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SmashMouth 02-18-2022 09:59 AM

Way too early mock draft
 
I like the #1 pick.

... but not the #2 selection. We need some beef up front. And TE help!

saintfan 02-18-2022 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 945210)
I like the #1 pick.

... but not the #2 selection. We need some beef up front. And TE help!

Man we suck at TE. Fish boy could show up and prove me wrong - I just see him as one of the players who flashes just enough to stay on a roster. I'd be fine if it was somebody else's roster.

Rugby Saint II 02-18-2022 10:30 AM

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As the writer mentioned a few of these guys probably won't be there when we pick. So many needs and so few picks....

K Major 02-18-2022 10:31 AM

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Lol 😂 Fish boy.

saintfan 02-18-2022 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945216)
Lol 😂 Fish boy.

I never can spell his name right. I'm tired of looking it up. When he gets hit he falls like a flopping fish which is why he's always hurt, so, Fish Boy it is...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gmDeljwzlV8/mqdefault.jpg

K Major 02-18-2022 11:20 AM

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Wilson, Burks, London, Olave …all top tier WR’s & Day 1 starters.

One of these guys will be there at #18.

Does Dennis, Pete C and his crew pull the trigger on a WR though?

saintsfan1976 02-18-2022 11:55 AM

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Trautman has a ton of upside so I'm hoping he's less streaky and more consistent in the passing game.

ChrisXVI 02-18-2022 12:11 PM

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Garrett Wilson doesn’t fit the prototype we look for in WR’s: tall, physical, good run blockers. I don’t expect that prototype to change with Payton gone; especially with our new HC wanting to emphasize the run game.

saintfan 02-18-2022 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 945230)
Trautman has a ton of upside so I'm hoping he's less streaky and more consistent in the passing game.

He'll be hurt by game 3. Hide and watch.

:couch:

papz 02-18-2022 12:22 PM

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I think QB is the play for our first pick. Corral/Howell makes the most sense for me. It's a deep WR class so we can wait on that and still get a very good prospect.

saintsfan1976 02-18-2022 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 945233)
He'll be hurt by game 3. Hide and watch.

:couch:

Hide? I don't get it.


Are you predicting hurt as in can't play? Or injured like any other player can be?

What's your over under on his stats this season?

saintsfan1976 02-18-2022 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945225)
Wilson, Burks, London, Olave …all top tier WR’s & Day 1 starters.

One of these guys will be there at #18.

Does Dennis, Pete C and his crew pull the trigger on a WR though?

Between FA and Draft, there seems to be a TON of talent.

It'll be interesting to see how they address the cap and subsequent free agents!

K Major 02-18-2022 12:36 PM

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OT & WR are serious needs.

I wouldn’t rule out drafting another guard either.

And I’m assuming we re sign Jameis as we approach Free Agency.

saintsfan1976 02-18-2022 12:38 PM

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Agreed.

Can't wait to see it all unfold.

Boston Saint 02-18-2022 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 945224)
I never can spell his name right. I'm tired of looking it up. When he gets hit he falls like a flopping fish which is why he's always hurt, so, Fish Boy it is...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gmDeljwzlV8/mqdefault.jpg

He catches the ball like it’s a slippery fish too.

Boston Saint 02-18-2022 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 945231)
Garrett Wilson doesn’t fit the prototype we look for in WR’s: tall, physical, good run blockers. I don’t expect that prototype to change with Payton gone; especially with our new HC wanting to emphasize the run game.

Would love to get a Debo Samuel in the draft.

papz 02-18-2022 12:48 PM

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That's Wan'Dale Robinson.

saintfan 02-18-2022 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 945237)
Hide? I don't get it.


Are you predicting hurt as in can't play? Or injured like any other player can be?

What's your over under on his stats this season?

Hide and watch - just something my grandmother used to say.

What I mean is he is injury prone. Watch the way he hits the ground when he gets tackled. I'm predicting hurt, as in can't play. He has no grace about him.

I'm sure he's a nice guy, don't get me wrong. And he'll flash a great play here and there because he has the tools, I just don't think he's the answer at TE.

saintsfan1976 02-18-2022 01:44 PM

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I guess I haven't paid that close of attention.

While his first two seasons certainly have not lived up to his draft status, I'm still hopeful he can make the leap

darksoul35 02-18-2022 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945225)
Wilson, Burks, London, Olave …all top tier WR’s & Day 1 starters.

One of these guys will be there at #18.

