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SmashMouth 07-08-2022 09:21 AM

Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason
 

neugey 07-08-2022 11:06 AM

Re: Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason
 
If I had Bezos or Warren Buffett money, I could comfortably answer "no".

SmashMouth 07-08-2022 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 954574)
If I had Bezos or Warren Buffett money, I could comfortably answer "no".

And we all thought you had mega$ ! :awe: :bng:

bobdog86 07-08-2022 12:33 PM

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Well, players leave for greener $$$ pastures, guess I ain't no different. Sorry!

stickman 07-08-2022 01:21 PM

Re: Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason
 
Which sport?

We talking NFL? NBA? MLB? NHL? Premier League? College? That might make a difference.

Boston Saint 07-08-2022 02:07 PM

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Heck yes. I could root for them and not really mean it. No different from bluffing in poker. Deep down I’ll always hate the team even if I’m dishonest about my support. I’ve felt that way about more than a few people in my life.

jnormand 07-08-2022 03:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 954583)
Heck yes. I could root for them and not really mean it. No different from bluffing in poker. Deep down I’ll always hate the team even if I’m dishonest about my support. I’ve felt that way about more than a few people in my life.

Bosty we've already established that you're a high roller. You don't need the money. I'm sorry, but if someone offered me 10 million to cheer for the clowns...I'd do it. I got kids to feed!!!! Bahahahaha!

Boston Saint 07-08-2022 03:39 PM

Re: Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 954584)
Bosty we've already established that you're a high roller. You don't need the money. I'm sorry, but if someone offered me 10 million to cheer for the clowns...I'd do it. I got kids to feed!!!! Bahahahaha!

If my poker buddies heard me called a high roller they’d crack up!

lee909 07-08-2022 05:04 PM

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Count me a millionaire

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AsylumGuido 07-08-2022 05:54 PM

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Given we are far, far closer to the end of our lives than most here and my wife and I have both worked hard to get to the point where we can spend the rest of them enjoying our Saints and whatever other passions we enjoy, I can honestly say no. Not to mention we also finally scored our dream season tickets after a fifteen year wait on the list. Had it been forty years ago, it likely would have been another answer, but I believe I would have regretted it knowing what I know now.

gulfgambler 07-08-2022 08:03 PM

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Sh*t, at my age I wouldn't have to pretend for too long

SIGN me up!

saintsfan1976 07-09-2022 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 954587)
Given we are far, far closer to the end of our lives than most here and my wife and I have both worked hard to get to the point where we can spend the rest of them enjoying our Saints and whatever other passions we enjoy, I can honestly say no. Not to mention we also finally scored our dream season tickets after a fifteen year wait on the list. Had it been forty years ago, it likely would have been another answer, but I believe I would have regretted it knowing what I know now.

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AsylumGuido 07-09-2022 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 954592)

I take it you doubt my sincerity. $10 million would not allow us to do anything or go anywhere that we are unable to visit or do today. We have no debts and no desire to relocate from our current home of 30 years. As I said, the Saints are one of our truest passions. We plan our travel around the games. I see no advantage to giving up that passion for a few extra bucks in the bank.

Rugby Saint II 07-10-2022 11:13 AM

Re: Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason
 
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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 954584)
Bosty we've already established that you're a high roller. You don't need the money. I'm sorry, but if someone offered me 10 million to cheer for the clowns...I'd do it. I got kids to feed!!!! Bahahahaha!

Who says you can't root for the saints too?? Who knows, maybe I'll get paid for that 1 too.

saintsfan1976 07-11-2022 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 954593)
I take it you doubt my sincerity. $10 million would not allow us to do anything or go anywhere that we are unable to visit or do today. We have no debts and no desire to relocate from our current home of 30 years. As I said, the Saints are one of our truest passions. We plan our travel around the games. I see no advantage to giving up that passion for a few extra bucks in the bank.

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AsylumGuido 07-11-2022 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 954625)

I don't get what you are taking as a lie, 1976. :confused: The Saints have been an integral part of my life for some 55 years. I am at a point in my life where I have both the time and the resources required to enjoy that passion to the fullest. While $10 million is a decent sum of money, it is not a life altering amount that would have me throw away 55 years of a given passion and then on top of that root for a team I have despised for most of my life. We reached a point, now 17 years ago, where we knew we could easily afford both the time and money to get season tickets and make the five plus hour drive to and from New Orleans. At that point we placed our name on the waiting list which was at that time over 50,000 names long. Our name finally came up prior to last season. As miserable as last season was it was still well worth the investment to be a part of the game day experience.

