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Apparently even with the distractions of the extensive soundproofing of his basement and his efforts to revive Jerry Sandusky's charitable foundation, Roger Goodell still had time to think of new ways to screw the Saints. There has never been an 11 game suspension in the history of the nfl. Its an odd number and makes no sense. But who is Cleveland’s 11th game against, post bye, week 12? Tampa Bay and Tom Brady! So Watson misses games against Atlanta, Carolina, and Tampa Bay, then plays against the Saints! Clearly it was no accident that Roger Goodell put the Saints last in their division on the Browns schedule, but making sure he only played against the Saints was no easy task. Has he been suspended all season there would be no way to particularly harm the Saints. Had be been suspended 10 games or less he would have played Tampa too. But had the settlement offer been 12 games or more he might have refused and ended up suspended all season or only 6-10 games. So 11 games was a specific message to the Saints. I hope one of the kids escapes and points the cops to Goodell’s house!

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The 11 games was all about the money. That gives him six games and the year counts toward his contract term.

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Gotta screw the Saints when you can.

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With the way Watson looked in last week's game, not letting our NFC South opponents face him would be a good thing. He looked like total crap.

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That just proves this was very premeditated on Roger Goodell’s part. He set it up so the exact length of suspension Watson would have to accept resulted in a last minute settlement of Watson not facing the Saints most important rival and only facing the Saints. He could have scheduled Tampa week 13. He could have put the Browns bye later. He could have scheduled the Saints week 10. He could have refuses to settle and instead suspended Watson for the season. He did none of these things. He never wanted a year suspension, that was all show. The victims dont matter to Goodell any more than his own victims matter to him when he is digging shallow graves. What matters to him is the most embarrassing thing that ever happened to him with his clothes on, being overruled by the evidence when he allowed a truly neutral judge in Paul Tagliaboue to get overrule his bountygate suspensions. There is no way all this comes to an 11 game supension with Tampa the 11th game, a few games of action to warm up, and then Watson at full speed against the Saints, unless Goodell planned it this way from the start.

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One drive in the preseason means nothing. Blaine Gabbert and Matt Barkley looked great. Tom Brady might have had a bad drive if he didnt take the week off to shower Goodell with taxidermied animals in lobbying for this favorable settlement.

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Goodell doesn't make the schedule. There's a whole team of analysts with a computer simulation that generates workable schedules based upon venue availability and other factors. After weeks worth of simulations they narrow the choices down to a couple of possibilities. Even at that point they have a favorite and it is then blessed by Goodell after seeing it for the first time. There's a whole documentary covering the entire process that I am sure you can find via Google. :D

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It’s either planned or one hell of a set of “coincidences”.

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Simply negotiated. Watson's lawyers wanted the year to count and not have the contract toll to 2023. The league wanted as long of a suspension as possible. 11 games fit both requirements. The mandated counseling was a concession by Watson's side. The reduction of the fine from $10 million to $5 million was a concession by the league.

The only coincidence was the fact that first game back would be against the Texans. If the schedule came into play at all it would be for the fact that all of the other three AFC North teams have to face him the same one game each ... Cincy and Baltimore the two weeks before the Saints, and Pittsburgh the final week of the season.

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Goodell signs the paychecks of everyone involved with making the schedule. Venue availability can occasionally be an issue but like goodell’s basement, it may be locked down a few weekends when loud music is playing, but if he gets in a bad mood capacity quickly opens up. With bye weeks, home and road games, etc there would be thousands of possibilities and ultimately the guy writing the checks can get whatever result he wants.

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Sure he can. LOL!

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This Browns team doesn't scare me with or without Desean.

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Ditto.

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I’m sure people said the same thing about Carolina last year SG before they beat the Saints. But that’s not the point bako is making either way.

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The 11 game suspension also makes it less likely that the Browns will get another qb. Clearly Watson > Garrapalo > Brissett. Had the suspension been a full season, the Browns may have sprung for Garrapalo. But with 11 games, the rest of our division gets Brisset and we get Watson, who when he left the league was an mvp caliber qb. The browns with an mvp caliber qb do scare me. Myles Garret is good. They have the most depth at RB in the league. They have decent receivers. Sleeping on the Browns is like sleeping around Bill Cosby or Roger Goodell. You may wake up in a nightmare.

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Well, yeah any given Sunday of course.
I'm just saying I don't think it's that big of a disadvantage that he is playing. Our secondary is going to feast this year + he's not the most accurate

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Probably so. I take bako’s point as being it’s just another example of the league having an issue outside of the Saints control that ends up working against them. It’s funny that seemingly 9 times out of 10 it falls that way for them. Can’t remember this sort of thing happening to other teams as much.

