Thursday Night Football Game Night Thread - Bills @ Rams

neugey · 09-09-2022, 06:02 AM

Bills run defense and pass rush looks very legit this year. Glad we're not playing them in the regular season.

hitta · 09-09-2022, 06:10 AM

I've thought for a while Allen is the future of the league. He will outdo Mahomes. He'll be the MVP this season and will win multiple MVPs. I think we can win a Superbowl but it's never going to happen by outdueling Allen. The defense will have to put up an outstanding performance against him. He's the best in the game right now and will only get better.

SmashMouth · 09-09-2022, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by hitta

I've thought for a while Allen is the future of the league. He will outdo Mahomes. He'll be the MVP this season and will win multiple MVPs. I think we can win a Superbowl but it's never going to happen by outdueling Allen. The defense will have to put up an outstanding performance against him. He's the best in the game right now and will only get better.

Maybe ... It's still early, however .

hitta · 09-09-2022, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Maybe ... It's still early, however .

I think Allen is more clutch than Mahomes and I just overall like him better. He should have lost to Allen last year, which I think everyone can agree on I just think the dude is good. He and Burrow are the two guys that will end up with more SBs than Mahomes(as long as the Bengals get Burrow some protection).

I think Winston COULD be good, but he has to find that middle ground in his game. When Winston was at Tampa he was way too aggressive with his throws. Last year I felt like he never got comfortable with taking the big shot as if he was afraid of throwing the INT. You can't play scared and you can't be a gunslinger. Winston has to figure out that middle ground. If he does he can rise up in this league. It's a mental thing with him. The light switch is either on or off. It's a fixable problem, but it's going to have required him to put a lot of work into it. I noticed this from the first time he touched the ball last year. We won because we have a really good roster.

BakoSaint · 09-10-2022, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by hitta

I think Winston COULD be good, but he has to find that middle ground in his game. When Winston was at Tampa he was way too aggressive with his throws. Last year I felt like he never got comfortable with taking the big shot as if he was afraid of throwing the INT.

Winston’s problem last year was Tom Brady’s problem in 2019 and may be Rodgers or Maholmes problem this year. Anyone would be tentative and mediocre when they don’t have any receivers who would make the team on the 2022 Jets. You can’t complete passes to your own positive thinking, you need actual receivers who get open enough to believe your eyes when it happens.

AsylumGuido · 09-10-2022, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Winston’s problem last year was Tom Brady’s problem in 2019 and may be Rodgers or Maholmes problem this year. Anyone would be tentative and mediocre when they don’t have any receivers who would make the team on the 2022 Jets. You can’t complete passes to your own positive thinking, you need actual receivers who get open enough to believe your eyes when it happens.

Now that I can agree with.

SmashMouth · 09-10-2022, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Winston’s problem last year was Tom Brady’s problem in 2019 and may be Rodgers or Maholmes problem this year. Anyone would be tentative and mediocre when they don’t have any receivers who would make the team on the 2022 Jets. You can’t complete passes to your own positive thinking, you need actual receivers who get open enough to believe your eyes when it happens.

Our WR room is the most talented it's ever been, and also the most talented JW has ever worked with. We ought to see something special this year .

Boston Saint · 09-10-2022, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Winston’s problem last year was Tom Brady’s problem in 2019 and may be Rodgers or Maholmes problem this year. Anyone would be tentative and mediocre when they don’t have any receivers who would make the team on the 2022 Jets. You can’t complete passes to your own positive thinking, you need actual receivers who get open enough to believe your eyes when it happens.

This and he was drilled by Payton to be careful with his throws so much it held him back. Plus, having the best receiving back in the game.

AsylumGuido · 09-10-2022, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by hitta

I think Winston COULD be good, but he has to find that middle ground in his game. When Winston was at Tampa he was way too aggressive with his throws. Last year I felt like he never got comfortable with taking the big shot as if he was afraid of throwing the INT. You can't play scared and you can't be a gunslinger. Winston has to figure out that middle ground. If he does he can rise up in this league. It's a mental thing with him. The light switch is either on or off. It's a fixable problem, but it's going to have required him to put a lot of work into it. I noticed this from the first time he touched the ball last year. We won because we have a really good roster.

I believe there is a common misconception here. It wasn't wasn't solely Winston himself that was the source of his aggressiveness in the passing game. It was more dependent upon two factors ... the result of being cursed with a historically sorry defense and an offensive philosophy that included taking chances with the "no risk it, no biscuit" approach. You have to be aggressive when you are always trailing by 14 points in the 4th quarter.

subguy · 09-09-2022, 07:22 AM

First game aside... the Bills looked solid. The entire game had a first game vibe to me.

09-09-2022, 06:02 AM	#1
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,859 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Thursday Night Football Game Night Thread - Bills @ Rams Bills run defense and pass rush looks very legit this year. Glad we're not playing them in the regular season.

