Week 2 - Bucs @ Saints

AsylumGuido · 09-14-2022, 04:49 PM

K Major · 09-13-2022, 03:37 PM

OLINE has to play better, specifically RUIZ.

He cannot continue to allow free releases through the A gap, while trying to help Ramz or simply standing around is becoming monotonous.

3 years in, if he's not improving he needs to have a seat. Tired of the excuses for his poor play.

He will eventually get our QB hurt or seriously injured.

Todd Bowles is bringing the heat on 3rd downs.

AsylumGuido · 09-13-2022, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

OLINE has to play better, specifically RUIZ.

He cannot continue to allow free releases through the A gap, while trying to help Ramz or simply standing around is becoming monotonous.

3 years in, if he's not improving he needs to have a seat. Tired of the excuses for his poor play.

He will eventually get our QB hurt or seriously injured.

Todd Bowles is bringing the heat on 3rd downs.

And if no one behind Ruiz is any better? What do you do then? Serious question, K.

dizzle88 · 09-13-2022, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

OLINE has to play better, specifically RUIZ.

He cannot continue to allow free releases through the A gap, while trying to help Ramz or simply standing around is becoming monotonous.

3 years in, if he's not improving he needs to have a seat. Tired of the excuses for his poor play.

He will eventually get our QB hurt or seriously injured.

Todd Bowles is bringing the heat on 3rd downs.

I think Ruiz has hit his very disappointing ceiling.

As a first round pick, if you play that badly and even Jahri Evans cant raise your level, then I just don't think he's suited for a starting role.

Ruiz ended Brees's career, I hope he doesn't get Winston injured.

AsylumGuido · 09-13-2022, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I think Ruiz has hit his very disappointing ceiling.

As a first round pick, if you play that badly and even Jahri Evans cant raise your level, then I just don't think he's suited for a starting role.

Ruiz ended Brees's career, I hope he doesn't get Winston injured.

Same question, Diz. If no one behind Ruiz is any better then what do you do?

dizzle88 · 09-13-2022, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Same question, Diz. If no one behind Ruiz is any better then what do you do?

Honestly at this stage I don't think you can do anything, unless DA and the Front Office can mastermind a trade for a competent Guard.

I'd hate to see Winston suffer bad guard play like Brees did. It's hurt us for years in the playoffs and just seems to get ignored.

AsylumGuido · 09-13-2022, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Honestly at this stage I don't think you can do anything, unless DA and the Front Office can mastermind a trade for a competent Guard.

I'd hate to see Winston suffer bad guard play like Brees did. It's hurt us for years in the playoffs and just seems to get ignored.

Yup. You gotta go with what you have and hope it gets better. You can utilize the FB more. You can move the pocket. Stay in the hurry up which looked good. There are options.

Boston Saint · 09-13-2022, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I think Ruiz has hit his very disappointing ceiling.

As a first round pick, if you play that badly and even Jahri Evans cant raise your level, then I just don't think he's suited for a starting role.

Ruiz ended Brees's career, I hope he doesn't get Winston injured.

If this is true and our guards are the best we can have this year, then plays have to be designed to take that into account. No more plays like the Ingram 2 point conversion. More help from the RB and TEs in pass protection. More plays that can get outside the tackle box. More plays that are quicker throws but with some loft that will allow the WRs to work downfield like Landry's catch. If they are bringing blitzes then some WR or TE has to be on single coverage. Winston did a great job not forcing his throws and picking his spots.

K Major · 09-14-2022, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I think Ruiz has hit his very disappointing ceiling.

As a first round pick, if you play that badly and even Jahri Evans cant raise your level, then I just don't think he's suited for a starting role.

Ruiz ended Brees's career, I hope he doesn't get Winston injured.

Like our dear friend, JP used to say a lot...

"Ruiz was a reach in the 1st round".

He wasn't wrong either. I see no signs of him ever living up to that draft status. He was a human turnstile vs Atlanta. I've never treated PFF grades as gospel, but in his case (46.5) that was accurate.

Better get it together. Todd Bowles is bringing the kitchen sink on 3rd down.

