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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by MatthewT Saints need to stop playing with free agent TE's and find them in the draft. I do like the potential of Johnson and I believe Trautman still has a chance of becoming good. I would like ...

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Old 03-08-2022, 06:08 PM   #1
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Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints

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Saints need to stop playing with free agent TE's and find them in the draft. I do like the potential of Johnson and I believe Trautman still has a chance of becoming good. I would like the Saints to bring back Jimmy Graham if he becomes available, he could be valuable as a 3rd option and as a red zone threat.

This except the Jimmy G part
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Old 03-08-2022, 06:21 PM   #2
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This except the Jimmy G part
Yeah. I don't think Graham has it anymore. Brees and Payton made him what he was at his peak.
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Old 03-09-2022, 06:32 PM   #3
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Yeah. I don't think Graham has it anymore. Brees and Payton made him what he was at his peak.
Yeah, but more because it seemed pretty obvious that he quit on us in his last year when he lost his mediation to be considered a WR instead of TE. Low character.
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Old 03-09-2022, 08:38 PM   #4
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Yeah, but more because it seemed pretty obvious that he quit on us in his last year when he lost his mediation to be considered a WR instead of TE. Low character.
That wasn't HIS mediation. It was the NFLPA using his franchise designation as a legal challenge that they had been looking for as a challengeable situation for several years. It either had to be a TE versus WR or a DE versus a LB and his just happened to be the one that first fit the bill. His character had nothing to do with it at all. At no point did he ever personally claim to be a WR. Not one single time. It was all the NFLPA versus the NFL. He simply sat back and signed a deal as the TE that he always claimed to be as soon as the case was over.

I kept up with the entire case from beginning to end. While some people are into the draft and others into the combine and yet others are into free agency during the off-season, I have always been into the contract side of the NFL business.

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Old 03-09-2022, 10:09 PM   #5
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That wasn't HIS mediation. It was the NFLPA using his franchise designation as a legal challenge that they had been looking for as a challengeable situation for several years. It either had to be a TE versus WR or a DE versus a LB and his just happened to be the one that first fit the bill. His character had nothing to do with it at all. At no point did he ever personally claim to be a WR. Not one single time. It was all the NFLPA versus the NFL. He simply sat back and signed a deal as the TE that he always claimed to be as soon as the case was over.

I kept up with the entire case from beginning to end. While some people are into the draft and others into the combine and yet others are into free agency during the off-season, I have always been into the contract side of the NFL business.
As I have told you many times over he could have stopped that whole mess any time he wanted to. Fanboys like you are blinded...or just plain dumb.
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As I have told you many times over he could have stopped that whole mess any time he wanted to. Fanboys like you are blinded...or just plain dumb.
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FANBOY!!!! fitting for guido
Wow! Did he hurt your feelings?
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Old 03-10-2022, 02:07 PM   #8
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That wasn't HIS mediation. It was the NFLPA using his franchise designation as a legal challenge that they had been looking for as a challengeable situation for several years. It either had to be a TE versus WR or a DE versus a LB and his just happened to be the one that first fit the bill. His character had nothing to do with it at all. At no point did he ever personally claim to be a WR. Not one single time. It was all the NFLPA versus the NFL. He simply sat back and signed a deal as the TE that he always claimed to be as soon as the case was over.

I kept up with the entire case from beginning to end. While some people are into the draft and others into the combine and yet others are into free agency during the off-season, I have always been into the contract side of the NFL business.
The point was he quit on us, doesn't really matter who initiated the mediation.
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Old 03-10-2022, 02:41 PM   #9
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The point was he quit on us, doesn't really matter who initiated the mediation.
Quit on us? That was 2014, right? He was targeted 125 times and caught 85 passes for a 68% clip that season, the highest catch ratio of his career with 100 or more targets. He scored ten TD's. He had 889 yards receiving, a number he only topped once in the remainder of his career (2016 with 923). I guess I missed where he quit on us. We did quit on him, however, when we traded him the following off-season. Seattle wanted him instead of Kenny Stills in deal.

I do know a lot of people were pissed off about the challenge brought about by the NFLPA blaming it on Graham instead, not that it made any difference.

Whatever, he's a shell of what he was with the Saints.

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Quit on us? That was 2014, right? He was targeted 125 times and caught 85 passes for a 68% clip that season, the highest catch ratio of his career with 100 or more targets. He scored ten TD's. He had 889 yards receiving, a number he only topped once in the remainder of his career (2016 with 923). I guess I missed where he quit on us. We did quit on him, however, when we traded him the following off-season. Seattle wanted him instead of Kenny Stills in deal.

I do know a lot of people were pissed off about the challenge brought about by the NFLPA blaming it on Graham instead, not that it made any difference.

Whatever, he's a shell of what he was with the Saints.
I guess you did just miss it then. Toward the end of the season after the decision came down, I remember seeing game film of him giving up on routes and obviously not engaged.
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