New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com

New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com (https://blackandgold.com/community/)
-   Saints (https://blackandgold.com/saints/)
-   -   Has the page turned on the Book? (https://blackandgold.com/saints/101724-has-page-turned-book.html)

Boston Saint 03-24-2022 11:49 AM

Has the page turned on the Book?
 
I Wanted to hear peoples thoughts. Book’s name has rarely come up in media or on boards as far as I’ve seen during all the QB stuff that went on. Trades for Minshew and others were discussed without bringing up his name at all.

He was a 4th round pick. Major has mentioned OL players can be found along this area of draft and I agree. So Was/is Book just a wasted pick along with other QBs Payton drafted during his time here? Should he be considered a viable candidate to take over the team one day? Is he considered our number 2 QB right now?

Interested to hear viewpoints.

stickman 03-24-2022 12:03 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Excellent question.

I try not to hold that one start against him considering he was running for his life the entire game, but, yes, I think you lump him in with the rest of Payton's "projects".

Also, I think a lot of the talk of bringing in another QB is to have someone with some experience on the roster. I think Book is probably on the roster this season, but as 3rd string at best.

If he wants to prove me wrong, I would love to see it.

Boston Saint 03-24-2022 12:08 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Indeed his performance in that “game” cannot be used as a measuring stick. What do you think about Hill vs Book as no 2?

stickman 03-24-2022 12:09 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 948568)
Indeed his performance in that “game” cannot be used as a measuring stick. What do you think about Hill vs Book as no 2?

I think I'd like a 3rd option.

MatthewT 03-24-2022 12:12 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
I am honestly confused about the depth chart right now. I do believe Book is another year away from being considered for the 2 spot, but is Hill still considered a backup QB or not, and what is Bortles projected role?

SaintGnome 03-24-2022 12:20 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
The Miami game counts for nothing. Depends on how he looked in practice last year. Was he making good decisions? Can he make the full range of passes? Good footwork? Good throwing motion? Did he make progress as the year went along? If the answer is yes to all of these is yes then keep and develop him. If any of these are no and there is someone in the draft who looks better then cut bait. Me I think we should keep him. Sean saw something in him.

neugey 03-24-2022 12:29 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
IMO we should have Jameis locked in as QB1, Book as QB2 and Taysom focused on his TE/QB power role while serving as emergency QB QB3.

saintfan 03-24-2022 12:39 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 948573)
IMO we should have Jameis locked in as QB1, Book as QB2 and Taysom focused on his TE/QB power role while serving as emergency QB QB3.

I wouldn't argue with this approach. I'd leave it 'open' (wink wink) in camp just because - at least the first couple weeks, then I'd roll with the QB room the way you suggest.

rezburna 03-24-2022 12:48 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
QB1: Jameis Winston
QB2: Blake Bortles
QB3: Ian Book/Taysom Hill

Boston Saint 03-24-2022 01:24 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Thanks for input all.

jnormand 03-24-2022 01:31 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
I'd still like to see what Book could do with some normal starters in there.

AsylumGuido 03-24-2022 02:06 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 948571)
I am honestly confused about the depth chart right now. I do believe Book is another year away from being considered for the 2 spot, but is Hill still considered a backup QB or not, and what is Bortles projected role?

We always go into the 90 man roster with four QB's it seems. I guess we'll see if we pick up another during the draft, although, I don't see the need with Winston the clear starter and Book as the development option. I see Bortles somewhere between backup/#2 and camp body.

saintfan 03-24-2022 02:10 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 948578)
I'd still like to see what Book could do with some normal starters in there.

Yep - some people here (speedo) wrote him off based on that one game he played with the JV team. The only thing we know is that we don't know. We drafted him - give him a real shot or give the roster spot to somebody else.

lee909 03-24-2022 02:55 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
He was a Payton pick
He won't be on tbe roster by 2023 imo.

SmashMouth 03-24-2022 03:00 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
The book may have a different cover should we draft Pickett... :popcorn:

saintfan 03-24-2022 03:02 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 948591)
The book may have a different cover should we draft Pickett... :popcorn:

Gottta be honest I wouldn't be mad. If Jameis isn't the long term, and these days I don't think he is, then why not?

SaintGnome 03-24-2022 03:31 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 948574)
I wouldn't argue with this approach. I'd leave it 'open' (wink wink) in camp just because - at least the first couple weeks, then I'd roll with the QB room the way you suggest.

Are you suggesting it's open competition for #1QB? Or just for 2 and 3?

WhoDat!656 03-24-2022 05:43 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
I would have gone with Trevor.

Boston Saint 03-24-2022 05:49 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 948597)
Are you suggesting it's open competition for #1QB? Or just for 2 and 3?

Man I think things would go downhill fast for the organization if they opened up competition for the starters spot again.

SaintGnome 03-24-2022 05:53 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 948606)
Man I think things would go downhill fast for the organization if they opened up competition for the starters spot again.

Agreed.

jeanpierre 03-24-2022 10:03 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Hated the pick and tell people to watch his film vs Bama in the CFB playoffs - just not impressed at all...

The Dude 03-24-2022 10:37 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Seems like Payton was just throwing **** at the wall to see if he could find a Brees 2.0 that would stick. He liked him some short Qb’s. About the only thing I took away from that one game is that he is tough. Takes a lot more than that though. Winston is our best shot this year but at some point in the near future we are going to have to make a play for a Qb in the draft.

Boston Saint 03-25-2022 06:24 AM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Thanks for input all.

