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shawnkytonk 05-18-2022 04:49 PM

Re: 3 Areas of Concern for the Saints Defense Heading Towards OTAs
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 952355)
There will be communication issues in the secondary to start the season.

Period.

Very true, but it seems DA’s defenses have started off slowly the past few years if memory serves me correctly.

AsylumGuido 05-18-2022 06:05 PM

Re: 3 Areas of Concern for the Saints Defense Heading Towards OTAs
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 952355)
There will be communication issues in the secondary to start the season.

Period.

More so than any other team with changes in the defensive backfield? More so than any team with any changes to the defensive coaching and/or schemes? If so, will those issues exceed their individual athletic abilities to still have the defense be able to perform at a high level?

Basically, there are always issues with the defensive secondary every year with every team to a degree. I believe they'll weather those issue just fine especially considering the teams we face leading off the season.

AsylumGuido 05-18-2022 06:06 PM

Re: 3 Areas of Concern for the Saints Defense Heading Towards OTAs
 
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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 952358)
Very true, but it seems DA’s defenses have started off slowly the past few years if memory serves me correctly.

Most defenses start off slowly in the secondary.

turbo_dog 05-19-2022 12:33 PM

Re: 3 Areas of Concern for the Saints Defense Heading Towards OTAs
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 952361)
More so than any other team with changes in the defensive backfield? More so than any team with any changes to the defensive coaching and/or schemes? If so, will those issues exceed their individual athletic abilities to still have the defense be able to perform at a high level?

Basically, there are always issues with the defensive secondary every year with every team to a degree. I believe they'll weather those issue just fine especially considering the teams we face leading off the season.

JFC, Guido

Boston Saint 05-19-2022 01:00 PM

Re: 3 Areas of Concern for the Saints Defense Heading Towards OTAs
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 952361)
More so than any other team with changes in the defensive backfield? More so than any team with any changes to the defensive coaching and/or schemes? If so, will those issues exceed their individual athletic abilities to still have the defense be able to perform at a high level?

Basically, there are always issues with the defensive secondary every year with every team to a degree. I believe they'll weather those issue just fine especially considering the teams we face leading off the season.

That’s an interesting thought. Who “called the plays” on-field last year for the D? I would have thought it was Davis. Does the backfield have a different caller than the LB’s? Help us out rez!

AsylumGuido 05-19-2022 02:00 PM

Re: 3 Areas of Concern for the Saints Defense Heading Towards OTAs
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 952388)
That’s an interesting thought. Who “called the plays” on-field last year for the D? I would have thought it was Davis. Does the backfield have a different caller than the LB’s? Help us out rez!

Yes. It was Davis, with Werner as his backup with the dot. Here's all the defensive dot wearers from 2021.

Who Wears the Dot?

TeamPlayers
49ersLB Fred Warner, LB Azeez Al-Shaair
BearsLB Roquan Smith, LB Alec Ogletree
BengalsLB Logan Wilson, LB Germaine Pratt
BillsLB Tremaine Edmunds, LB A.J. Klein
BroncosLB Alexander Johnson, LB Justin Strnad, LB Baron Browning, LB Kenny Young
BuccaneersLB Devin White, LB Lavonte David
CardinalsLB Jordan Hicks, LB Tanner Vallejo
ChiefsLB Anthony Hitchens, LB Ben Niemann, LB Nick Bolton
ColtsLB Darius Leonard, LB Bobby Okereke
CommandersLB Cole Holcomb, LB David Mayo
DolphinsLB Jerome Baker, LB Sam Eguavoen
EaglesLB Eric Wilson, LB T.J. Edwards, LB Alex Singleton
FalconsLB Foyesade Oluokun (yes, he played 100% of ATL's defensive snaps this season)
GiantsLB Blake Martinez, LB Tae Crowder
JaguarsLB Damien Wilson, LB Myles Jack
JetsLB C.J. Mosley, LB Jamien Sherwood
LionsLB Alex Anzalone, LB Jalen Reeves-Maybin
PackersLB De’Vondre Campbell, LB Krys Barnes
PanthersLB Shaq Thompson, LB Jermaine Carter Jr.
RaidersLB Denzel Perryman, LB Corey Littleton
SaintsLB Demario Davis, LB Pete Werner
SeahawksLB Bobby Wagner, LB Cody Barton
SteelersLB Joe Schobert, LB Robert Spillane
TexansLB Christian Kirksey, LB Zach Cunningham, LB Neville Hewitt
TitansLB David Long Jr., LB Jayon Brown
VikingsLB Anthony Barr, LB Nick Vigil
BrownsLB Malcolm Smith, S John Johnson III, LB Anthony Walker Jr.
CowboysLB Micah Parsons, S Jayron Kearse
ChargersS Derwin James, LB Kyzir White
PatriotsS Devin McCourty, LB Kyle Van Noy
RamsS Jordan Fuller, LB Ernest Jones, LB Troy Reeder, S Eric Weddle
RavensS Chuck Clark, S Geno Stone

Boston Saint 05-19-2022 02:32 PM

Re: 3 Areas of Concern for the Saints Defense Heading Towards OTAs
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 952392)
Yes. It was Davis, with Werner as his backup with the dot. Here's all the defensive dot wearers from 2021.

