Saints draft Tennessee cornerback Alontae Taylor with the No. 49 pick

AsylumGuido · 05-05-2022, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Oh yes. Such a mature response having nothing to do with any of the points brought up. Just insult and run. It’s pretty much all you got. So to recap…

You say because the Saints have had the success the have had under Loomis a logical critique of the way they handle the draft can’t be made.

I disagree and provide a logical critique

You attempt to say there is little/no difference in the way the Rams and Saints approach the draft.

I say there is

You freak out and ask why I have a life long mission to always disagree with you.

I point out how I don’t and don’t appreciate your lies.

You call me a trip.

So…I say a logical argument can be made. I’ve made it. I think others on here would agree with me.

Since when is finding humor in something "freaking out". LOL!

And you made the argument that the Rams have a superior draft strategy than the Saints by trading away all of their first round picks since 2016 for established veterans. Okie dokie.

Boston Saint · 05-05-2022, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And you made the argument that the Rams have a superior draft strategy than the Saints….

No. Here is where you are twisting things. You said first…

“ It's hard to logically argue against that philosophy…”

I did not say the Rams were superior. I was ONLY playing devils advocate and giving a logical argument against the Saint’s philosophy by pointing out another successful team (Rams) does it differently.

And when you accuse me of having a “life’s mission” against you, then you are freaking out

AsylumGuido · 05-05-2022, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

No. Here is where you are twisting things. You said first…

“ It's hard to logically argue against that philosophy…”

I did not say the Rams were superior. I was ONLY playing devils advocate and giving a logical argument against the Saint’s philosophy by pointing out another successful team (Rams) does it differently.

And when you accuse me of having a “life’s mission” against you, then you are freaking out

When did I ever say there weren't other successful draft philosophies? Go back and read closely. Heck, search the entire history of BlackandGold. All I said was that one could not logically argue against the success of the Saints' draft history under Loomis based upon the win/loss record over his tenure. That's it. That's all.

Although there is one thing we absolutely agree upon ... you do like playing the Devil's Advocate.

dev·il's ad·vo·cate
/ˈˌdevəlz ˈadvəkət/

noun
a person who expresses a contentious opinion in order to provoke debate or test the strength of the opposing arguments.

Boston Saint · 05-05-2022, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

All I said was that one could not logically argue against the success of the Saints' draft history under Loomis based upon the win/loss record over his tenure. That's it.

I understood that And I disagree. Not because it’s you and it’s my life mission. The idea is flawed. You are using The win/loss record as the barometer of how successful the Saints have been in the draft over Loomis tenure. Not so. Drew Brees is the biggest reason for their W-L record and he was not a draft pick. I’d say the largest portion of Loomis success has been his cap management and FA (Brees, Vilma, Davis) signing rather than draft success. Too many Baptiste type picks and trading up for guys that were about 50/50 success rates. It’s just my feeling. I may be wrong. Not because I always disagree with you.

AsylumGuido · 05-05-2022, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I understood that And I disagree. Not because it’s you and it’s my life mission. The idea is flawed. You are using The win/loss record as the barometer of how successful the Saints have been in the draft over Loomis tenure. Not so. Drew Brees is the biggest reason for their W-L record and he was not a draft pick. I’d say the largest portion of Loomis success has been his cap management and FA (Brees, Vilma, Davis) signing rather than draft success. Too many Baptiste type picks and trading up for guys that were about 50/50 success rates. It’s just my feeling. I may be wrong. Not because I always disagree with you.

Gotcha.

Boston Saint · 05-05-2022, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Gotcha.

So, pick Two words out of my paragraph long statement….ignore everything else…. and say “Gotcha”…..you are sad. My 9 year old nephew is more mature than you.

