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SmashMouth 06-16-2022 04:11 AM

It was a done deal ...
 

stickman 06-16-2022 09:58 AM

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So it will happen next year instead of this year and the Dolphins will have to compensate the Saints to hire Payton.

Better be at least 1 first round pick in that compensation. Should be two since that's what the Bucs gave up for Chucky years ago and he hadn't won a Superbowl yet.

SmashMouth 06-16-2022 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by stickman (Post 953674)
So it will happen next year instead of this year and the Dolphins will have to compensate the Saints to hire Payton.

Better be at least 1 first round pick in that compensation. Should be two since that's what the Bucs gave up for Chucky years ago and he hadn't won a Superbowl yet.

Do I hear three.... FOUR #1s... anyone?

Should be way more than a DeshaunW trade.

Rugby Saint II 06-16-2022 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 953675)
Do I hear three.... FOUR #1s... anyone?

Should be way more than a DeshaunW trade.


Four it is! Sold!
:banana:

AsylumGuido 06-16-2022 11:20 AM

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Sounds like the Saints would have already agreed to a single first.

Boston Saint 06-16-2022 11:54 AM

Re: It was a done deal ...
 
I’d be surprised if we get anything. Just wait another season or two and it costs nothing.

AsylumGuido 06-16-2022 11:59 AM

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I've got a question. Why would Sean Payton want to go to a team that has no first round picks for the next two or three years?

SmashMouth 06-16-2022 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 953696)
I've got a question. Why would Sean Payton want to go to a team that has no first round picks for the next two or three years?

Cuz TB was also going there? Until the deal blew up with the lawsuit... that's Florio's take. Where there is smoke there is fire?

AsylumGuido 06-16-2022 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 953707)
Cuz TB was also going there? Until the deal blew up with the lawsuit... that's Florio's take. Where there is smoke there is fire?

I'm really wondering about the future, say 2023. Why would Payton want to go to some other team that was trading away all their #1's for two or three years? Brady not involved.

BakoSaint 06-17-2022 12:16 AM

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Coaching vacancies are unpredictable. There could be a bidding war next year where we get a lot of compensation or there could be scant vacancies and nobody is willing to trade much and offer an appealing salary and roster to Sean. It could be Reid and Belichick both retire, McCarthy has a mediocre season and the Dallas job opens up, and many other coaches on the hot seat are let go. Or it could be that many of the coaches on the hot seat improve enough to buy another year on the job, the coaches who have losing seasons are First year coaches who get a second year to prove or experienced coaches with just one off year, and few good vacancies materialize. The dolphins will likely give their new coach 2-3 years to prove himself. Dallas may want Payton, but maybe McCarthy will have a good year and get an extension. Payton would be most valuable to a team that already has a good young QB and needs a guru to improve their offense and can give up a 1st rounder because they can replace the pick in free agency with a good cap position.

Other things could happen to change Paytons value. New offensive styles setting the league on fire might reduce his value. He could have some scandal. If Dennis Allen does too good with the offense, it could make Payton look replaceable, or even unwilling to change with the times, though I will take it. Or offenses could trend away from running qbs and toward paytons style of offense and two young pro style qbs could face off in the superbowl with experienced coaches, making Payton look like the missing piece to other teams with young qbs.


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