Who Wears the Dot?

TeamPlayers
49ersLB Fred Warner, LB Azeez Al-Shaair
BearsLB Roquan Smith, LB Alec Ogletree
BengalsLB Logan Wilson, LB Germaine Pratt
BillsLB Tremaine Edmunds, LB A.J. Klein
BroncosLB Alexander Johnson, LB Justin Strnad, LB Baron Browning, LB Kenny Young
BuccaneersLB Devin White, LB Lavonte David
CardinalsLB Jordan Hicks, LB Tanner Vallejo
ChiefsLB Anthony Hitchens, LB Ben Niemann, LB Nick Bolton
ColtsLB Darius Leonard, LB Bobby Okereke
CommandersLB Cole Holcomb, LB David Mayo
DolphinsLB Jerome Baker, LB Sam Eguavoen
EaglesLB Eric Wilson, LB T.J. Edwards, LB Alex Singleton
FalconsLB Foyesade Oluokun (yes, he played 100% of ATL's defensive snaps this season)
GiantsLB Blake Martinez, LB Tae Crowder
JaguarsLB Damien Wilson, LB Myles Jack
JetsLB C.J. Mosley, LB Jamien Sherwood
LionsLB Alex Anzalone, LB Jalen Reeves-Maybin
PackersLB De’Vondre Campbell, LB Krys Barnes
PanthersLB Shaq Thompson, LB Jermaine Carter Jr.
RaidersLB Denzel Perryman, LB Corey Littleton
SaintsLB Demario Davis, LB Pete Werner
SeahawksLB Bobby Wagner, LB Cody Barton
SteelersLB Joe Schobert, LB Robert Spillane
TexansLB Christian Kirksey, LB Zach Cunningham, LB Neville Hewitt
TitansLB David Long Jr., LB Jayon Brown
VikingsLB Anthony Barr, LB Nick Vigil
BrownsLB Malcolm Smith, S John Johnson III, LB Anthony Walker Jr.
CowboysLB Micah Parsons, S Jayron Kearse
ChargersS Derwin James, LB Kyzir White
PatriotsS Devin McCourty, LB Kyle Van Noy
RamsS Jordan Fuller, LB Ernest Jones, LB Troy Reeder, S Eric Weddle
RavensS Chuck Clark, S Geno Stone

This designates the radio/headset guy. Does the backfield have an additional coordinator onfield to help put guys in place in addition? Like the shortstop and second baseman will coordinate without the outfielders.

saintsfan1976 05-19-2022 02:45 PM

Re: 3 Areas of Concern for the Saints Defense Heading Towards OTAs
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 952361)
More so than any other team with changes in the defensive backfield? More so than any team with any changes to the defensive coaching and/or schemes? If so, will those issues exceed their individual athletic abilities to still have the defense be able to perform at a high level?

Basically, there are always issues with the defensive secondary every year with every team to a degree. I believe they'll weather those issue just fine especially considering the teams we face leading off the season.

Don't overcomplicate the argument Guido. We've seen it before and specifically in DA's defense. There will be communication issues to start the season.

I hope it doesn't cause us to lose games we "should win".

neugey 05-19-2022 02:50 PM

Re: 3 Areas of Concern for the Saints Defense Heading Towards OTAs
 
The Eric Wilson signing (ex-Vikings) clears up some of the stress about LB depth.

AsylumGuido 05-19-2022 03:34 PM

Re: 3 Areas of Concern for the Saints Defense Heading Towards OTAs
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 952394)
Don't overcomplicate the argument Guido. We've seen it before and specifically in DA's defense. There will be communication issues to start the season.

I hope it doesn't cause us to lose games we "should win".

Yes. I agree there will be some of the same learning curve issues per usual. I just feel it may be a tad less of an issue with veterans (Maye and Mathieu) being plugged into starting positions as opposed to rookies as in the recent past. Lattimore, Adebo, and Ceedy should by now have a solid comfort level in Allen's scheme. This is the most seasoned secondary we have had in some time starting off a new season.

Also, something else to note is that we now have the Chief's starting safety tandem from 2021 (Mathieu and Sorensen) on the squad if Maye for any reason isn't ready.


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