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5.1 yards a pop ... against a good defense.

Keep pounding with the run game.

Tampa had little success running with LF, but they never gave up on it.

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I agree that we should have ran the ball more and take what the defense was giving us. They were also giving us those short and intermediate routes all game as well. The game plan wasn't bad at all. We took deep shots that opened up running lanes and routes underneath. We failed to take advantage of it. We lost. He calls the plays so blame lies there as well. But the main reason we didn't have success Sunday was due to execution.

I think a lot of people keep trying to make excuses for Jameis. He is what he is. He has been his whole career. He's going to look like an All Pro one week and a pile of dung the next. Do people really believe our OC told our quarterback to develop tunnel vision and keep forcing the ball downfield? Even the suggestion of that is crazy to me.

If we have to rely on Jameis arm to be successful this year, it's going to be a very frustrating season to watch. Lots of highs and lots of lows. He needs to be smarter.

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Agree mostly papz. To his credit in post game Winston admitted he needs to be better. The run game was great!....until the fumble and then we struggled.

The Jekyll/Hyde nature you describe of Winston may be par for the course for NFL QBs. Look at Cousins last week vs this week. Look at Murray. Burroughs is still finding his way. Hell, Brady had a mediocre week. Just food for thought.

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I’am pulling for him too. But the team comes first. I rather him shut it down for a few weeks and come back mid season, instead of trying to play the whole season hurt. Like Mayfield did

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There’s something to be said for this…especially if your starting QB isn’t clearly better than your backup. If Winston is hurt, I’d bring out the Red Rifle.

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Cousins has always been a mixed bag. Until he plays us for some damn reason but I still say not playing starters in the preseason will have this chemistry and timing issue. KC started their starters and they look in sync.

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Respectfully Papz, what if pressure caused him to miss these reads not being able to get to them?
That deep shot takes the longest to reveal itself I guess correct but what if that was all that's left..
You throw it away correct


"Jameis if you think you see the deep shot no risk it no biscuit that mutha"..
Maybe that's a place in the game you gamble and pretty much call that throw a punt if nothing was there?
I think there's a chance of that but I've been called crazy before.

It's puzzling and I'll just need a couple more weeks to choose how I want to view it.
I'm not trying to make excuses for him at all man.

It's going to be what it's gunna be in the end, and naturally of course I'm trying to see the what-ifs in it all being that, I don't think it's as cut and dry as some may think either.

Too many moving parts

I'm pulling for Jameis 100% but I think a couple more weeks of bad game film evaluated by the ones knowing exactly what was called settles it.
If Jameis' is not executing and truly missing he gets the hook going into week 5.
I'm good with that

The dudes injured man that cannot help his cause/performance.

Maybe I'm wrong, but this will not be the first nor the last time. I do know that to be Fact lol

Let's go kick the panthers ass

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Fair enough but here’s a question for you. What if they put Dalton in there and he plays bad too then what? His stats the last few years aren’t the greatest. Game manager at best. Last three years 38 tds to 31 ints. I like Andy and if they start him, imma root for him but if we’re expecting him to be Drew or close to him. I think we’re lying to ourselves

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Winston gives us the best chance to win. Plain and simple. I'm not ready to write him off after this one game. It's evident he's still developing chemistry with the WRs. Thomas and Olave are about to go off.

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Except you CAN'T fumble!