Deshaun Watson to Saints?

saintsfan1976 · 03-12-2022, 09:23 AM

Some great takes all around from you guys.

I can see it being a defining move that's worth the investment.

I can also see us staying pat with Jameis and drafting well again after adding a handful of mid tier FAs.

I'm leaning toward the latter just because that seems to have been the MO all offseason.

FinSaint · 03-12-2022, 09:28 AM

I'd be fine with the Saints trading away their next 4-5 1st round picks for Watson if he wanted to come to NOLA, and if they could make it work within the cap.

I've never been a huge fan of his even before all the drama, but he is probably a top 5 QB in the league and could solve the problem with the most important position for the next decade.

Allen failed in part with the Raiders because he didn't have a franchise QB to lean on to, and even if his position is now more secure - I don't think he wants to repeat past failures.

Rugby Saint II · 03-12-2022, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I'd be fine with the Saints trading away their next 4-5 1st round picks for Watson if he wanted to come to NOLA, and if they could make it work within the cap.

I've never been a huge fan of his even before all the drama, but he is probably a top 5 QB in the league and could solve the problem with the most important position for the next decade.

Allen failed in part with the Raiders because he didn't have a franchise QB to lean on to, and even if his position is now more secure - I don't think he wants to repeat past failures.

I'd be fine with Watson. Giving away four or five first round picks isn't what a new coach needs to establish "his team" by being handcuffed in the first round. Dennis Allen needs all of those picks to build his team.

I wasn't a fan when he came here but I like the effort from Winston on and off the field. Winston can lead this team to the playoffs or deeper and we can use all those picks on one or two first round QB's with ammunition left for trades still in our pockets.

FinSaint · 03-12-2022, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I'd be fine with Watson. Giving away four or five first round picks isn't what a new coach needs to establish "his team" by being handcuffed in the first round. Dennis Allen needs all of those picks to build his team.

I could agree in theory, but Allen inherited a team that is already built for success, and he undoubtedly was heavily involved in that process at least on the defensive side.

So it is, at least partly, already "his team."

You can always find ways to acquire additional 1st round picks, and you can certainly retool a winning team with picks from rounds 2 to 7. Add to that the UDFA and I don't think trading away the 1st round picks would be such a big deal IF adding Watson would produce another SB win.

Boston Saint · 03-12-2022, 10:12 AM

I was just watching Longhorn Baseball Network and they flashed A headline across the bottom of the screen: “Panthers plan to aggressively pursue Deshaun Watson”. Make of that what you will.

K Major · 03-12-2022, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I was just watching Longhorn Baseball Network and they flashed A headline across the bottom of the screen: “Panthers plan to aggressively pursue Deshaun Watson”. Make of that what you will.

Desean has made it crystal clear that he wants to play for a contender, a team with a good O line a good defense and Head coach.

Matt Rhule has been terrible (5-11, 5-12) since hired as HC & their o line ranked 31st last season

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I'll be inclined to believe he'll pass on the Kittens.

My guess is that he will land in Pittsburgh with weapons & a proven organization and HC.

Boston Saint · 03-12-2022, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Desean has made it crystal clear that he wants to play for a contender, a team with a good O line a good defense and Head coach.

Matt Rhule has been terrible (5-11, 5-12) since hired as HC & their o line ranked 31st last season .

I'll be inclined to believe he'll pass on the Kittens.

My guess is that he will land in Pittsburgh with weapons & a proven organization and HC.

Good points.

K Major · 03-12-2022, 01:01 PM

Drafting a QB in the first rd is essentially playing the lotto.

HUGE gamble.

jeanpierre · 03-12-2022, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Drafting a QB in the first rd is essentially playing the lotto.

HUGE gamble.

