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SmashMouth 06-28-2022 11:54 AM

2022 New Orleans Saints roster breakdown: Linebackers
 
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Take a deep dive into the New Orleans Saints roster ahead of training camp with a player-by-player breakdown at each position.

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AsylumGuido 07-01-2022 01:19 PM

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Rugby Saint II 07-01-2022 01:58 PM

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We are going to be sneaky deep at a few positions.

iceshack149 07-01-2022 04:48 PM

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It'll interesting to see what happens at LB.

Andrew Dowell in his 3rd season might make the team. Deuce Windham is high on him.
Baun is a conundrum.
Elliss is in his 4th year and shows flashes--especially on Special Teams.
DeMarco Jackson from Appalachian State is my dark horse to make the 53 man roster.
The rookie from Notre Dame, Pryor, and the other rookie from Utah, Sewell, have a chance to make the practice squad since the Saints, in my opinion, only have two good-great LB's in Davis and Werner.

Boston Saint 07-01-2022 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 954335)
It'll interesting to see what happens at LB.

Andrew Dowell in his 3rd season might make the team. Deuce Windham is high on him.
Baun is a conundrum.
Elliss is in his 4th year and shows flashes--especially on Special Teams.
DeMarco Jackson from Appalachian State is my dark horse to make the 53 man roster.
The rookie from Notre Dame, Pryor, and the other rookie from Utah, Sewell, have a chance to make the practice squad since the Saints, in my opinion, only have two good-great LB's in Davis and Werner.

I’m thinking Baun might be trade bait for a RB.

iceshack149 07-01-2022 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 954336)
I’m thinking Baun might be trade bait for a RB.

Or a late round pick...


...or cut.:(

Rugby Saint II 07-02-2022 11:26 AM

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Or a late round pick...


...or cut.:(

Baun is in the wrong system here. He needs to be traded to a 3-4 team who can utilize his skills. It's not his fault that he was drafted into a 4-3(4-2-5). If we trade him he will benefit from the move and so will we. It's a win/win for everybody.

turbo_dog 07-06-2022 10:56 AM

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I think we all know how I felt about Kwon, he will be missed! He was the perfect compliment to DD.

Pete Werner played better than I expected last season, though. He plays "heads-up" football, showed some good short yardage coverage skills, fills gaps well, and even has a little closing speed. Not sure he has the sideline to sideline range that Kwon had.

I'm really hoping D'Marco Jackson becomes a real star. Everything you see on his college film looks like a star. He looked like the best player on the field a lot, which is what you expect from an athlete in the Sunbelt conference that makes it to the next level. But even against Miami he was dominant. Fingers crossed on this young man to come in and make a difference.

All the others are a coin flip. If we could get something for Baun, do it. Ellis is a special teamer. I don't know much about the other guys but Wilson did flash a little in Minnesota.

Boston Saint 07-06-2022 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 954440)
I think we all know how I felt about Kwon, he will be missed! He was the perfect compliment to DD.

Pete Werner played better than I expected last season, though. He plays "heads-up" football, showed some good short yardage coverage skills, fills gaps well, and even has a little closing speed. Not sure he has the sideline to sideline range that Kwon had.

I'm really hoping D'Marco Jackson becomes a real star. Everything you see on his college film looks like a star. He looked like the best player on the field a lot, which is what you expect from an athlete in the Sunbelt conference that makes it to the next level. But even against Miami he was dominant. Fingers crossed on this young man to come in and make a difference.

All the others are a coin flip. If we could get something for Baun, do it. Ellis is a special teamer. I don't know much about the other guys but Wilson did flash a little in Minnesota.

Yeah, agree with most of this. I think Baun could be used in a trade for a RB or TE maybe. Interesting that Kwon is still a FA. Some team will pick him up as
training camps start and inevitable injuries happen.

turbo_dog 07-07-2022 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 954441)
Yeah, agree with most of this. I think Baun could be used in a trade for a RB or TE maybe. Interesting that Kwon is still a FA. Some team will pick him up as
training camps start and inevitable injuries happen.


I could've sworn I read he signed with a team, but some googling didn't find anything. I did learn that he played college ball at LSU, I didn't even know that.

K Major 07-07-2022 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 954440)
I think we all know how I felt about Kwon, he will be missed! He was the perfect compliment to DD.

Pete Werner played better than I expected last season, though. He plays "heads-up" football, showed some good short yardage coverage skills, fills gaps well, and even has a little closing speed. Not sure he has the sideline to sideline range that Kwon had.

I'm really hoping D'Marco Jackson becomes a real star. Everything you see on his college film looks like a star. He looked like the best player on the field a lot, which is what you expect from an athlete in the Sunbelt conference that makes it to the next level. But even against Miami he was dominant. Fingers crossed on this young man to come in and make a difference.

