I will say 7-10. I hope we are better but I see risk. We were 9-8 last year and we lost a hall of fame caliber coach and replaced him with a career .222 coach who would blame the Raiders disfunction for that record. But remember the Saints were dysfunctional when Payton arrived, so disfunction may only stop lesser coaches. We have definitely upgraded at WR which is why I dont predict a .222 record though it could happen. We lost 2 pro bowl level players in free agency. A lot will depend on injury and perhaps suspension so if everything goes right we could win but I feel we have a lot of risk. Our qb is coming off an acl. Michael Thomas has not been healthy in 2 years. Cameron Jordan is getting old and Davenport is brittle. Our 3 biggest free agent signings all come with injury concerns over their careers. Taysom Hill is $10 million of glass and we cant sign a real TE because we have to justify his salary. Kamara could still be suspended and the offense has struggled with him out. Our quest under Mickey Loomis to have as few draft picks as possible has left us with an older and less deep roster. If everyone stays healthy we could win it all if Allen has a great second act as head coach, but Allen’s first act was weak and we have accumulated a lot of injury risk.

I will say 7-10. I hope we are better but I see risk. We were 9-8 last year and we lost a hall of fame caliber coach and replaced him with a career .222 coach who would blame the Raiders disfunction for that record. But remember the Saints were dysfunctional when Payton arrived, so disfunction may only stop lesser coaches. We have definitely upgraded at WR which is why I dont predict a .222 record though it could happen. We lost 2 pro bowl level players in free agency. A lot will depend on injury and perhaps suspension so if everything goes right we could win but I feel we have a lot of risk. Our qb is coming off an acl. Michael Thomas has not been healthy in 2 years. Cameron Jordan is getting old and Davenport is brittle. Our 3 biggest free agent signings all come with injury concerns over their careers. Taysom Hill is $10 million of glass and we cant sign a real TE because we have to justify his salary. Kamara could still be suspended and the offense has struggled with him out. Our quest under Mickey Loomis to have as few draft picks as possible has left us with an older and less deep roster. If everyone stays healthy we could win it all if Allen has a great second act as head coach, but Allen’s first act was weak and we have accumulated a lot of injury risk.

Care for a friendly wager? I'll gladly take the over on seven games. Every day.

You are predicting 17-0 in the regular season so will you give me the over-under on that? How about we meet in the middle at 12-5? I will give you that bet and even if they reach exactly 12 you win.

The fact is that we were 9-8 last year and with many people predicting far more than 9 wins in this thread, its perfectly reasonable for one person to predict less, based on a much less proven coach. Ironically, I am also the only one who would also trade Payton within the division for three 1st round picks, because I guess I feel someone worth three 1st round picks could be worth 2 wins in the record, whereas others think he is worth 8 1st rounders within the division but at the same time expect we will win more games without him.

I will say 7-10. I hope we are better but I see risk. We were 9-8 last year and we lost a hall of fame caliber coach and replaced him with a career .222 coach who would blame the Raiders disfunction for that record. But remember the Saints were dysfunctional when Payton arrived, so disfunction may only stop lesser coaches. We have definitely upgraded at WR which is why I dont predict a .222 record though it could happen. We lost 2 pro bowl level players in free agency. A lot will depend on injury and perhaps suspension so if everything goes right we could win but I feel we have a lot of risk. Our qb is coming off an acl. Michael Thomas has not been healthy in 2 years. Cameron Jordan is getting old and Davenport is brittle. Our 3 biggest free agent signings all come with injury concerns over their careers. Taysom Hill is $10 million of glass and we cant sign a real TE because we have to justify his salary. Kamara could still be suspended and the offense has struggled with him out. Our quest under Mickey Loomis to have as few draft picks as possible has left us with an older and less deep roster. If everyone stays healthy we could win it all if Allen has a great second act as head coach, but Allen’s first act was weak and we have accumulated a lot of injury risk.

Some of yall can call me crazy but I kinda called it with the post above. There were some surprises that Taysom Hill did not get hurt (though I was right that he was not a real TE) and none of the suspension clouds materialized this year. But basically I called our exact record, Michael Thomas and Jameis Winston struggling off injuries, depth and old age being an issue on the roster, WR being our main area of improvement, and head coach being a major question with Allen's records with the Raiders not necessarily being a fluke.

Some of yall can call me crazy but I kinda called it with the post above. There were some surprises that Taysom Hill did not get hurt (though I was right that he was not a real TE) and none of the suspension clouds materialized this year. But basically I called our exact record, Michael Thomas and Jameis Winston struggling off injuries, depth and old age being an issue on the roster, WR being our main area of improvement, the big 3 free agents of Landry, Mathieu, and Maye carrying injury risk (2 of 3 missed significant time), and head coach being a major question with Allen's records with the Raiders not necessarily being a fluke.

I will say 7-10. I hope we are better but I see risk. We were 9-8 last year and we lost a hall of fame caliber coach and replaced him with a career .222 coach who would blame the Raiders disfunction for that record. But remember the Saints were dysfunctional when Payton arrived, so disfunction may only stop lesser coaches. We have definitely upgraded at WR which is why I dont predict a .222 record though it could happen. We lost 2 pro bowl level players in free agency. A lot will depend on injury and perhaps suspension so if everything goes right we could win but I feel we have a lot of risk. Our qb is coming off an acl. Michael Thomas has not been healthy in 2 years. Cameron Jordan is getting old and Davenport is brittle. Our 3 biggest free agent signings all come with injury concerns over their careers. Taysom Hill is $10 million of glass and we cant sign a real TE because we have to justify his salary. Kamara could still be suspended and the offense has struggled with him out. Our quest under Mickey Loomis to have as few draft picks as possible has left us with an older and less deep roster. If everyone stays healthy we could win it all if Allen has a great second act as head coach, but Allen’s first act was weak and we have accumulated a lot of injury risk.