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Well, then you put Winston back in after some rest to heal. I think Winston should be in if he is healthy.....I'm not sure his is.

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I don't think any one of us wants to see Jameis fail. He does give us our best chance at making the playoffs. We just can't be reliant on his arm in doing so. Bad things happen when Jameis throws the ball a lot. It didn't work in Tampa and it won't here. That's something I hope Allen and Carmichael realize sooner than later. Nothing wrong with managing a game, running the football, and playing defense.

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About the only positive I can take from this game is the major improvement along the offensive line against one of the leagues best defenses. Winston and Olave should be working overtime this week to get their timing down. Some of those balls were so off target I have a hard time putting the blame on Olave.
I’ve been a Winston supporter and admire the hell out of his toughness, leadership, and attitude but I hope DA doesn’t wait until it’s too late to make a switch if it comes to that. I think Dalton could have a good year with us .

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LB Pete Werner: 88.4

Another outstanding game ^^ & is good in coverage.

Not a lot of talking, just does his job well.

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That dude is Old School Legit and to watch his demeanor makes me have hope that real football is not dead!

We need 3 more of him

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I don’t think he is either, Bos. You can tell his deep ball accuracy which is his biggest strength was very off. A lot of sailed passes too. It’s a miracle he can even walk. I had a L3 bulged disk pushing on a nerve and sometimes it would take me two minutes to walk across the hall to the bathroom. Put Andy in until he’s good to go.

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I was sooo wrong about Pete. I’m glad to eat crow on that. Looks like I’ll have to eat some crow for Alontae too

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Disc issues are WAY worse that vertebral fractures. You can have the only nerves affected in a fracture being the ones around the bone itself. Non-spinal. Someone here pointed out mobility possibly being an issue. The team said they strapped padding over the fractured area. That would have be around the hips. I would imagine that could hinder the rotation of the hips in the throwing motion. I mentioned possibly modifying the padding with more time to be less restrictive, yet still provide some protection.

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Okay, got the scoop on the Winston injury. According to Dr. David Chou what Jameis is dealing with are fractures to the Transverse process, which is "a small bony projection off the right and left side of each vertebrae". Dr. Chou said there is no chance of further injury and dealing with the local pain is the only issue. Local pain-killers can alleviate that.

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This is the same type of injury that Tony Romo played with a few years ago and other players have, as well. In other words, we really can't blame the injury itself on Winston's performance. The padding, maybe, but not the actual injury.

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The bottom line is Winston needs to play better. He's performed poorly for two straight weeks. Lack of pocket awareness, holding the ball too long whatever, do better.

Now if he's injured and needs to get healthy, have a seat. Dalton is more than capable vs Carolina.

We all just want to win.