All the others are a coin flip. If we could get something for Baun, do it. Ellis is a special teamer. I don't know much about the other guys but Wilson did flash a little in Minnesota.

What some people don't see with Pete is that he doesn't guess on his assignments (1 missed tackle in 2021). Pete isn't nearly as athletically gifted as Kwon but was rarely out of position. Not a lot of talk or fanfare, just does his job.

As for Jackson, you may be right ... I think the coaches really like his college tape. We'll see.

Absent injury to Pete or Davis, I don't think Kwon makes a lot of sense given our cap, desire to develop our younger LBs & the Saints generally only have 2 on the field.

AsylumGuido 07-07-2022 10:18 AM

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jeanpierre 07-07-2022 01:51 PM

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One of the most irritating things to me during the Mora tenure was that everyone, fans, other teams, pundits could see obvious flaws in Mora's game planning...

Loomis & FO not trying to actively move Baun to a 3-4 team, getting an asset back for depth, or even at TE or RB that could help us this year is similar frustration...

AsylumGuido 07-07-2022 03:13 PM

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Boston Saint 07-07-2022 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 954498)
One of the most irritating things to me during the Mora tenure was that everyone, fans, other teams, pundits could see obvious flaws in Mora's game planning...

Loomis & FO not trying to actively move Baun to a 3-4 team, getting an asset back for depth, or even at TE or RB that could help us this year is similar frustration...

Exactly. Frustration is not realizing or RB group has big question marks. TE too. At least the WR group was addressed.

jeanpierre 07-07-2022 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 954481)
What some people don't see with Pete is that he doesn't guess on his assignments (1 missed tackle in 2021). Pete isn't nearly as athletically gifted as Kwon but was rarely out of position. Not a lot of talk or fanfare, just does his job.

As for Jackson, you may be right ... I think the coaches really like his college tape. We'll see.

Absent injury to Pete or Davis, I don't think Kwon makes a lot of sense given our cap, desire to develop our younger LBs & the Saints generally only have 2 on the field.

Werner is basically a younger, faster Scott Shanle...

And I'd rather have Kwon and not need him than need him and he not be available during the season...

As you say, We'll see as Training Camp and PreSeason unfolds...

Boston Saint 07-07-2022 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 954539)
Werner is basically a younger, faster Scott Shanle...

And I'd rather have Kwon and not need him than need him and he not be available during the season...

As you say, We'll see as Training Camp and PreSeason unfolds...

Agree about the need/have point you make JP. Still scratching my head a little on why he’s not in camp if for nothing else but depth. Maybe Kwon wants a little too much money? Just a thought.

turbo_dog 07-13-2022 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 954481)
What some people don't see with Pete is that he doesn't guess on his assignments (1 missed tackle in 2021). Pete isn't nearly as athletically gifted as Kwon but was rarely out of position. Not a lot of talk or fanfare, just does his job.


Exactly what I meant by "heads-up" football. You get it.

Rugby Saint II 07-14-2022 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 954513)
Exactly. Frustration is not realizing or RB group has big question marks. TE too. At least the WR group was addressed.

One thing to think about Boston, is that the team may be waiting for everything to check out around the league and see who is available at the right price before investing in what happened to be left over at the moment.

I too am worried about running back and tight end. However, DA has a pretty good plan so far. I'm willing to let it unfold and see how it develops.

Rugby Saint II 07-14-2022 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 954513)
Exactly. Frustration is not realizing or RB group has big question marks. TE too. At least the WR group was addressed.

I too am concerned about the running back and tight end positions. However, DA has put together pretty good plans so far. I'm willing to wait and see how things develop after cuts.

Crusader 07-14-2022 11:24 AM

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Werner is basically a younger, faster Scott Shanle...

That is high praise! Shanle was a very good player for us.

Rugby Saint II 07-16-2022 11:31 AM

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That is high praise! Shanle was a very good player for us.

And Warner looks to be faster than Shanley. He might even be an upgrade.

AsylumGuido 07-18-2022 11:37 AM

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Rugby Saint II 07-18-2022 01:32 PM

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I didn't realize how sparingly he was used later in the season. I wonder why that was?

AsylumGuido 07-18-2022 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 954878)
I didn't realize how sparingly he was used later in the season. I wonder why that was?

Kwon was getting the vast majority of the snaps. Probably experience while we were in contention.

Rugby Saint II 07-19-2022 11:53 AM

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And now we learn that Kwan is no longer part of the plans and l wonder if those snaps would have benefited Werner's growth.


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