Does Dennis, Pete C and his crew pull the trigger on a WR though?

Ill take any WR but with Thomas coming back I would like to see some speed on the outside instead of a slot.

darksoul35 02-18-2022 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 945247)
That's Wan'Dale Robinson.

As I always say I know Im a Kentucky homer but this kid is the real deal. I live 10 minutes from where he played high school ball and Im absolutely no expert but this kid is as tough as they come and they used him as a RB at Nebraska. He was WR for the Wildcats exclusively last year and did not disapoint in a pro style offense.

Boston Saint 02-18-2022 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 945261)
As I always say I know Im a Kentucky homer but this kid is the real deal. I live 10 minutes from where he played high school ball and Im absolutely no expert but this kid is as tough as they come and they used him as a RB at Nebraska. He was WR for the Wildcats exclusively last year and did not disapoint in a pro style offense.

Deebo Samuel 2.0?!

ChrisXVI 02-18-2022 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 945261)
As I always say I know Im a Kentucky homer but this kid is the real deal. I live 10 minutes from where he played high school ball and Im absolutely no expert but this kid is as tough as they come and they used him as a RB at Nebraska. He was WR for the Wildcats exclusively last year and did not disapoint in a pro style offense.

Fun player! He’s only going to measure in at about 5-8, 180 lbs but he’s a tough runner with A+ agility. It’ll be best if he goes to a team that can properly scheme up plays for him a la Deebo Samuel.

halloween 65 02-18-2022 05:59 PM

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I think Allen will pull the trigger on a D player in the 1st.

Boston Saint 02-18-2022 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 945272)
I think Allen will pull the trigger on a D player in the 1st.

Bold prediction!! I don’t think it will happen, but I like the boldness!

ChrisXVI 02-18-2022 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 945272)
I think Allen will pull the trigger on a D player in the 1st.

I could see them going DT or safety. Whether it’s offense or defense I think it’ll be a very safe pick not a reach or a project.

halloween 65 02-18-2022 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 945276)
I could see them going DT or safety. Whether it’s offense or defense I think it’ll be a very safe pick not a reach or a project.

I'm hoping it's not a reach like you stated. I'm still thinking S.

K Major 02-18-2022 09:20 PM

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A safety in the 1st ? Shades of Kenny Vaccaro.

I’m hoping Dennis re evaluate the offensive woes from 2021 and select a WR or OT in the 1st.

There is speculation Marcus W could get franchise tag 🏷 #2.

darksoul35 02-20-2022 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 945262)
Deebo Samuel 2.0?!

Im not sure Ill go that far but hes nice.

K Major 02-20-2022 10:23 AM

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Jaquan Brisker. S , Penn State

3 year player/2 year starter. Violent tackler, decent range, good blitzer.

Malcolm J has lost 2 steps, long in the tooth.

Jaquan - Day 2 guy (rd 2 or 3).

saintfan 02-20-2022 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 945274)
Bold prediction!! I don’t think it will happen, but I like the boldness!

https://www.bardown.com/polopoly_fs/...620/google.png

Rugby Saint II 02-20-2022 11:01 AM

Re: Way too early mock draft
 
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 945272)
I think Allen will pull the trigger on a D player in the 1st.

We need so much help on offense that I just don't see that happening. If anything, I believe DA will choose WR of OT. We've spent plenty of picks on defense recently while ignoring the offense and the offense is suffering from it.

AsylumGuido 02-20-2022 11:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 945272)
I think Allen will pull the trigger on a D player in the 1st.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 945348)
We need so much help on offense that I just don't see that happening. If anything, I believe DA will choose WR of OT. We've spent plenty of picks on defense recently while ignoring the offense and the offense is suffering from it.

How do we know that Dennis Allen will be the one "pulling the trigger"? While Payton was credited for making the final decisions on draft picks, that is the exception rather than the rule in the NFL, right? The GM usually makes the final decision with input from the scouting department and the coaching staff. We all know Loomis is not a personnel guy, however.

I'm thinking, and hoping, with Payton out of the picture the person in charge of College Player Personnel, Jeff Ireland, will be making the final decisions instead. I suspect Allen will be taking a slightly lesser role in that process than Payton held previously.

saintfan 02-20-2022 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 945349)
How do we know that Dennis Allen will be the one "pulling the trigger"? While Payton was credited for making the final decisions on draft picks, that is the exception rather than the rule in the NFL, right? The GM usually makes the final decision with input from the scouting department and the coaching staff. We all know Loomis is not a personnel guy, however.

