Reports: 'Taysom Hill experiment at quarterback over' for the Saints

K Major · 03-19-2022, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Does the dead money change if he’s not listed as a Qb? I know the contract was structured in such a way that he would make significantly more if he played X amount of games as Qb.

Not sure of the exact details but good luck finding a "trade partner" with his cap implications.

rezburna · 03-19-2022, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

That dead money cap hit would sting though.

Head scratcher on Taysom's contract & same goes for Tumbleweed Andrus Peat.

We should have never paid him the way we did. Payton was crazy for that one.

neugey · 03-19-2022, 05:16 PM

I'd like to see Taysom put most of his work at TE/h-back and still be a threat on the QB Power run plays.

dizzle88 · 03-19-2022, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

I'd like to see Taysom put most of his work at TE/h-back and still be a threat on the QB Power run plays.

Agreed, he could do some real damage in our offense as a hybrid TE and H back.

AsylumGuido · 03-19-2022, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Agreed, he could do some real damage in our offense as a hybrid TE and H back.

That's the role I'm looking at for him, too. It's a very real need right now and he clearly has the skillset to excel at the position(s).

GeauxForMore · 03-19-2022, 06:16 PM

I hope so. Taysom has so much talent to help us in different ways......just not QB...........has Winston signed yet!!!!!!!

SaintGnome · 03-19-2022, 07:32 PM

"but it may also mean fewer “Taysom Hill packages” on offense and swapping of signal callers throughout games"
OK, this doesn't make any sense. We tried to get a running QB, didn't, so now we'll not use packages for our current (pass/run type) QB? That doesn't make sense to me or am I missing something?

lee909 · 03-19-2022, 07:43 PM

Should have moved to FB/TE ages ago. He isn't and never will be a top 15 QB.
And Winston will only maybe at best crack into the top 10/12
For all the good things he did last year Kamara looked unimpressed with him plenty, missing short passes, often throwing over his head.

BakoSaint · 03-19-2022, 10:09 PM

Good. Maybe we can end the Andrus Peat at offensive guard experiment too. Now its time to see if Taysom Hill is the next Jahvid Best, Coby Fleener, or Demaryius Thomas.

lee909 · 03-20-2022, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Good. Maybe we can end the Andrus Peat at offensive guard experiment too. Now its time to see if Taysom Hill is the next Jahvid Best, Coby Fleener, or Demaryius Thomas.

Not a chance, at least not without eating huge dead money 16.9ml cap hit next year, all but 1.3ml is guaranteed.

For all those saying next years cap is easy
As of projected now

15ml(on a projected 20ml rise for 2023) over with 33 players under contract

CGJ
McCoy
Harty
Ingram
Tuttle
Calloway
Throckmorten

added Davenport,Onyemata,Kpassagnon who deals void

You better belive its more of the same next year and Cam,Peats contracts and getting the restructured treatment. They will be on the roster well past being worth what they will be paid.

The roster is far too top heavy
6 players are taking over 130ml of the 225ml cap. With Cam and Thomas taking over 25ml each

Oh all this is with no LT or QB on the roster

03-19-2022, 09:20 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Reports: 'Taysom Hill experiment at quarterback over' for the Saints Originally Posted by The Dude Does the dead money change if he’s not listed as a Qb? I know the contract was structured in such a way that he would make significantly more if he played X amount of games as Qb. Not sure of the exact details but good luck finding a "trade partner" with his cap implications.

03-19-2022, 10:15 PM	#2
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: Reports: 'Taysom Hill experiment at quarterback over' for the Saints Originally Posted by K Major That dead money cap hit would sting though. Head scratcher on Taysom's contract & same goes for Tumbleweed Andrus Peat. We should have never paid him the way we did. Payton was crazy for that one. RailBoss, Crusader, leilung and 4 others like this.

03-19-2022, 05:16 PM	#3
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,819 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Reports: 'Taysom Hill experiment at quarterback over' for the Saints I'd like to see Taysom put most of his work at TE/h-back and still be a threat on the QB Power run plays. Rugby Saint II and dizzle88 like this.

03-19-2022, 05:42 PM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Reports: 'Taysom Hill experiment at quarterback over' for the Saints Originally Posted by neugey I'd like to see Taysom put most of his work at TE/h-back and still be a threat on the QB Power run plays. Agreed, he could do some real damage in our offense as a hybrid TE and H back. AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Reports: 'Taysom Hill experiment at quarterback over' for the Saints Originally Posted by dizzle88 Agreed, he could do some real damage in our offense as a hybrid TE and H back. That's the role I'm looking at for him, too. It's a very real need right now and he clearly has the skillset to excel at the position(s).

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GeauxForMore 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 590	Re: Reports: 'Taysom Hill experiment at quarterback over' for the Saints I hope so. Taysom has so much talent to help us in different ways......just not QB...........has Winston signed yet!!!!!!! SmashMouth likes this.

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SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Reports: 'Taysom Hill experiment at quarterback over' for the Saints "but it may also mean fewer “Taysom Hill packages” on offense and swapping of signal callers throughout games" OK, this doesn't make any sense. We tried to get a running QB, didn't, so now we'll not use packages for our current (pass/run type) QB? That doesn't make sense to me or am I missing something?

03-19-2022, 07:43 PM	#8
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,855 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Reports: 'Taysom Hill experiment at quarterback over' for the Saints Should have moved to FB/TE ages ago. He isn't and never will be a top 15 QB. And Winston will only maybe at best crack into the top 10/12 For all the good things he did last year Kamara looked unimpressed with him plenty, missing short passes, often throwing over his head.

03-19-2022, 10:09 PM	#9
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,303	Re: Reports: 'Taysom Hill experiment at quarterback over' for the Saints Good. Maybe we can end the Andrus Peat at offensive guard experiment too. Now its time to see if Taysom Hill is the next Jahvid Best, Coby Fleener, or Demaryius Thomas.
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03-20-2022, 06:18 PM	#10
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,855 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Reports: 'Taysom Hill experiment at quarterback over' for the Saints Originally Posted by BakoSaint Good. Maybe we can end the Andrus Peat at offensive guard experiment too. Now its time to see if Taysom Hill is the next Jahvid Best, Coby Fleener, or Demaryius Thomas. Not a chance, at least not without eating huge dead money 16.9ml cap hit next year, all but 1.3ml is guaranteed. For all those saying next years cap is easy As of projected now 15ml(on a projected 20ml rise for 2023) over with 33 players under contract CGJ McCoy Harty Ingram Tuttle Calloway Throckmorten added Davenport,Onyemata,Kpassagnon who deals void You better belive its more of the same next year and Cam,Peats contracts and getting the restructured treatment. They will be on the roster well past being worth what they will be paid. The roster is far too top heavy 6 players are taking over 130ml of the 225ml cap. With Cam and Thomas taking over 25ml each Oh all this is with no LT or QB on the roster jnormand likes this.
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