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AsylumGuido 07-07-2022 04:44 PM
Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints roster breakdown: Running backs/fullbacks
 
Way, way, way too early 2023 draft info, but ...

Boston Saint 07-07-2022 04:46 PM
Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints roster breakdown: Running backs/fullbacks
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 954523)
Not likely until after they have an idea of any Kamara discipline and timetable. August 26 is the next investigatory hearing scheduled, I believe. I doubt they'll want to sign a vested veteran prior to week one if no suspension has been handed down for Kamara. There's no telling when any legal proceeding will be finalized. The front office have been setting their groundwork and likely have a short list of possibilities they can contact if needed. Kamara's issue aside, we have a better RB situation than much of the league, especially if Abram Smith pans out. Tony Jones, Jr. has flashed at times and knows the system well. And I don't get the lack of love for Ingram. And then there's Washington and Ozigbo. We usually don't keep more than three, maybe four, RB's on the 53 roster along with a single FB.
There’s just too many “ifs” there and dependence on an aging Ingram. Best Saints teams always had great playmaking from the backfield from Deuce to PT to Bush, Sproles, Ingram and now Kamara (Sprinkle in a bit of Ivory etc).

You could be right guido and all works out Ok. But Let’s say that one of these three things happen… Kamara is suspended (or gets hurt) or Ingram can’t hold up or Smith/Jones can’t cut it, then we are down to 2-3 backs to get us through a 17 game season. That’s not enough. It’s not “hatred” that makes fans worried that we don’t have enough at the position.

Edit…

Tony Jones has 57 career carries for a 2.8 yard average
Abram Smith is an undrafted Rookie
Ingram is 32 and averaged less than 4 ypc last year
Ozigbo is unproven to put it mildly

Now, considering Kamara didn’t make it through a full season last year, how can you not understand othe fan’s worries?

AsylumGuido 07-07-2022 04:57 PM
Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints roster breakdown: Running backs/fullbacks
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 954525)
There’s just too many “ifs” there and dependence on an aging Ingram. Best Saints teams always had great playmaking from the backfield from Deuce to PT to Bush, Sproles, Ingram and now Kamara (Sprinkle in a bit of Ivory etc).

You could be right guido and all works out Ok. But Let’s say that one of these three things happen… Kamara is suspended (or gets hurt) or Ingram can’t hold up or Smith/Jones can’t cut it, then we are down to 2-3 backs to get us through a 17 game season. That’s not enough. It’s not “hatred” that makes fans worried that we don’t have enough at the position.
No kidding, that's why you work up a list of prospective vested RB's that can be added after the week one deadline and have them on speed dial. Once again, the Saints routinely carry only three RB's and a FB on the 53 man roster. You can go back and verify that on ourlads.com Saints page.

There's not much more that can be done right now. Sure, you can add some non-vested player as an eighth training camp RB, but then you'll need to cut a player from another position. But come final cut day they'll all be released other than the base three RB's and one FB.

I get your concern, but rosters are limited and you can't just stock away players on roster just for the sake of having them available. That's what makes it so complicated. There's only so many slots open.

AsylumGuido 07-07-2022 05:05 PM
Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints roster breakdown: Running backs/fullbacks
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 954525)
Edit…

Tony Jones has 57 career carries for a 2.8 yard average
Abram Smith is an undrafted Rookie
Ingram is 32 and averaged less than 4 ypc last year
Ozigbo is unproven to put it mildly

Now, considering Kamara didn’t make it through a full season last year, how can you not understand othe fan’s worries?
Of course I get the concerns. Every team in the NFL has the exact same concerns. They also have the exact same constraints. That's why there's all those veteran RB's out there as free agents.

As for last year's RB numbers ... I go back to only one offensive lineman playing every game and he played two different positions last year. We can basically throw out last year.

Boston Saint 07-07-2022 05:05 PM
Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints roster breakdown: Running backs/fullbacks
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 954526)
No kidding, that's why you work up a list of prospective vested RB's that can be added after the week one deadline and have them on speed dial. Once again, the Saints routinely carry only three RB's and a FB on the 53 man roster. You can go back and verify that on ourlads.com Saints page.

There's not much more that can be done right now. Sure, you can add some non-vested player as an eighth training camp RB, but then you'll need to cut a player from another position. But come final cut day they'll all be released other than the base three RB's and one FB.

I get your concern, but rosters are limited and you can't just stock away players on roster just for the sake of having them available. That's what makes it so complicated. There's only so many slots open.
So, you disagree with me when I say “I hope the Saints bolster the RB position”?

AsylumGuido 07-07-2022 05:10 PM
Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints roster breakdown: Running backs/fullbacks
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 954528)
So, you disagree with me when I say “I hope the Saints bolster the RB position”?
No. Not if needed and when that need is pressing. But I certainly don't see it as a urgent need unless some miracle happens so Nevada declines to prosecute Kamara on August 26th. That opens the league up to immediately lay down a suspension. Otherwise they'll wait until the case is final and who know when that will happen.

Or if one or more of our current RB's get injured. God forbid.

Boston Saint 07-07-2022 05:34 PM
Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints roster breakdown: Running backs/fullbacks
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 954529)
No. Not if needed and when that need is pressing. But I certainly don't see it as a urgent need unless some miracle happens so Nevada declines to prosecute Kamara on August 26th. That opens the league up to immediately lay down a suspension. Otherwise they'll wait until the case is final and who know when that will happen.

Or if one or more of our current RB's get injured. God forbid.
Fair enough. But consider this; Kamara has never started 16 games in a season. Last year he started 10. I don’t think his health is going to get better as he gets older. So, even discounting a possible suspension, I question if Smith, Jones (love that name combo as I’ve said before) and Ingram can get the rest done. A team has to be able to rush the ball when needed.

AsylumGuido 07-07-2022 05:45 PM
Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints roster breakdown: Running backs/fullbacks
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 954530)
Fair enough. But consider this; Kamara has never started 16 games in a season. Last year he started 10. I don’t think his health is going to get better as he gets older. So, even discounting a possible suspension, I question if Smith, Jones (love that name combo as I’ve said before) and Ingram can get the rest done. A team has to be able to rush the ball when needed.
You described every other NFL team. Very few RB's start every game. But you are limited to roster spots. What you are not limited to is the number of phone #'s on your speed dial.

SaintGnome 07-07-2022 05:54 PM
Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints roster breakdown: Running backs/fullbacks
 
Well, it's just July there's a lot of time to improve both RB and TE positions before the season begins. There was a Pierre Thomas, maybe there's another one hanging around now and we haven't seen him yet.

I kinda think DA is the victim of his successes he turned the weakness of the WR's as well as DB's into a strength so quickly (very possibly O-line as well) that people expect all positions settled as quickly. :)

AsylumGuido 07-07-2022 06:01 PM
Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints roster breakdown: Running backs/fullbacks
 
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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 954534)
Well, it's just July there's a lot of time to improve both RB and TE positions before the season begins. There was a Pierre Thomas, maybe there's another one hanging around now and we haven't seen him yet.

I kinda think DA is the victim of his successes he turned the weakness of the WR's as well as DB's into a strength so quickly (very possibly O-line as well) that people expect all positions settled as quickly. :)
Here's hoping Abram Smith is the next Pierre Thomas.


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