I'm thinking, and hoping, with Payton out of the picture the person in charge of College Player Personnel, Jeff Ireland, will be making the final decisions instead. I suspect Allen will be taking a slightly lesser role in that process than Payton held previously.

Yawn. Who's twitter did you steal this from? I'll check later.

It's different from team to team. Anybody who pays a scintilla of attention to the draft knows this.

But you self-describe as someone who doesn't care about the draft, so, stop wasting everyone's time just so you can chime in.

Just come back in training camp when you'll have a plethora of tweets to steal from...

halloween 65 02-20-2022 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 945349)
How do we know that Dennis Allen will be the one "pulling the trigger"? While Payton was credited for making the final decisions on draft picks, that is the exception rather than the rule in the NFL, right? The GM usually makes the final decision with input from the scouting department and the coaching staff. We all know Loomis is not a personnel guy, however.

I'm thinking, and hoping, with Payton out of the picture the person in charge of College Player Personnel, Jeff Ireland, will be making the final decisions instead. I suspect Allen will be taking a slightly lesser role in that process than Payton held previously.

Great point about Ireland. The man who has drafted great secondary draft picks going back to his Miami days and here. Allen being a defensive guy and secondary coach at the roots paired with Irelands ( backfield guru) has led me to think their going after a S in the 1st and not having to pay Williams a kings ransom. Also a Kamara trade could go a long way getting us 2 good rb.'s in the draft, so it's like a 2 for 1 type of deal with cheap contracts to boot. In my eyes it's a win win.

Rugby Saint II 02-21-2022 11:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 945349)
How do we know that Dennis Allen will be the one "pulling the trigger"? While Payton was credited for making the final decisions on draft picks, that is the exception rather than the rule in the NFL, right? The GM usually makes the final decision with input from the scouting department and the coaching staff. We all know Loomis is not a personnel guy, however.

I'm thinking, and hoping, with Payton out of the picture the person in charge of College Player Personnel, Jeff Ireland, will be making the final decisions instead. I suspect Allen will be taking a slightly lesser role in that process than Payton held previously.

If I recall correctly DA said that he wants to be heavily involved binging in new talent in both the draft and free agency.

AsylumGuido 02-21-2022 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 945409)
If I recall correctly DA said that he wants to be heavily involved binging in new talent in both the draft and free agency.

Yes, he did. I remember him saying that in an interview. That is to be expected, of course. He better be heavily involved. All HC's should be. But, that doesn't mean he'll be making the final decisions like Payton has done for the past decade and a half. At least I hope not. That really needs to be Ireland's job.

lee909 02-23-2022 08:51 PM

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Inc Trades, giving up next years 1sts in both
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 18: Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
Round 1 Pick 24 (ARI): Malik Willis, QB, Liberty
Round 3 Pick 35 (COMP): Jeremy Ruckert, TE, Ohio State
Round 3 Pick 38 (BALT): Dylan Parham, OG/C, Memphis
Round 4 Pick 15: Justyn Ross, WR, Clemson
Round 4 Pick 24 (BALT): Zion Nelson, OT, Miami
Round 5 Pick 18: Zach Charbonnet, RB, UCLA
Round 7 Pick 16: Dareke Young, WR, Lenoir-Rhyne


Round 1 Pick 18: Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
Round 1 Pick 29 (K.C.): Sam Howell, QB, North Carolina
Round 2 Pick 17: Daniel Faalele, OT, Minnesota
Round 3 Pick 34 (COMP): Storm Duck, CB, North Carolina
Round 3 Pick 35 (COMP): Dylan Parham, OG/C, Memphis
Round 4 Pick 15: Isaiah Spiller, RB, Texas A&M
Round 4 Pick 29 (K.C.): Jeremy Ruckert, TE, Ohio State
Round 5 Pick 18: JoJo Domann, ILB/OLB, Nebraska
Round 7 Pick 16: Charleston Rambo, WR, Miami

K Major 02-24-2022 08:56 AM

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Jameson Williams in the 1st ?

I still think the injury will push him down to Day 2.

Then again, a team (Chiefs, Bills, Rams) with weapons already in place could make a move.

turbo_dog 02-25-2022 03:06 PM

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I might be alone here, but I like what I've seen from Carson Strong.

If we are talking about second round prospects, I like Strong or S Lewis Cine from Georgia.

The WR crop is so deep, I've seen mocks and simulators with Metchie and Tolbert available in the third round.

Either would be a solid addiction to our corps.


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