Who Makes The Cut? --- List of cuts here as they announce them

SmashMouth · 08-31-2022, 11:23 AM

turbo_dog · 08-31-2022, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83

The issue with Baun is they’re not using him right. He’s a stand up pass rushing lb/de. He was one of the top pass rushers in college. Now trying to play sideline to sideline lb. Square peg round hole

Even if this is true, I'd take him over Elliss.

K Major · 08-31-2022, 06:01 PM

Update - Dwayne Washington was released (per Underhill).

bobdog86 · 08-31-2022, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Update - Dwayne Washington was released (per Underhill).

Saw that, wonder what the heck is up with that?

Crusader · 09-01-2022, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by bobdog86

Saw that, wonder what the heck is up with that?

He isn't a very good RB. Thats probably all there is to it.

K Major · 09-01-2022, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by bobdog86

Saw that, wonder what the heck is up with that?

Signed to the Saints practice squad today

jnormand · 09-01-2022, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

Even if this is true, I'd take him over Elliss.

I thought I heard Elliss was playing pretty good this preseason....

Rugby Saint II · 09-04-2022, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

Even if this is true, I'd take him over Elliss.

Just curious, but what makes you say that? From my untrained eye Ellis has gotten better each year and looked pretty good this training camp. He has had a few flaws like his coverage that he's been better at. I like Baun but the poor fella' was drafted into the wrong system and we don't utilize him like he needs to be. We are trying to coach him up and we have the coaches to do that, but his ceiling is very low and I'm actually surprised that we didn't trade him this year.

It seems like we have a bad habit in the Saints front office of trying to change young players positions, but we aren't highly successful at it. Baun is another case of round peg/square hole.

iceshack149 · 09-05-2022, 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://twitter.com/RossJacksonNOLA/...14912735285249

I’ll be honest; I saw this picture when the Saints picked him up this spring and thought “this clown doesn’t have a shot”. I was wrong! I hope he continues to improve and becomes a solid player… for the Saints.

turbo_dog · 09-06-2022, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Just curious, but what makes you say that? From my untrained eye Ellis has gotten better each year and looked pretty good this training camp. He has had a few flaws like his coverage that he's been better at. I like Baun but the poor fella' was drafted into the wrong system and we don't utilize him like he needs to be. We are trying to coach him up and we have the coaches to do that, but his ceiling is very low and I'm actually surprised that we didn't trade him this year.

It seems like we have a bad habit in the Saints front office of trying to change young players positions, but we aren't highly successful at it. Baun is another case of round peg/square hole.

I've written some things in various threads. I closely watched Ellis in the preseason, even rewinding and pausing the play to see things like positioning, getting off blocks, is his head still watching the backfield, etc. Ellis was rarely near the ball with a chance to make a play. He did not seem to understand where the ball was going, or how to work in lanes to get to a runner. In pass coverage he seemed lost, as well.

I tried to find some stats to back up what I'm writing. I couldn't find snap counts for this preseason. In three games played, where I thought it seemed Ellis played at least most of the first half each week, he had a total of 3 tackles. By comparison, Jon Bostic, who only played in two games, had 11 tackles. Bostic came into camp late and Ellis has been on the team for a few years. Eric Wilson had 11 tackles in his preseason snaps. Chase Hansen played in two games and had 8 tackles and an interception.

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08-31-2022, 01:32 PM	#92
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	Re: Who Makes The Cut? --- List of cuts here as they announce them Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 The issue with Baun is they’re not using him right. He’s a stand up pass rushing lb/de. He was one of the top pass rushers in college. Now trying to play sideline to sideline lb. Square peg round hole Even if this is true, I'd take him over Elliss. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Who Makes The Cut? --- List of cuts here as they announce them Originally Posted by bobdog86 Saw that, wonder what the heck is up with that? Signed to the Saints practice squad today

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09-05-2022, 02:23 AM	#99
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,258 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Who Makes The Cut? --- List of cuts here as they announce them Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://twitter.com/RossJacksonNOLA/...14912735285249 I’ll be honest; I saw this picture when the Saints picked him up this spring and thought “this clown doesn’t have a shot”. I was wrong! I hope he continues to improve and becomes a solid player… for the Saints.

09-06-2022, 11:39 AM	#100
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	Re: Who Makes The Cut? --- List of cuts here as they announce them Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Just curious, but what makes you say that? From my untrained eye Ellis has gotten better each year and looked pretty good this training camp. He has had a few flaws like his coverage that he's been better at. I like Baun but the poor fella' was drafted into the wrong system and we don't utilize him like he needs to be. We are trying to coach him up and we have the coaches to do that, but his ceiling is very low and I'm actually surprised that we didn't trade him this year. It seems like we have a bad habit in the Saints front office of trying to change young players positions, but we aren't highly successful at it. Baun is another case of round peg/square hole. I've written some things in various threads. I closely watched Ellis in the preseason, even rewinding and pausing the play to see things like positioning, getting off blocks, is his head still watching the backfield, etc. Ellis was rarely near the ball with a chance to make a play. He did not seem to understand where the ball was going, or how to work in lanes to get to a runner. In pass coverage he seemed lost, as well. I tried to find some stats to back up what I'm writing. I couldn't find snap counts for this preseason. In three games played, where I thought it seemed Ellis played at least most of the first half each week, he had a total of 3 tackles. By comparison, Jon Bostic, who only played in two games, had 11 tackles. Bostic came into camp late and Ellis has been on the team for a few years. Eric Wilson had 11 tackles in his preseason snaps. Chase Hansen played in two games and had 8 tackles and an interception. jnormand and K Major like this.