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Absolute fact, Oak. There's nothing any of us can do to make a difference. At least as far as team success is concerned. I just choose to make the best of it and share as much information that I can with others that do not have the time or resources to search for it themselves.

On to the Vikings and hopefully a 17 game win streak!

:bng:

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You're doing it again Guido.....

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Doing what? Being too hopeful?

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Just for consistency with other QBs performing similarly:

Should the Colts rest Matt Ryan in favor of Nick Foles?

Should the Broncos rest Russell Wilson in favor of Brett Rypien? I mean at this point, let Brett cook!

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You debate yourself into a corner and when someone calls you out your response is something like

"oh, i choose to not to let things bother me..."
"i can't control so it doesn't matter..."
"the people 'in the know' are the real experts..."

It's frustrating and quite frankly juvenile.

If you just once in a while admitted others here may have a better perspective than you on an issue, you'd piss a lot less people off. Or even better - NOT chase them away from the message board altogether.

Then again, you may not choose to let that bother you.

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Well, it seems that as of this morning there may be a new Sheriff in Town! Stay tuned for that injury report!

https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2022...ton-nfl-stats/

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I for one, never bought in to that narrative "4 back fractures, can't get any worse by playing through it" bull jive. Especially when 290+ lineman are running at you on EVERY DOWN with the intent to take away your soul.

Jameis needs to sit & get himself healthy long term.

The man is banged up.

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Update added to the above article ...

"Update: Dennis Allen said after practice that Jameis Winston will return to practice on Thursday, and that he expects Winston to start Week 4’s game with the Vikings."

Not saying that's right or wrong, just sharing what the updated article shared.

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It sounds to me that they have more concern with Dalton as the backup than Winston at less than 100% as the starter. Perhaps they were hoping for the Bengals Dalton when they signed him and are now discovering they have the Bears version instead. :(

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Could they have found a goofier picture?

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So apparently Winston is coming back to practice tomorrow, yet Taysom is getting more reps at QB. From the outside looking in seems like we are getting mixed signals.

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Taysom's snaps may have simply been the need for the additional QB in practice drills on the Winston rest day. Who knows? Someone needs to run with the two's.

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Yep & it starts with Dennis Allen.

I take what these coaches say with a grain of salt ... same with the media.

Guess we'll see what happens on Sunday but 99.9% of know this, Jameis Winston needs to play better. So far, he's been terrible.

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Winston tied for most interceptions. If he is healthy enough to play he’s making awful decisions. If he isn’t healthy enough then why is he playing? His bad throws have caused injuries to a couple receivers.

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Really? Injuries to WR's caused by Winston? Which WR's and on which plays? I missed that. :confused:

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Just sharing what is being shared. It doesn't mean I agree or disagree. Just hoping for the best.

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I said it last year and I’ll say it again, JW sucks. Hey sucked in Tampa and he sucks here. I’d rather throw in the towel on the season than keep him as a starter. No way TH or Andy Dalton could be any worse at this point

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Injuries have zero to do with decision making.

Surely if his throws were being affected, he'd check down to Kamara more, which he doesn't.

Winston's decision making has always sucked. TheOak posted his collegiate weaknesses the other day, it literally summed up everything we are seeing.

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This is something I never want to see my Saints do.

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(JUST RANTING)

I am tired of Winston holding the ball longer than expected for the big play or overlooking a wide open Kamara & Thomas just for a deeper route. Thomas & Kamara are known for their YAC (Winston not giving them opportunities). If you check down or get the ball out quicker the OL will develop better. The WRs play will be better. Check down and the Big Play will come (STOP TRYING TO FORCE IT DOWN FIELD). I am really missing Payton right now cause that risk it or no biscuit mindset will not be in Winston mindset.

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I would rest him permanently. I knew when the Saints picked him up it would be a disaster. Life after Brees was going to suck. I was very disappointed when the Saints picked him up instead of going all out to draft someone. I always looked forward to the saints playing against him. It's his MO and the only reason they won any games was because of the defense and run game

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He needs to sit. If MaCoy and Peat are out or hurt then it’s only going to get worse for Winston from an injury standpoint. Could risk losing him for the season. Not that I care because the dude sucks. Another interception at the dome and fans are going to turn on him.