I get that for someone a good deal younger, with less of their life wrapped up in supporting the Saints, and at an earlier stage of financial stability, the allure of the money could completely alter their life and the sacrifice would be minimal in comparison. Heck, there have been several that have turned their backs on the Saints for something as trivial as politics.

Boston Saint 07-11-2022 09:58 AM

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I knew this thread was going to go interesting places ! 😛

iceshack149 07-11-2022 12:50 PM

Re: Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 954627)
I don't get what you are taking as a lie, 1976. :confused: The Saints have been an integral part of my life for some 55 years. I am at a point in my life where I have both the time and the resources required to enjoy that passion to the fullest. While $10 million is a decent sum of money, it is not a life altering amount that would have me throw away 55 years of a given passion and then on top of that root for a team I have despised for most of my life. We reached a point, now 17 years ago, where we knew we could easily afford both the time and money to get season tickets and make the five plus hour drive to and from New Orleans. At that point we placed our name on the waiting list which was at that time over 50,000 names long. Our name finally came up prior to last season. As miserable as last season was it was still well worth the investment to be a part of the game day experience.

I get that for someone a good deal younger, with less of their life wrapped up in supporting the Saints, and at an earlier stage of financial stability, the allure of the money could completely alter their life and the sacrifice would be minimal in comparison. Heck, there have been several that have turned their backs on the Saints for something as trivial as politics.


Let's see...
Arrogant--check
Condescending--check
Smug--check
Holier-than-thou--check


You're our elephant in the room and you know it.
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saintsfan1976 07-11-2022 02:01 PM

Re: Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 954627)
I don't get what you are taking as a lie, 1976. :confused: The Saints have been an integral part of my life for some 55 years. I am at a point in my life where I have both the time and the resources required to enjoy that passion to the fullest. While $10 million is a decent sum of money, it is not a life altering amount that would have me throw away 55 years of a given passion and then on top of that root for a team I have despised for most of my life. We reached a point, now 17 years ago, where we knew we could easily afford both the time and money to get season tickets and make the five plus hour drive to and from New Orleans. At that point we placed our name on the waiting list which was at that time over 50,000 names long. Our name finally came up prior to last season. As miserable as last season was it was still well worth the investment to be a part of the game day experience.

I get that for someone a good deal younger, with less of their life wrapped up in supporting the Saints, and at an earlier stage of financial stability, the allure of the money could completely alter their life and the sacrifice would be minimal in comparison. Heck, there have been several that have turned their backs on the Saints for something as trivial as politics.

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AsylumGuido 07-11-2022 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 954648)

Your prerogative. The situation is likely not to occur so it matters not what you believe.

AsylumGuido 07-11-2022 02:13 PM

Re: Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 954645)
Let's see...
Arrogant--check
Condescending--check
Smug--check
Holier-than-thou--check


You're our elephant in the room and you know it.
https://c.tenor.com/3v6ID6geY1sAAAAd...t-bluehair.gif

If you have such a problem with me then PLEASE put me on ignore.

iceshack149 07-11-2022 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 954651)
If you have such a problem with me then PLEASE put me on ignore.

I've never used the "ignore" feature. I've been told that ignoring a problem won't make it go away but for you I'll make an exception. You are a problem and you are indeed aware of it but you just won't go away.

AsylumGuido 07-11-2022 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 954652)
I've never used the "ignore" feature. I've been told that ignoring a problem won't make it go away but for you I'll make an exception. You are a problem and you are indeed aware of it but you just won't go away.

I am happy for you that your life is so void of problems that you feel I am of some significance in comparison! :chug:

saintsfan1976 07-11-2022 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 954650)
Your prerogative. The situation is likely not to occur so it matters not what you believe.

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AsylumGuido 07-11-2022 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 954654)

Sorry, don't get the relevance there.

:confused:

Boston Saint 07-11-2022 02:48 PM

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Guido holds to the idea that only saintfan and I have had issues with him.

Like Nowak says in his article “ I wouldn’t trust anyone who says no to the question”. Here is why…

if a person was in the financial position that 10 Mill would not sway them in cheering for a team, then they are being short sighted and selfish to those they could make a difference to. Rather than act like a superfan douche who is above it all, they could donate the 10 mill to Gleason’s foundation or any of the other multiple player’s causes and do some good in the Organization’s name all for the price of acting like a Falcon, Niner, Bucs etc fan while deep inside they still pull for the Saints. So, saying “No”makes a person either dishonest or petty. I wouldn’t trust either one.

jnormand 07-11-2022 03:19 PM

Re: Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 954652)
I've never used the "ignore" feature. I've been told that ignoring a problem won't make it go away but for you I'll make an exception. You are a problem and you are indeed aware of it but you just won't go away.


