Deshaun Watson to Saints?

rezburna · 03-19-2022, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

How can we criticize the terms that the Saints offered if we don't know what those terms were? Also, clearly the Saints' FO had defined limits as to what they were willing (or capable) to offer, and weren't willing to offer what the Browns did.

I really don't think the players supposedly involved and made aware of it hold a grudge or let hurt feelings to linger on. They are professionals and know what the deal is, and entering the FA period all of them udoubtedly, at least subconsciously, prepare for the possibility that they are switching teams.

Now, what happened with Mayfield and Ryan is different, especially the situation with Ryan.

You are correct that probably most of the anxiety created by the situation was amongst the fans, but that is nothing the Saints' FO should concern themselves with.

Very true. Saints “fans” were heavily trolling CJ about being traded and telling him he’s not worth more than Watson. They basically told him he was dispensable. We’re having conversations about the front office but with social media the players hear the people loud and clear. Like I said before, y’all don’t think Marcus Williams heard all the hate? Michael Thomas definitely hears it. So when these players say **** it and dip nobody can really be mad. Fans don’t often have loyalty to players.

FinSaint · 03-19-2022, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Very true. Saints “fans” were heavily trolling CJ about being traded and telling him he’s not worth more than Watson. They basically told him he was dispensable. We’re having conversations about the front office but with social media the players hear the people loud and clear. Like I said before, y’all don’t think Marcus Williams heard all the hate? Michael Thomas definitely hears it. So when these players say **** it and dip nobody can really be mad. Fans don’t often have loyalty to players.

Exactly, and in my opinion, the Saints have shown by their past actions that they are loyal to their foundational players. On the other hand, they don't hesitate to ship out those who they feel are disruptive (right or wrong) as was the case with Cooks, Stills and Hicks.

It's a business, and players are commodities for the franchises, which is why fans should never be upset when players don't take a "hometown discount" to play for less than what they could get on the open market.

Most, if not all, of us are first and foremost fans of the team, and fandom of individual players can change greatly with their performance on the field, actions off the field and where they play. Same goes for the coaches and the front office. It's a shame some feel the need to seek out these individuals and vent their frustrations directly at them.

03-19-2022, 12:45 PM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,126	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by FinSaint How can we criticize the terms that the Saints offered if we don't know what those terms were? Also, clearly the Saints' FO had defined limits as to what they were willing (or capable) to offer, and weren't willing to offer what the Browns did. I really don't think the players supposedly involved and made aware of it hold a grudge or let hurt feelings to linger on. They are professionals and know what the deal is, and entering the FA period all of them udoubtedly, at least subconsciously, prepare for the possibility that they are switching teams. Now, what happened with Mayfield and Ryan is different, especially the situation with Ryan. You are correct that probably most of the anxiety created by the situation was amongst the fans, but that is nothing the Saints' FO should concern themselves with. Very true. Saints “fans” were heavily trolling CJ about being traded and telling him he’s not worth more than Watson. They basically told him he was dispensable. We’re having conversations about the front office but with social media the players hear the people loud and clear. Like I said before, y’all don’t think Marcus Williams heard all the hate? Michael Thomas definitely hears it. So when these players say **** it and dip nobody can really be mad. Fans don’t often have loyalty to players.

03-19-2022, 01:50 PM	#2
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by rezburna Very true. Saints “fans” were heavily trolling CJ about being traded and telling him he’s not worth more than Watson. They basically told him he was dispensable. We’re having conversations about the front office but with social media the players hear the people loud and clear. Like I said before, y’all don’t think Marcus Williams heard all the hate? Michael Thomas definitely hears it. So when these players say **** it and dip nobody can really be mad. Fans don’t often have loyalty to players. Exactly, and in my opinion, the Saints have shown by their past actions that they are loyal to their foundational players. On the other hand, they don't hesitate to ship out those who they feel are disruptive (right or wrong) as was the case with Cooks, Stills and Hicks. It's a business, and players are commodities for the franchises, which is why fans should never be upset when players don't take a "hometown discount" to play for less than what they could get on the open market. Most, if not all, of us are first and foremost fans of the team, and fandom of individual players can change greatly with their performance on the field, actions off the field and where they play. Same goes for the coaches and the front office. It's a shame some feel the need to seek out these individuals and vent their frustrations directly at them.
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