Observations from the Saints come-behind win against Falcons

AsylumGuido · 09-13-2022, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I would have thought a 96 Million dollar contract to play football pretty good fuel. But hey, that’s just me.

I wouldn't want a player that is fueled by the money. But, hey, that's just me. Or is it? I would hope that money is the least driving force for the players on my team.

Boston Saint · 09-13-2022, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I wouldn't want a player that is fueled by the money. But, hey, that's just me. Or is it? I would hope that money is the least driving force for the players on my team.

So, you don’t believe in honoring a contract. Not surprising.

AsylumGuido · 09-13-2022, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

So, you don’t believe in honoring a contract. Not surprising.

Now where the hell did I say that?

I want every player on my team to be fueled by the desire to win. I want them to be driven by the desire to be great. I want them to want to be a great teammate. I don't want them to be in it for the money. Apparently you disagree. You think the money should be their most important motivation? More so than all the other more noble motivations?

Okay.

Boston Saint · 09-13-2022, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Now where the hell did I say that?

I want every player on my team to be fueled by the desire to win. I want them to be driven by the desire to be great. I want them to want to be a great teammate. I don't want them to be in it for the money. Apparently you disagree. You think the money should be their most important motivation? More so than all the other more noble motivations?

Okay.

No, it’s called work ethic. You agree to do a job you are paid to do then you do it. None of these players play for free. They don’t play if they are not under contract. They hold out if they feel underpaid. But he is hardly underpaid. I NEVER said it was the most important factor. It’s a matter of integrity
in doing your best.

mapcow · 09-13-2022, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Now where the hell did I say that?

I want every player on my team to be fueled by the desire to win. I want them to be driven by the desire to be great. I want them to want to be a great teammate. I don't want them to be in it for the money. Apparently you disagree. You think the money should be their most important motivation? More so than all the other more noble motivations?

Okay.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 09-13-2022, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

So, you don’t believe in honoring a contract. Not surprising.

Honoring contracts in the NFL is bunk. NFL teams sign contracts all the time that they have no intention of honoring. Teams will cut players in a hot minute as long as its expedient and doesn't damage their salary cap.

As such, I have no problem with NFL players demanding more guarantees, and bogarting their way into better situations when teams balk. It's a business and a livelihood for players, not just a slavish devotion to a team like we fans have.

And exactly where did MT13 not honor his contract. The player was injured and the recommended course of action for recovery didn't work as expected. That's not breaking a contract.

While I understand fans want to see their favorite players, the fact that they are unavailable doesn't make those players horrible people and contract breakers.

SFIAH

Boston Saint · 09-13-2022, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Honoring contracts in the NFL is bunk. NFL teams sign contracts all the time that they have no intention of honoring. Teams will cut players in a hot minute as long as its expedient and doesn't damage their salary cap.

As such, I have no problem with NFL players demanding more guarantees, and bogarting their way into better situations when teams balk. It's a business and a livelihood for players, not just a slavish devotion to a team like we fans have.

And exactly where did MT13 not honor his contract. The player was injured and the recommended course of action for recovery didn't work as expected. That's not breaking a contract.

While I understand fans want to see their favorite players, the fact that they are unavailable doesn't make those players horrible people and contract breakers.

SFIAH

That’s why I said That’s just me. I fully well realize that I don’t work and live in the NFL world. I also fully realize that many of these players are prima donnas. I also fully realize that the billionaire owners are only looking out for themselves and trying to scam us fans of every dollar.

My point, that was apparently too subtle for some of you to catch, was that it’s fairly ridiculous IMO to write an article about what fuels a man that is getting paid that much money to play a friggin child’s game. More important people go out and do much more important jobs than that for much less money and they do it with pride and honor and don’t need to be fueled by anything much more than the paycheck.

subguy · 09-13-2022, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

That’s why I said That’s just me. I fully well realize that I don’t work and live in the NFL world. I also fully realize that many of these players are prima donnas. I also fully realize that the billionaire owners are only looking out for themselves and trying to scam us fans of every dollar.

My point, that was apparently too subtle for some of you to catch, was that it’s fairly ridiculous IMO to write an article about what fuels a man that is getting paid that much money to play a friggin child’s game. More important people go out and do much more important jobs than that for much less money and they do it with pride and honor and don’t need to be fueled by anything much more than the paycheck.

No denying we place more value in being entertained than most anything else. Sad really...

09-13-2022, 12:35 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: What fueled New Orleans Saints' Michael Thomas after 20-month absence Originally Posted by Boston Saint I would have thought a 96 Million dollar contract to play football pretty good fuel. But hey, that’s just me. I wouldn't want a player that is fueled by the money. But, hey, that's just me. Or is it? I would hope that money is the least driving force for the players on my team.

