Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators

lee909 · 02-23-2022, 09:26 PM

Don't like it
Leaves nobody accountable, at least to the outside world which just leads to speculation. Has to be a head honcho who shoulders it lays on. To be perfectly honest really not like much that has been done this offseason. Just looks like trying to keep the gang together without the actual person who ran the show, added to losing the onfield head a year earlier. Kind of feels like a band losing its Singer and Guitarist but carrying on without them

saintsfan1976 · 02-24-2022, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Don't like it
Leaves nobody accountable, at least to the outside world which just leads to speculation. Has to be a head honcho who shoulders it lays on. To be perfectly honest really not like much that has been done this offseason. Just looks like trying to keep the gang together without the actual person who ran the show, added to losing the onfield head a year earlier. Kind of feels like a band losing its Singer and Guitarist but carrying on without them

The head honcho is DA. He's made that clear. You're assuming a lack of accountability because there's no single person label "defensive coordinator". In fact, it's not a new approach and may just work out best for all involved - including the players.

Time will tell.

AsylumGuido · 02-24-2022, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

The head honcho is DA. He's made that clear. You're assuming a lack of accountability because there's no single person label "defensive coordinator". In fact, it's not a new approach and may just work out best for all involved - including the players.

Time will tell.

Absolutely correct! THIS is what I've been attempting to point out. Some are getting fixated on the title Defensive Coordinator in the traditional sense. To be accurate, in the traditional sense on the current staff Dennis Allen remains the defensive coordinator. Richard and Nielsen are basically senior defensive assistants with responsibility over secondary and defensive line respectively.

If Sean Payton was to have named a co-offensive coordinator with Pete Carmichael nobody would have had a single concern because they all knew Payton was completely in charge of the offense. The same can be said for Allen.

saintfan · 02-24-2022, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Absolutely correct! THIS is what I've been attempting to point out. Some are getting fixated on the title Defensive Coordinator in the traditional sense. To be accurate, in the traditional sense on the current staff Dennis Allen remains the defensive coordinator. Richard and Nielsen are basically senior defensive assistants with responsibility over secondary and defensive line respectively.

If Sean Payton was to have named a co-offensive coordinator with Pete Carmichael nobody would have had a single concern because they all knew Payton was completely in charge of the offense. The same can be said for Allen.

Wrong. "Some", which is antagonistic by the way, because it's vague (say what you mean mr passive aggressive) do not like the idea of having multiple 'leaders', because 'some' understand it is generally better to have the buck stop somewhere - otherwise the kid can play one parent off the other.

The only reason you're okay with it is because your a sheep. Had DA said having dual defensive coordinators is an absurd idea you'd be in here defending that. You have no spine.

What do you know about leadership speedo - not including twitter?

saintfan · 02-24-2022, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Don't like it
Leaves nobody accountable, at least to the outside world which just leads to speculation. Has to be a head honcho who shoulders it lays on. To be perfectly honest really not like much that has been done this offseason. Just looks like trying to keep the gang together without the actual person who ran the show, added to losing the onfield head a year earlier. Kind of feels like a band losing its Singer and Guitarist but carrying on without them

Precisely accurate. It's definitely a style of 'leadership' that the 'lit' population is gravitating to, and it's the lack of accountability that draws them in.

Speedo can be our one-armed drummer...

02-23-2022, 09:26 PM	#1
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators Don't like it Leaves nobody accountable, at least to the outside world which just leads to speculation. Has to be a head honcho who shoulders it lays on. To be perfectly honest really not like much that has been done this offseason. Just looks like trying to keep the gang together without the actual person who ran the show, added to losing the onfield head a year earlier. Kind of feels like a band losing its Singer and Guitarist but carrying on without them saintfan, jnormand, Rugby Saint II and 3 others like this.

02-24-2022, 04:49 AM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,056 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators Originally Posted by lee909 Don't like it Leaves nobody accountable, at least to the outside world which just leads to speculation. Has to be a head honcho who shoulders it lays on. To be perfectly honest really not like much that has been done this offseason. Just looks like trying to keep the gang together without the actual person who ran the show, added to losing the onfield head a year earlier. Kind of feels like a band losing its Singer and Guitarist but carrying on without them The head honcho is DA. He's made that clear. You're assuming a lack of accountability because there's no single person label "defensive coordinator". In fact, it's not a new approach and may just work out best for all involved - including the players. Time will tell. AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and SaintGnome like this.

02-24-2022, 08:13 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 The head honcho is DA. He's made that clear. You're assuming a lack of accountability because there's no single person label "defensive coordinator". In fact, it's not a new approach and may just work out best for all involved - including the players. Time will tell. Absolutely correct! THIS is what I've been attempting to point out. Some are getting fixated on the title Defensive Coordinator in the traditional sense. To be accurate, in the traditional sense on the current staff Dennis Allen remains the defensive coordinator. Richard and Nielsen are basically senior defensive assistants with responsibility over secondary and defensive line respectively. If Sean Payton was to have named a co-offensive coordinator with Pete Carmichael nobody would have had a single concern because they all knew Payton was completely in charge of the offense. The same can be said for Allen.

02-24-2022, 08:55 AM	#4
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Absolutely correct! THIS is what I've been attempting to point out. Some are getting fixated on the title Defensive Coordinator in the traditional sense. To be accurate, in the traditional sense on the current staff Dennis Allen remains the defensive coordinator. Richard and Nielsen are basically senior defensive assistants with responsibility over secondary and defensive line respectively. If Sean Payton was to have named a co-offensive coordinator with Pete Carmichael nobody would have had a single concern because they all knew Payton was completely in charge of the offense. The same can be said for Allen. Wrong. "Some", which is antagonistic by the way, because it's vague (say what you mean mr passive aggressive) do not like the idea of having multiple 'leaders', because 'some' understand it is generally better to have the buck stop somewhere - otherwise the kid can play one parent off the other. The only reason you're okay with it is because your a sheep. Had DA said having dual defensive coordinators is an absurd idea you'd be in here defending that. You have no spine. What do you know about leadership speedo - not including twitter?

02-24-2022, 10:12 PM	#5
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators Originally Posted by lee909 Don't like it Leaves nobody accountable, at least to the outside world which just leads to speculation. Has to be a head honcho who shoulders it lays on. To be perfectly honest really not like much that has been done this offseason. Just looks like trying to keep the gang together without the actual person who ran the show, added to losing the onfield head a year earlier. Kind of feels like a band losing its Singer and Guitarist but carrying on without them Precisely accurate. It's definitely a style of 'leadership' that the 'lit' population is gravitating to, and it's the lack of accountability that draws them in. Speedo can be our one-armed drummer...