Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators

SmashMouth · 02-22-2022, 07:00 AM

The Saints are promoting defensive assistants Ryan Nielsen and Kris Richard, Jeremy Fowler of ESPN reports. Nielsen and Richard could become co-defensive coordinators.

New Saints head coach Dennis Allen, who earned a promotion from defensive coordinator after Sean Payton stepped away, continues to finalize his staff.

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AsylumGuido · 02-22-2022, 08:30 AM

Sweet! Now we can get moving on personnel decisions. The fun off-season parts are about to start.

saintfan · 02-22-2022, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Sweet! Now we can get moving on personnel decisions. The fun off-season parts are about to start.

From the guy who says he doesn't pay attention to the draft...

K Major · 02-22-2022, 10:20 AM

Meh ...

Minnesota had "co-coordinators" (Zimmer/Patterson) for their defense in 2020/2021 - finished 17th and 24th respectfully.

I'd prefer they gave the title to one guy and let's geaux.

Never mind me, I'm just a couch coach

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SmashMouth · 02-22-2022, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Meh ...

Minnesota had "co-coordinators" (Zimmer/Patterson) for their defense in 2020/2021 - finished 17th and 24th respectfully.

I'd prefer they gave the title to one guy and let's geaux.

Never mind me, I'm just a couch coach .

Casting couch coach hall of famer?

AsylumGuido · 02-22-2022, 01:06 PM

A really, really good talk on the co-coordinator concept for the Saints.

New Orleans Saints Co-Defensive Coordinator Possibility: Can It Work? - YouTube

AsylumGuido · 02-22-2022, 01:40 PM

For those not taking the time to watch the above video ...

... Ross Jackson explains how the two DC concept can work successfully within the Saints organization. Essentially, Nielsen retains direct control over the defensive front while Richard does the same with the secondary. It becomes Nielsen's job to develop the run defense for the upcoming game as Richard does the same for the passing defense. He explains that there will obviously be some overlap of the two, but given that they have already been working together in the past, that should not be an issue. Play-calling duties, however, could be an issue one might say, but with Allen handling those duties that eliminates that hurdle. Placing one of them in the box upstairs and having the other on the sideline would also maximize gameday coverage.

Minnesota tried the two DC approach recently with Zimmer doing the play-calling from the HC position, but the Vikings had issues with quality in the secondary and veteran leadership on the defensive side of the ball. Injuries also played a major factor in the failure. The Saints have excellent defensive leadership at every level, Jackson points out, with Jordan, Davis, and Jenkins helping with the cohesion of the units.

Rugby Saint II · 02-23-2022, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Casting couch coach hall of famer?

Ah yes, the casting couch was popular with producers and young actresses before the me too movement.

AsylumGuido · 02-23-2022, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Ah yes, the casting couch was popular with producers and young actresses before the me too movement.

More popular with the producers than the actresses from what I have ascertained.

papz · 02-22-2022, 10:32 AM

I agree to a certain extent but if Allen is still calling all the plays, it doesn't really matter how many co-DC's they name.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators Meh ... Minnesota had "co-coordinators" (Zimmer/Patterson) for their defense in 2020/2021 - finished 17th and 24th respectfully. I'd prefer they gave the title to one guy and let's geaux. Never mind me, I'm just a couch coach . saintfan, jnormand, MatthewT and 7 others like this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,551 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators Originally Posted by K Major Meh ... Minnesota had "co-coordinators" (Zimmer/Patterson) for their defense in 2020/2021 - finished 17th and 24th respectfully. I'd prefer they gave the title to one guy and let's geaux. Never mind me, I'm just a couch coach . Casting couch coach hall of famer? jnormand, Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators For those not taking the time to watch the above video ... ... Ross Jackson explains how the two DC concept can work successfully within the Saints organization. Essentially, Nielsen retains direct control over the defensive front while Richard does the same with the secondary. It becomes Nielsen's job to develop the run defense for the upcoming game as Richard does the same for the passing defense. He explains that there will obviously be some overlap of the two, but given that they have already been working together in the past, that should not be an issue. Play-calling duties, however, could be an issue one might say, but with Allen handling those duties that eliminates that hurdle. Placing one of them in the box upstairs and having the other on the sideline would also maximize gameday coverage. Minnesota tried the two DC approach recently with Zimmer doing the play-calling from the HC position, but the Vikings had issues with quality in the secondary and veteran leadership on the defensive side of the ball. Injuries also played a major factor in the failure. The Saints have excellent defensive leadership at every level, Jackson points out, with Jordan, Davis, and Jenkins helping with the cohesion of the units.
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,133	Re: Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators Originally Posted by SmashMouth Casting couch coach hall of famer? Ah yes, the casting couch was popular with producers and young actresses before the me too movement. jnormand and SmashMouth like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Ah yes, the casting couch was popular with producers and young actresses before the me too movement. More popular with the producers than the actresses from what I have ascertained.

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,774	Re: Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators I agree to a certain extent but if Allen is still calling all the plays, it doesn't really matter how many co-DC's they name. RailBoss and leilung like this.