05-05-2022, 11:23 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,677	Re: Saints draft Tennessee cornerback Alontae Taylor with the No. 49 pick Originally Posted by Boston Saint Oh yes. Such a mature response having nothing to do with any of the points brought up. Just insult and run. It’s pretty much all you got. So to recap… You say because the Saints have had the success the have had under Loomis a logical critique of the way they handle the draft can’t be made. I disagree and provide a logical critique You attempt to say there is little/no difference in the way the Rams and Saints approach the draft. I say there is You freak out and ask why I have a life long mission to always disagree with you. I point out how I don’t and don’t appreciate your lies. You call me a trip. So…I say a logical argument can be made. I’ve made it. I think others on here would agree with me. Since when is finding humor in something "freaking out". LOL! And you made the argument that the Rams have a superior draft strategy than the Saints by trading away all of their first round picks since 2016 for established veterans. Okie dokie.

05-05-2022, 11:40 AM	#2
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints draft Tennessee cornerback Alontae Taylor with the No. 49 pick Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And you made the argument that the Rams have a superior draft strategy than the Saints…. No. Here is where you are twisting things. You said first… “ It's hard to logically argue against that philosophy…” I did not say the Rams were superior. I was ONLY playing devils advocate and giving a logical argument against the Saint’s philosophy by pointing out another successful team (Rams) does it differently. And when you accuse me of having a “life’s mission” against you, then you are freaking out

05-05-2022, 12:27 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,677	Re: Saints draft Tennessee cornerback Alontae Taylor with the No. 49 pick Originally Posted by Boston Saint No. Here is where you are twisting things. You said first… “ It's hard to logically argue against that philosophy…” I did not say the Rams were superior. I was ONLY playing devils advocate and giving a logical argument against the Saint’s philosophy by pointing out another successful team (Rams) does it differently. And when you accuse me of having a “life’s mission” against you, then you are freaking out When did I ever say there weren't other successful draft philosophies? Go back and read closely. Heck, search the entire history of BlackandGold. All I said was that one could not logically argue against the success of the Saints' draft history under Loomis based upon the win/loss record over his tenure. That's it. That's all. Although there is one thing we absolutely agree upon ... you do like playing the Devil's Advocate. dev·il's ad·vo·cate /ˈˌdevəlz ˈadvəkət/ noun a person who expresses a contentious opinion in order to provoke debate or test the strength of the opposing arguments.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

05-05-2022, 12:44 PM	#4
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints draft Tennessee cornerback Alontae Taylor with the No. 49 pick Originally Posted by AsylumGuido All I said was that one could not logically argue against the success of the Saints' draft history under Loomis based upon the win/loss record over his tenure. That's it. I understood that And I disagree. Not because it’s you and it’s my life mission. The idea is flawed. You are using The win/loss record as the barometer of how successful the Saints have been in the draft over Loomis tenure. Not so. Drew Brees is the biggest reason for their W-L record and he was not a draft pick. I’d say the largest portion of Loomis success has been his cap management and FA (Brees, Vilma, Davis) signing rather than draft success. Too many Baptiste type picks and trading up for guys that were about 50/50 success rates. It’s just my feeling. I may be wrong. Not because I always disagree with you.
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05-05-2022, 01:44 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,677	Re: Saints draft Tennessee cornerback Alontae Taylor with the No. 49 pick Originally Posted by Boston Saint I understood that And I disagree. Not because it’s you and it’s my life mission. The idea is flawed. You are using The win/loss record as the barometer of how successful the Saints have been in the draft over Loomis tenure. Not so. Drew Brees is the biggest reason for their W-L record and he was not a draft pick. I’d say the largest portion of Loomis success has been his cap management and FA (Brees, Vilma, Davis) signing rather than draft success. Too many Baptiste type picks and trading up for guys that were about 50/50 success rates. It’s just my feeling. I may be wrong. Not because I always disagree with you. Gotcha.

05-05-2022, 02:20 PM	#6
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints draft Tennessee cornerback Alontae Taylor with the No. 49 pick Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Gotcha. So, pick Two words out of my paragraph long statement….ignore everything else…. and say “Gotcha”…..you are sad. My 9 year old nephew is more mature than you.