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You'd be surprised. I've been around other team forums for almost two decades in some cases and their members make exactly the same arguments. Their teams are always getting screwed by the league, games were fixed against them, the refs are always out to get them, etc. You only hear about the breaks that go against your team and never the things that are to your team's advantage.

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Yeah. People don't seem to remember that he was only able to win four games in 16 starts the last season playing.

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Yeah some guy named Jack Easterbunny was the president of the Texans. How many games would Maholmes win if somebody hired a washed up chaplain who lied on his resume to run the team and he traded away all the other good players for injured people and mid round picks. Plus Easterbunny wanted to hire Josh McCown with no experience as head coach but they wouldnt let him so he hired some other nobody candidate nobody wanted. It was insane. They got rid of everyone for nothing and were trying to run Watson out of town before the scandal came up.

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What kind of meds are you on? Or not on? :D

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I am not the one dressed up as a pirate. Jack Easterby dismantled the texans. He traded DeAndre Hopkins for a day 2 pick and a hurt running back. He hired a search committee to find a real GM, then ignored all their candidates and hired his own buddy. He is a disaster.

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Dressed up as a pirate? Okay. :crazy:

And exactly what does any of that have to do with the Deshaun Watson discipline and how it is part of some nefarious scheme to destroy the Saints?

:smokin:

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To think that Goodell altered a players suspension to screw a particular team is a serious stretch. If by some crazy, alternate universe chance that he’s out to screw the Saints, it most likely because of Payton and last I checked he’s not a part of this team anymore.
Besides how is it screwing us snyways when we’re gonna have the #1 secondary? I feel sorry for opposing QBs...well not really

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If I were this remaining lady in the civil suit, I demand to go to trial and refuse to settle unless it's 5 billion dollars. The Browns and Watson are between a rock and a hard place (through absolute fault of their own).

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Goodel doesn’t care about the Saints. It is a 12 week suspension that has a Bye in week 9. Even if you could argue a bias against the Saints it would be because of personnel not a logo and we have changed ownership and head coach in the last 4 years.

I’d rather beat a team with their QB on the field.

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I wish this were the case as it would mean Loomis was gone and we didnt trade away all our draft picks. But some personnel remain. Also the NFL has held a grudge against the Raiders too for years. Al David died and still the NFL leaked only one thing from the Dan Snyder investigation, Jon Grudens texts. Anyone who thinks Goodell is neutral after bountygate, the no call, and continued BS like this is probably really a Falcons fan trolling this board.

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Hope springs eternal?

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Or not hyper paranoid.

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I think you lost the thread Guido:

"The Saints don't need to worry about the Browns with Watson."
"Watson isn't a good QB. He only won 4 games in his last season."
"The Texans were/are messed up because of Easterby. That's why there's all the losses."

It's just foolish to think that because Watson's Texans won 4 games, that he's not a dangerous QB. I still remember the heroics the Saints had to pull off the last time they played the Watson led Texans. The Browns have talent in each and every position group. They are also well coached now. They are going to be a very dangerous team in 2022. And especially so the last 6 games with Watson at the controls.

SFIAH

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I know some folks like a good, juicy 'NFL deep state conspiracy', but in the end, wasn't this a negotiated settlement between the NFLPA and the NFL (not a Goodell edict)?

I'm reminded of an old saying: A conspiracy involves at least two or more parties. The reason they rarely work is that someone ALWAYS tells.

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Possibly. But I doubt there is a single meaningful thing that happens in the league that doesn’t have Roger’s stamp of approval…officially or unofficially.

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We've been burned so many times, can you blame us?

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I think the thread started out lost, SFIAH. :D

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1. Don’t think it’s a conspiracy.

2. Watson is a dangerous QB, and not just in the massage room.

3. We should beat the Browns with or without Watson, but mobile Quarterbacks give us problems. This is especially true if they run the read option. See Philadelphia who always manages to have the rare great running game against the Saints.

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+5 rez!!! 🤣

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A Doomsday scenario for you: Brissett has career year, and after week 11 has a high QBR, 19 TD's and 3 INT's and Browns are 8-3. The civil case is still open or in progress and Watson is still dismissive and 'standing on innocence'. Suddenly in the midst of playoff positioning you're prompted to change to a 200 million dollar QB who hasn't played in 2 years. Very few people in the media, fan base and locker room will be accepting of Watson. Watson and the Browns management will be out on a limb in the middle of a tsunami.

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We're talking Browns' here. They'll start Watson right away come Hell or high water.