09-13-2022, 12:39 PM	#2
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: What fueled New Orleans Saints' Michael Thomas after 20-month absence Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I wouldn't want a player that is fueled by the money. But, hey, that's just me. Or is it? I would hope that money is the least driving force for the players on my team. So, you don’t believe in honoring a contract. Not surprising.

09-13-2022, 12:45 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: What fueled New Orleans Saints' Michael Thomas after 20-month absence Originally Posted by Boston Saint So, you don’t believe in honoring a contract. Not surprising. Now where the hell did I say that? I want every player on my team to be fueled by the desire to win. I want them to be driven by the desire to be great. I want them to want to be a great teammate. I don't want them to be in it for the money. Apparently you disagree. You think the money should be their most important motivation? More so than all the other more noble motivations? Okay.

09-13-2022, 01:14 PM	#4
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: What fueled New Orleans Saints' Michael Thomas after 20-month absence Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Now where the hell did I say that? I want every player on my team to be fueled by the desire to win. I want them to be driven by the desire to be great. I want them to want to be a great teammate. I don't want them to be in it for the money. Apparently you disagree. You think the money should be their most important motivation? More so than all the other more noble motivations? Okay. No, it’s called work ethic. You agree to do a job you are paid to do then you do it. None of these players play for free. They don’t play if they are not under contract. They hold out if they feel underpaid. But he is hardly underpaid. I NEVER said it was the most important factor. It’s a matter of integrity in doing your best.

09-13-2022, 03:54 PM	#5
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,818	Re: What fueled New Orleans Saints' Michael Thomas after 20-month absence Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Now where the hell did I say that? I want every player on my team to be fueled by the desire to win. I want them to be driven by the desire to be great. I want them to want to be a great teammate. I don't want them to be in it for the money. Apparently you disagree. You think the money should be their most important motivation? More so than all the other more noble motivations? Okay.
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09-13-2022, 01:02 PM	#6
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: What fueled New Orleans Saints' Michael Thomas after 20-month absence Originally Posted by Boston Saint So, you don’t believe in honoring a contract. Not surprising. Honoring contracts in the NFL is bunk. NFL teams sign contracts all the time that they have no intention of honoring. Teams will cut players in a hot minute as long as its expedient and doesn't damage their salary cap. As such, I have no problem with NFL players demanding more guarantees, and bogarting their way into better situations when teams balk. It's a business and a livelihood for players, not just a slavish devotion to a team like we fans have. And exactly where did MT13 not honor his contract. The player was injured and the recommended course of action for recovery didn't work as expected. That's not breaking a contract. While I understand fans want to see their favorite players, the fact that they are unavailable doesn't make those players horrible people and contract breakers. SFIAH leilung, AsylumGuido, FinSaint and 3 others like this.
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09-13-2022, 01:20 PM	#7
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: What fueled New Orleans Saints' Michael Thomas after 20-month absence Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Honoring contracts in the NFL is bunk. NFL teams sign contracts all the time that they have no intention of honoring. Teams will cut players in a hot minute as long as its expedient and doesn't damage their salary cap. As such, I have no problem with NFL players demanding more guarantees, and bogarting their way into better situations when teams balk. It's a business and a livelihood for players, not just a slavish devotion to a team like we fans have. And exactly where did MT13 not honor his contract. The player was injured and the recommended course of action for recovery didn't work as expected. That's not breaking a contract. While I understand fans want to see their favorite players, the fact that they are unavailable doesn't make those players horrible people and contract breakers. SFIAH That’s why I said That’s just me. I fully well realize that I don’t work and live in the NFL world. I also fully realize that many of these players are prima donnas. I also fully realize that the billionaire owners are only looking out for themselves and trying to scam us fans of every dollar. My point, that was apparently too subtle for some of you to catch, was that it’s fairly ridiculous IMO to write an article about what fuels a man that is getting paid that much money to play a friggin child’s game. More important people go out and do much more important jobs than that for much less money and they do it with pride and honor and don’t need to be fueled by anything much more than the paycheck. jnormand likes this.
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09-13-2022, 05:50 PM	#8
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,099	Re: What fueled New Orleans Saints' Michael Thomas after 20-month absence Originally Posted by Boston Saint That’s why I said That’s just me. I fully well realize that I don’t work and live in the NFL world. I also fully realize that many of these players are prima donnas. I also fully realize that the billionaire owners are only looking out for themselves and trying to scam us fans of every dollar. My point, that was apparently too subtle for some of you to catch, was that it’s fairly ridiculous IMO to write an article about what fuels a man that is getting paid that much money to play a friggin child’s game. More important people go out and do much more important jobs than that for much less money and they do it with pride and honor and don’t need to be fueled by anything much more than the paycheck. No denying we place more value in being entertained than most anything else. Sad really... jnormand, SmashMouth and Boston Saint like this.