personnel guy, however.

I'm thinking, and hoping, with Payton out of the picture the person in charge of College Player Personnel, Jeff Ireland, will be making the final decisions instead. I suspect Allen will be taking a slightly lesser role in that process than Payton held previously.

Great point about Ireland. The man who has drafted great secondary draft picks going back to his Miami days and here. Allen being a defensive guy and secondary coach at the roots paired with Irelands ( backfield guru) has led me to think their going after a S in the 1st and not having to pay Williams a kings ransom. Also a Kamara trade could go a long way getting us 2 good rb.'s in the draft, so it's like a 2 for 1 type of deal with cheap contracts to boot. In my eyes it's a win win.

Rugby Saint II 02-21-2022 11:19 AM

Re: Way too early mock draft
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 945349)
How do we know that Dennis Allen will be the one "pulling the trigger"? While Payton was credited for making the final decisions on draft picks, that is the exception rather than the rule in the NFL, right? The GM usually makes the final decision with input from the scouting department and the coaching staff. We all know Loomis is not a personnel guy, however.

I'm thinking, and hoping, with Payton out of the picture the person in charge of College Player Personnel, Jeff Ireland, will be making the final decisions instead. I suspect Allen will be taking a slightly lesser role in that process than Payton held previously.

If I recall correctly DA said that he wants to be heavily involved binging in new talent in both the draft and free agency.

AsylumGuido 02-21-2022 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 945409)
If I recall correctly DA said that he wants to be heavily involved binging in new talent in both the draft and free agency.

Yes, he did. I remember him saying that in an interview. That is to be expected, of course. He better be heavily involved. All HC's should be. But, that doesn't mean he'll be making the final decisions like Payton has done for the past decade and a half. At least I hope not. That really needs to be Ireland's job.

lee909 02-23-2022 08:51 PM

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Inc Trades, giving up next years 1sts in both
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 18: Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
Round 1 Pick 24 (ARI): Malik Willis, QB, Liberty
Round 3 Pick 35 (COMP): Jeremy Ruckert, TE, Ohio State
Round 3 Pick 38 (BALT): Dylan Parham, OG/C, Memphis
Round 4 Pick 15: Justyn Ross, WR, Clemson
Round 4 Pick 24 (BALT): Zion Nelson, OT, Miami
Round 5 Pick 18: Zach Charbonnet, RB, UCLA
Round 7 Pick 16: Dareke Young, WR, Lenoir-Rhyne


Round 1 Pick 18: Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
Round 1 Pick 29 (K.C.): Sam Howell, QB, North Carolina
Round 2 Pick 17: Daniel Faalele, OT, Minnesota
Round 3 Pick 34 (COMP): Storm Duck, CB, North Carolina
Round 3 Pick 35 (COMP): Dylan Parham, OG/C, Memphis
Round 4 Pick 15: Isaiah Spiller, RB, Texas A&M
Round 4 Pick 29 (K.C.): Jeremy Ruckert, TE, Ohio State
Round 5 Pick 18: JoJo Domann, ILB/OLB, Nebraska
Round 7 Pick 16: Charleston Rambo, WR, Miami

K Major 02-24-2022 08:56 AM

Re: Way too early mock draft
 
Jameson Williams in the 1st ?

I still think the injury will push him down to Day 2.

Then again, a team (Chiefs, Bills, Rams) with weapons already in place could make a move.

turbo_dog 02-25-2022 03:06 PM

Re: Way too early mock draft
 
I might be alone here, but I like what I've seen from Carson Strong.

If we are talking about second round prospects, I like Strong or S Lewis Cine from Georgia.

The WR crop is so deep, I've seen mocks and simulators with Metchie and Tolbert available in the third round.

Either would be a solid addiction to our corps.


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