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Go watch the injury to Landry. He had to leave the game because of injury caused by the bad throw behind him. It was CRINGEWORTHY.

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Do you have a link to the play? No doubt you have seen it multiple times to deem it cringeworthy.

While you are at it, do you have the video of the play where Winston injured the other WR?

Thanks!

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https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxhaxUuUm...dOuKgp6AWqN-v1

Here's a link to the Landry play.

Guy is tough as nails and it did look nasty when he went down. Happy he is in black and gold.

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Thanks! Not seeing where the throw caused the injury however. Do you, Geaux? Looks like he threw it low and away from the defender where only the receiver could get to it. Brees was great at that.

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3:34, this is pure Jameis.

Defender comes through on the blitz, so he leans right and throws left back across the field, defender drops a pick 6.

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The defense has obviously not had any help from the offense, but man they were still sloppy watching those game highlights.

PJ Williams badly missing a tackle and then Mathieu makes a huge business decision to not try and tackle Shenault. Not impressed by Tyrann at all.

Not to mention the D line, with all that talent they have, has been invisible for 3 weeks.

Demario missed an easy pick and a few tackles.

The only person that impressed me was Werner.

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What is 3:34? According to play by play Carolina's offense had the ball at the 3:34 point of all four quarters. Or do you mean something else?

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I meant 3:34 in the posted YouTube highlights a few comments above

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From that angle, no I can't say the throw cause the injury. I mean the corner was on his outside shoulder, so if he lead him, Landry could of gotten his head torn off. Then again from a endzone view maybe Winston had plenty of time the throw earlier in the route idk.

I think the main subject of this conversation is, if Winston should rest and I think he does. Poor decision making and health are causing a lot of problem for this O. Now, it's unfair to blame everything on Winston. The o-line play has not been the greatest, neither has the play calling. I'm sure everyone here is saying run on 1st, run on 2nd, pass on 3rd. You can't beat nfl teams like that, but o-line play also goes hand in hand on quick decision making by the QB. Our O is big on that and that's why TB had success when Brees went down. Winston has not shown that in his entire career. Neither have any of the Qb's listed on our roster.

This bring me to this. This whole situation we are in, is a complete mismanagement by the whole organization. As much as I love Brees and I still wear jersey every game day, he was done the last two years of his career. Qb should of been top priority. After missing on Mahomes, we complete whiffed on getting Lamar Jackson and he was right there. We never looked at QB until Book who will forever be a back up.

DA never wanted Winston as his QB, but was forced to bring him back because he is familiar with the O and wanted a smooth transaction. Well that's not working so something has to change and I think that starts with sitting Winston so he can heal and see what happens with Dalton.

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Just finished watching those highlights and wow, Jameis got lucky that Callaway made such a great catch for the touchdown. Because he threw the ball into triple coverage, in the redzone.

I've seen all I need to see out of him, Dalton or Taysom time I hope

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Okay. Had me confused there.

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Can't disagree with most of that.

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You may get your wish this weekend. I hope the hell you are right.

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Watching Tua getting carted off tonight, I hope the Saints are paying close attention on playing a injured (JW) guy. You don’t want to mess around with neck & head injuries.

Extremely dangerous.

Prayers for Tua 🙏.

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If QBs are getting injured like this, there are rules in place to protect QBs already. What is different that refs aren't calling to protect QBs?

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Not sure if you saw the highlights from Tua last week, but Miami had no business having him play TONIGHT. Just four days ago he suffered a concussion (although they claimed he was just dazed) :rolleyes:.

IMO the Dolphins lied about his current condition. That's a shame.

A 4 day turnaround time from head trauma/concussion? C'mon Miami, what are you doing?

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NFL is just as liable as the Dolphins. Should have gotten rid of Thursday Night Football while they were getting rid of the Pro Bowl!!!

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I want to play Taysom. You either get a giant spark or you are drafting in a good position.