09-09-2022, 06:10 AM	#2
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,339	Re: Thursday Night Football Game Night Thread - Bills @ Rams I've thought for a while Allen is the future of the league. He will outdo Mahomes. He'll be the MVP this season and will win multiple MVPs. I think we can win a Superbowl but it's never going to happen by outdueling Allen. The defense will have to put up an outstanding performance against him. He's the best in the game right now and will only get better.
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09-09-2022, 06:57 AM	#3
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,816 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Thursday Night Football Game Night Thread - Bills @ Rams Originally Posted by hitta I've thought for a while Allen is the future of the league. He will outdo Mahomes. He'll be the MVP this season and will win multiple MVPs. I think we can win a Superbowl but it's never going to happen by outdueling Allen. The defense will have to put up an outstanding performance against him. He's the best in the game right now and will only get better. Maybe ... It's still early, however .

09-09-2022, 10:51 PM	#4
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,339	Re: Thursday Night Football Game Night Thread - Bills @ Rams Originally Posted by SmashMouth Maybe ... It's still early, however . I think Allen is more clutch than Mahomes and I just overall like him better. He should have lost to Allen last year, which I think everyone can agree on I just think the dude is good. He and Burrow are the two guys that will end up with more SBs than Mahomes(as long as the Bengals get Burrow some protection). I think Winston COULD be good, but he has to find that middle ground in his game. When Winston was at Tampa he was way too aggressive with his throws. Last year I felt like he never got comfortable with taking the big shot as if he was afraid of throwing the INT. You can't play scared and you can't be a gunslinger. Winston has to figure out that middle ground. If he does he can rise up in this league. It's a mental thing with him. The light switch is either on or off. It's a fixable problem, but it's going to have required him to put a lot of work into it. I noticed this from the first time he touched the ball last year. We won because we have a really good roster. jnormand likes this.
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09-10-2022, 12:39 AM	#5
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,392	Re: Thursday Night Football Game Night Thread - Bills @ Rams Originally Posted by hitta I think Winston COULD be good, but he has to find that middle ground in his game. When Winston was at Tampa he was way too aggressive with his throws. Last year I felt like he never got comfortable with taking the big shot as if he was afraid of throwing the INT. Winston’s problem last year was Tom Brady’s problem in 2019 and may be Rodgers or Maholmes problem this year. Anyone would be tentative and mediocre when they don’t have any receivers who would make the team on the 2022 Jets. You can’t complete passes to your own positive thinking, you need actual receivers who get open enough to believe your eyes when it happens. AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and Boston Saint like this.
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09-10-2022, 08:33 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Thursday Night Football Game Night Thread - Bills @ Rams Originally Posted by BakoSaint Winston’s problem last year was Tom Brady’s problem in 2019 and may be Rodgers or Maholmes problem this year. Anyone would be tentative and mediocre when they don’t have any receivers who would make the team on the 2022 Jets. You can’t complete passes to your own positive thinking, you need actual receivers who get open enough to believe your eyes when it happens. Now that I can agree with.

09-10-2022, 10:36 AM	#7
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,816 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Thursday Night Football Game Night Thread - Bills @ Rams Originally Posted by BakoSaint Winston’s problem last year was Tom Brady’s problem in 2019 and may be Rodgers or Maholmes problem this year. Anyone would be tentative and mediocre when they don’t have any receivers who would make the team on the 2022 Jets. You can’t complete passes to your own positive thinking, you need actual receivers who get open enough to believe your eyes when it happens. Our WR room is the most talented it's ever been, and also the most talented JW has ever worked with. We ought to see something special this year . jnormand and Boston Saint like this.

09-10-2022, 11:22 AM	#8
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Thursday Night Football Game Night Thread - Bills @ Rams Originally Posted by BakoSaint Winston’s problem last year was Tom Brady’s problem in 2019 and may be Rodgers or Maholmes problem this year. Anyone would be tentative and mediocre when they don’t have any receivers who would make the team on the 2022 Jets. You can’t complete passes to your own positive thinking, you need actual receivers who get open enough to believe your eyes when it happens. This and he was drilled by Payton to be careful with his throws so much it held him back. Plus, having the best receiving back in the game.

09-10-2022, 08:41 AM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Thursday Night Football Game Night Thread - Bills @ Rams Originally Posted by hitta I think Winston COULD be good, but he has to find that middle ground in his game. When Winston was at Tampa he was way too aggressive with his throws. Last year I felt like he never got comfortable with taking the big shot as if he was afraid of throwing the INT. You can't play scared and you can't be a gunslinger. Winston has to figure out that middle ground. If he does he can rise up in this league. It's a mental thing with him. The light switch is either on or off. It's a fixable problem, but it's going to have required him to put a lot of work into it. I noticed this from the first time he touched the ball last year. We won because we have a really good roster. I believe there is a common misconception here. It wasn't wasn't solely Winston himself that was the source of his aggressiveness in the passing game. It was more dependent upon two factors ... the result of being cursed with a historically sorry defense and an offensive philosophy that included taking chances with the "no risk it, no biscuit" approach. You have to be aggressive when you are always trailing by 14 points in the 4th quarter.

09-09-2022, 07:22 AM	#10
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,103	Re: Thursday Night Football Game Night Thread - Bills @ Rams First game aside... the Bills looked solid. The entire game had a first game vibe to me. SmashMouth likes this.