Boston Saint

So he’s Jimmy Graham 2.0…

jeanpierre

Know lots of folks are frustrated with Trautman, considering four picks (R4, R5, R6, R7) were used to move up in the draft to Round 3 to select the Dayton Flyer...

Like the reach for Marcus Davenport, that's not on Trautman, but on those who didn't factor in their calculus he's coming from Dayton, an FCS school without FBS school resources...

No doubt the low Rec are a legit concern, but the guy has been a tremendous get as a blocker, and despite injury, he's putting forward tremendous effort, so that's a plus...

I'm very optimistic about a third season breakout happening for the former Dayton Flyer, if he can just get enough reliable targets to build confidence, get rolling along...

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

turbo_dog

I think Vannett will be gone and we will see a trio of Trautman, Johnson, and Krull. Once Hill comes back, one of those guys will probably have to hit the bricks. I'm hoping Krull gets coached up on blocking and becomes a diamond in the rough.

Boston Saint

I am looking forward to a healthy Hill on the field. However, I don’t see him ever evening a true TE that can play off the line as a blocker and be a receiving threat. He’s only 6’ 2”. He doesn’t have the height or bulk of a Trautman, Krull, or Kelce.

saintsfan1976

I think he'll be a "TE" in name only. Fully expect him to be utilized all over the formation.

Boston Saint

Agreed. That’s why I feel more “traditional” TE help us needed than Hill provides. Not that it’s readily available

halloween 65

I just hope Pete uses him right. PC has a lot of speed already at WR with assuming MT is good. Adding Hill (who has speed) with the WR corp I could see him lining up as a TE. I'm not sold on the O line ,yet. Rookie LT, Ruiz as G. Running back is still a question, Kamara,( everyone knows there) but I will say he's no 3 down back. Rookie rb who I got my fingers crossed on him( just the right size in my opinion) but no real depth to speak of after that. So unless the O line gets it right rb,qb ,wr, TE want matter,the D will have to bail them out for however long.

SaintGnome

Is Josh Hill still a Lion? Wiki only said signed by Lions and went on IR last year. Helluva blocker and underrated as a receiver (IMHO)

AsylumGuido

He retired from football about a year ago.

TE Josh Hill retires from football less than 2 months after signing with Detroit Lions

Mike Triplett
ESPN Staff Writer

May 6, 2021

METAIRIE, La. -- Tight end Josh Hill officially announced his retirement Thursday, less than two months after joining the Detroit Lions as a free agent.

The Lions signed veteran tight end Darren Fells as a replacement.

Hill, who turns 31 later this month, spent his first eight years with the New Orleans Saints before being released in a wave of salary-cap cuts. He initially planned to follow his former position coach, Dan Campbell, to Detroit before the apparent change of heart.

Hill's one-year deal with the Lions was scheduled to pay him $1.2 million.

"This game has blessed my family and I with more than we could have ever imagined," Hill wrote in an Instagram post. "Everything this game has given and taught me makes this decision extremely difficult, but I am looking forward to all of the years I have with my young family, and being able to chase after different dreams."

“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

iceshack149

I think that Trautman is the same player as Josh Hill.