AsylumGuido · 09-14-2022, 10:58 AM

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Week 2 - Bucs @ Saints OLINE has to play better, specifically RUIZ. He cannot continue to allow free releases through the A gap, while trying to help Ramz or simply standing around is becoming monotonous. 3 years in, if he's not improving he needs to have a seat. Tired of the excuses for his poor play. He will eventually get our QB hurt or seriously injured. Todd Bowles is bringing the heat on 3rd downs. turbo_dog and Lord_Saint83 like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Week 2 - Bucs @ Saints Originally Posted by K Major OLINE has to play better, specifically RUIZ. He cannot continue to allow free releases through the A gap, while trying to help Ramz or simply standing around is becoming monotonous. 3 years in, if he's not improving he needs to have a seat. Tired of the excuses for his poor play. He will eventually get our QB hurt or seriously injured. Todd Bowles is bringing the heat on 3rd downs. And if no one behind Ruiz is any better? What do you do then? Serious question, K.

09-13-2022, 03:42 PM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Week 2 - Bucs @ Saints Originally Posted by K Major OLINE has to play better, specifically RUIZ. He cannot continue to allow free releases through the A gap, while trying to help Ramz or simply standing around is becoming monotonous. 3 years in, if he's not improving he needs to have a seat. Tired of the excuses for his poor play. He will eventually get our QB hurt or seriously injured. Todd Bowles is bringing the heat on 3rd downs. I think Ruiz has hit his very disappointing ceiling. As a first round pick, if you play that badly and even Jahri Evans cant raise your level, then I just don't think he's suited for a starting role. Ruiz ended Brees's career, I hope he doesn't get Winston injured. SmashMouth likes this.

09-13-2022, 03:45 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Week 2 - Bucs @ Saints Originally Posted by dizzle88 I think Ruiz has hit his very disappointing ceiling. As a first round pick, if you play that badly and even Jahri Evans cant raise your level, then I just don't think he's suited for a starting role. Ruiz ended Brees's career, I hope he doesn't get Winston injured. Same question, Diz. If no one behind Ruiz is any better then what do you do?

09-13-2022, 03:50 PM	#6
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Week 2 - Bucs @ Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Same question, Diz. If no one behind Ruiz is any better then what do you do? Honestly at this stage I don't think you can do anything, unless DA and the Front Office can mastermind a trade for a competent Guard. I'd hate to see Winston suffer bad guard play like Brees did. It's hurt us for years in the playoffs and just seems to get ignored. leilung and AsylumGuido like this.

09-13-2022, 03:55 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Week 2 - Bucs @ Saints Originally Posted by dizzle88 Honestly at this stage I don't think you can do anything, unless DA and the Front Office can mastermind a trade for a competent Guard. I'd hate to see Winston suffer bad guard play like Brees did. It's hurt us for years in the playoffs and just seems to get ignored. Yup. You gotta go with what you have and hope it gets better. You can utilize the FB more. You can move the pocket. Stay in the hurry up which looked good. There are options.

09-13-2022, 04:22 PM	#8
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Week 2 - Bucs @ Saints Originally Posted by dizzle88 I think Ruiz has hit his very disappointing ceiling. As a first round pick, if you play that badly and even Jahri Evans cant raise your level, then I just don't think he's suited for a starting role. Ruiz ended Brees's career, I hope he doesn't get Winston injured. If this is true and our guards are the best we can have this year, then plays have to be designed to take that into account. No more plays like the Ingram 2 point conversion. More help from the RB and TEs in pass protection. More plays that can get outside the tackle box. More plays that are quicker throws but with some loft that will allow the WRs to work downfield like Landry's catch. If they are bringing blitzes then some WR or TE has to be on single coverage. Winston did a great job not forcing his throws and picking his spots.
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09-14-2022, 10:30 AM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Week 2 - Bucs @ Saints Originally Posted by dizzle88 I think Ruiz has hit his very disappointing ceiling. As a first round pick, if you play that badly and even Jahri Evans cant raise your level, then I just don't think he's suited for a starting role. Ruiz ended Brees's career, I hope he doesn't get Winston injured. Like our dear friend, JP used to say a lot... "Ruiz was a reach in the 1st round". He wasn't wrong either. I see no signs of him ever living up to that draft status. He was a human turnstile vs Atlanta. I've never treated PFF grades as gospel, but in his case (46.5) that was accurate. Better get it together. Todd Bowles is bringing the kitchen sink on 3rd down.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Week 2 - Bucs @ Saints Prisco's NFL Week 2 picks: Saints knock off Tom Brady again, Chiefs outlast Chargers in AFC West shootout