Can't win if you don't play. But your point is well-founded.

jeanpierre · 03-12-2022, 01:41 PM

03-12-2022, 09:23 AM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,037 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Some great takes all around from you guys. I can see it being a defining move that's worth the investment. I can also see us staying pat with Jameis and drafting well again after adding a handful of mid tier FAs. I'm leaning toward the latter just because that seems to have been the MO all offseason. AsylumGuido, jeanpierre and Rugby Saint II like this.

03-12-2022, 09:28 AM	#2
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? I'd be fine with the Saints trading away their next 4-5 1st round picks for Watson if he wanted to come to NOLA, and if they could make it work within the cap. I've never been a huge fan of his even before all the drama, but he is probably a top 5 QB in the league and could solve the problem with the most important position for the next decade. Allen failed in part with the Raiders because he didn't have a franchise QB to lean on to, and even if his position is now more secure - I don't think he wants to repeat past failures.
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03-12-2022, 01:46 PM	#3
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,167	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by FinSaint I'd be fine with the Saints trading away their next 4-5 1st round picks for Watson if he wanted to come to NOLA, and if they could make it work within the cap. I've never been a huge fan of his even before all the drama, but he is probably a top 5 QB in the league and could solve the problem with the most important position for the next decade. Allen failed in part with the Raiders because he didn't have a franchise QB to lean on to, and even if his position is now more secure - I don't think he wants to repeat past failures. I'd be fine with Watson. Giving away four or five first round picks isn't what a new coach needs to establish "his team" by being handcuffed in the first round. Dennis Allen needs all of those picks to build his team. I wasn't a fan when he came here but I like the effort from Winston on and off the field. Winston can lead this team to the playoffs or deeper and we can use all those picks on one or two first round QB's with ammunition left for trades still in our pockets. jnormand, saintsfan1976, stickman and 4 others like this.

03-12-2022, 04:08 PM	#4
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I'd be fine with Watson. Giving away four or five first round picks isn't what a new coach needs to establish "his team" by being handcuffed in the first round. Dennis Allen needs all of those picks to build his team. I could agree in theory, but Allen inherited a team that is already built for success, and he undoubtedly was heavily involved in that process at least on the defensive side. So it is, at least partly, already "his team." You can always find ways to acquire additional 1st round picks, and you can certainly retool a winning team with picks from rounds 2 to 7. Add to that the UDFA and I don't think trading away the 1st round picks would be such a big deal IF adding Watson would produce another SB win.

03-12-2022, 10:12 AM	#5
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? I was just watching Longhorn Baseball Network and they flashed A headline across the bottom of the screen: “Panthers plan to aggressively pursue Deshaun Watson”. Make of that what you will.

03-12-2022, 10:24 AM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by Boston Saint I was just watching Longhorn Baseball Network and they flashed A headline across the bottom of the screen: “Panthers plan to aggressively pursue Deshaun Watson”. Make of that what you will. Desean has made it crystal clear that he wants to play for a contender, a team with a good O line a good defense and Head coach. Matt Rhule has been terrible (5-11, 5-12) since hired as HC & their o line ranked 31st last season . I'll be inclined to believe he'll pass on the Kittens. My guess is that he will land in Pittsburgh with weapons & a proven organization and HC. RailBoss and saintsfan1976 like this.

03-12-2022, 03:52 PM	#7
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by K Major Desean has made it crystal clear that he wants to play for a contender, a team with a good O line a good defense and Head coach. Matt Rhule has been terrible (5-11, 5-12) since hired as HC & their o line ranked 31st last season . I'll be inclined to believe he'll pass on the Kittens. My guess is that he will land in Pittsburgh with weapons & a proven organization and HC. Good points.

03-12-2022, 01:01 PM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Drafting a QB in the first rd is essentially playing the lotto. HUGE gamble. jnormand, saintsfan1976 and jeanpierre like this.

03-12-2022, 01:41 PM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by K Major Drafting a QB in the first rd is essentially playing the lotto. HUGE gamble. Can't win if you don't play. But your point is well-founded. jnormand likes this.

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