It doesn't work with him. He's on here so much and gets into it with people so often that you see his posts that are quoted anyway. So...yeah. I speak from experience. Lol

AsylumGuido 07-11-2022 03:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 954656)
Guido holds to the idea that only saintfan and I have had issues with him.

Like Nowak says in his article “ I wouldn’t trust anyone who says no to the question”. Here is why…

if a person was in the financial position that 10 Mill would not sway them in cheering for a team, then they are being short sighted and selfish to those they could make a difference to. Rather than act like a superfan douche who is above it all, they could donate the 10 mill to Gleason’s foundation or any of the other multiple player’s causes and do some good in the Organization’s name all for the price of acting like a Falcon, Niner, Bucs etc fan while deep inside they still pull for the Saints. So, saying “No”makes a person either dishonest or petty. I wouldn’t trust either one.

We already donate to several charities, including TeamGleason.org, and have since it started. The fact is that the scenario will never happen. But, if one ever did and had a significant amount associated, perhaps it would be considered. I don't know. I simply know with the exact scenario presented it would not be worth the personal sacrifice.

The whole scenario, however, deals with how willing a person is to sell their loyalty. There are several factors involved. My loyalty to the Saints is engrained to my core. It includes going to the games and sitting in the very seats I have waited to sit in for almost two decades. It involves doing whatever is needed to watch those games I cannot attend in person. It includes wearing some article of Saints themed clothing almost every day for over three decades. I'm not going to lie to myself and others by pretending to pull for another team and deny the pure pleasure of following the team I love just for some extra money that would just be used as some tax write-off or earning interest. An important part of our lives involve actively supporting the Saints. We gain a great deal of enjoyment from that and have worked hard to get to that point.

The author, Jeff Novak, is shortsighted. He sees the world through the eyes of someone with most of their life in front of them. Someone who has most likely not experienced the sort of commitment that a deep down fan has enjoyed.

Would you do it for $10? $100? $1,000? $10,000? $100,000? What is your point of no longer being a Saints fan?

Boston Saint 07-11-2022 04:16 PM

Re: Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 954659)
We already donate to several charities, including TeamGleason.org, and have since it started. The fact is that the scenario will never happen. But, if one ever did and had a significant amount associated, perhaps it would be considered. I don't know. I simply know with the exact scenario presented it would not be worth the personal sacrifice.

The whole scenario, however, deals with how willing a person is to sell their loyalty. There are several factors involved. My loyalty to the Saints is engrained to my core. It includes going to the games and sitting in the very seats I have waited to sit in for almost two decades. It involves doing whatever is needed to watch those games I cannot attend in person. It includes wearing some article of Saints themed clothing almost every day for over three decades. I'm not going to lie to myself and others by pretending to pull for another team and deny the pure pleasure of following the team I love just for some extra money that would just be used as some tax write-off or earning interest. An important part of our lives involve actively supporting the Saints. We gain a great deal of enjoyment from that and have worked hard to get to that point.

The author, Jeff Novak, is shortsighted. He sees the world through the eyes of someone with most of their life in front of them. Someone who has most likely not experienced the sort of commitment that a deep down fan has enjoyed.

Would you do it for $10? $100? $1,000? $10,000? $100,000? What is your point of no longer being a Saints fan?

I don’t care what you donate. You could donate 10 mill more if you weren’t a douche. That’s the point of the post.

AsylumGuido 07-11-2022 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 954660)
I don’t care what you donate. You could donate 10 mill more if you weren’t a douche. That’s the point of the post.

Are you a douche because you chose not to give every spare penny to charity? No. I doubt you are.

But, no. The point of the post was what it would take for you sell out on your team affiliation.

Look at it this way. What is your greatest passion beside your family? Would you give that up forever for $10 million? I know people that have a passion for reading. I doubt they'd be willing to never read another book for $10 million. I know people who live for fishing. I know for certain many would never give it up forever for $10 million. The same with people who golf, sail, bike, hunt, collect cars, hike, cruise, travel, play poker, etc. That is their passion and they worked their whole lives to retire and enjoy that passion. Are they being selfish? Hell, yeah. And they have every right to be selfish.

jnormand 07-11-2022 10:02 PM

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Bahahahaha!!

Rugby Saint II 07-12-2022 07:54 AM

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Now, what was the question again.? I think we got off track.


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