SmashMouth 03-25-2022 09:49 AM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 948615)
Hated the pick and tell people to watch his film vs Bama in the CFB playoffs - just not impressed at all...

Not many QBs look good against Bama, especially with non-SEC type talent. Tom Brady didn't light up the football field in Michigan. You could in fact argue that Ian Book's numbers look better at Notre Dame than Tom Brady's numbers at Michigan.

SmashMouth 03-25-2022 10:20 AM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 

K Major 03-25-2022 10:31 AM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Blake Bortles is your #2 QB for New Orleans until proven otherwise.

mapcow 03-25-2022 10:35 AM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Just like Thomas.... Book is done. pathetic showing

rezburna 03-25-2022 10:35 AM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 948615)
Hated the pick and tell people to watch his film vs Bama in the CFB playoffs - just not impressed at all...

Right. I don't trust those ND QB's.

hitta 03-25-2022 10:37 AM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
The Book was put on the bookshelf and never read.

SmashMouth 03-25-2022 10:44 AM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 948641)
Just like Thomas.... Book is done. pathetic showing

So one game with arguably college level help due to Covid rules no longer in place defines his NFL tenure?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 948642)
Right. I don't trust those ND QB's.

So Joe Montana sucked?

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitta (Post 948644)
The Book was put on the bookshelf and never read.

It's a wee bit premature to close the book on Ian Book, neaux?

K Major 03-25-2022 10:46 AM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 948642)
Right. I don't trust those ND QB's.

It's Bama for me.

McCarron, Wilson, Croyle, etc.

The jury is still out on Hurts, Tua and Mac Jones.

SmashMouth 03-25-2022 10:49 AM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 948646)
It's Bama for me.

McCarron, Wilson, Croyle, etc.

The jury is still out on Hurts, Tua and Mac Jones.

Jury is still out on Mac Jones... agreed. The rest are all backups at best, and were the product of the Bama talent pool at all other positions.

K Major 03-25-2022 10:54 AM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 948647)
Jury is still out on Mac Jones... agreed. The rest are all backups at best, and were the product of the Bama talent pool at all other positions.

Well someone tell Dennis to get it together because Hurts (2-0) sure doesn't look like a backup against the Saints defense ;).

SmashMouth 03-25-2022 10:59 AM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 948650)
Well someone tell Dennis to get it together because Hurts (2-0) sure doesn't look like a backup against the Saints defense ;).

Plenty of young NFL QBs had a party against the Saints, even Kap. It's our M.O., letting young QB have career days. There will be film this year on all those guys.

Lord_Saint83 03-25-2022 11:16 AM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
I said when we drafted him. He would been there in the sixth round. We definitely overreached for Book. Like what others have said ND and Bama qb’s don’t pan out. Yea, you might get one or two but a blind squirrel finds an acorn every once in a while

vpheughan 03-25-2022 11:59 AM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 948651)
Plenty of young NFL QBs had a party against the Saints, even Kap. It's our M.O., letting young QB have career days. There will be film this year on all those guys.

Like Kyler Murray, wait he lost. Well Justin Herbert, he lost too. How about Zach Wilson, another one who lost. What about the "NEW TB" Mac Jones? He lost too? C'mon Man!!! Jordan Love, wait don't tell me..........

Wait for the inevitable COULD'A, WOULD'A, SHOULD'A, WHAT IF and OH YEAH? What about *The Year Of Your Choice* when *Add QB Name*................

DOESN'T MATTER.

As Raúl Juliá said as he ripped off and the rearview mirror. The first rule of Italian driving is “WHAT'S BEHIND ME IS NOT IMPORTANT"

jeanpierre 03-25-2022 12:13 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 948633)
Not many QBs look good against Bama, especially with non-SEC type talent. Tom Brady didn't light up the football field in Michigan. You could in fact argue that Ian Book's numbers look better at Notre Dame than Tom Brady's numbers at Michigan.

Yeah, but Smash it's a Star Trek Kobayashi Maru; though the QB is likely to fail, how he handles stress, is still able to make best possible decisions, Bama is a great test...

Book was one read, if that, and run, and even then he often chose the wrong running lanes...

jeanpierre 03-25-2022 12:16 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 948647)
Jury is still out on Mac Jones... agreed. The rest are all backups at best, and were the product of the Bama talent pool at all other positions.

Trevor Lawrence and Mac Jones will progress well; am not sold on Justin Fields; Zach Wilson is screwed with the Jets; Lance is Incomplete till Jimmy G is traded...

jeanpierre 03-25-2022 12:26 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 948642)
Right. I don't trust those ND QB's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 948645)
So one game with arguably college level help due to Covid rules no longer in place defines his NFL tenure?

So Joe Montana sucked?

SuperBowl Era ND QBs who played in the NFL:

1971: Joe Theismann

1979: Joe Montana

1980: Rusty Lisch

1984: Blair Kiel

1987: Steve Beuerlein

1993: Rick Mirer

2000: Jarious Jackson

2007: Brady Quinn

2010: Jimmy Clausen

2017: DeShone Kizer

2021: Ian Book

Boston Saint 03-25-2022 12:28 PM

Re: Has the page turned on the Book?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 948667)
SuperBowl Era ND QBs who played in the NFL:

1971: Joe Theismann

1979: Joe Montana

1980: Rusty Lisch

1984: Blair Kiel

1987: Steve Beuerlein

1993: Rick Mirer

2000: Jarious Jackson

2007: Brady Quinn

2010: Jimmy Clausen

2017: DeShone Kizer

2021: Ian Book

That means they’re DUE!!!! GEAUX BOOK! 😝


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:01 PM.


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com