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Boston Saint 10-20-2022 07:06 AM
Re: If we could just have our Starting core...
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 961239)
Just out of curiosity I put this question out to a few of the Saints beat writers, Boston.

"I have heard it suggested that Michael Thomas is able to play but chooses not to play. What are the possibilities of this being the case?"

Here's the first response:


Ross Jackson
@RossJacksonNOLA
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@AsylumGuido
That's not the case.
2:14 PM · Oct 19, 2022
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Second response:

@AsylumGuido
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@RosvoglouReport

I have heard it suggested that Michael Thomas is able to play but chooses not to play. What are the possibilities of this being the case? I myself can't see this being the case.

Chris Rosvoglou
@RosvoglouReport
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@AsylumGuido
I highly doubt that
2:27 PM · Oct 19, 2022
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Great. That means you are BOTH wrong.

AsylumGuido 10-20-2022 08:20 AM
Re: If we could just have our Starting core...
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 961259)
Great. That means you are BOTH wrong.
You mean all THREE of us.

LOL! Just for ****z and giggles, give me the logical reasoning behind Thomas refusing to play. Of course, ignore the fact that his prognosis given by the team at the time of injury was four weeks for a grade 2 turf toe.

This oughta be good.

:D :popcorn:

Boston Saint 10-20-2022 08:56 AM
Re: If we could just have our Starting core...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 961263)
You mean all THREE of us.

LOL! Just for ****z and giggles, give me the logical reasoning behind Thomas refusing to play. Of course, ignore the fact that his prognosis given by the team at the time of injury was four weeks for a grade 2 turf toe.

This oughta be good.

:D :popcorn:
I said “ I do not believe the Saints staff is telling Thomas to sit while Thomas is saying, “No, I can play!”.”

What reason would there be for that?

AsylumGuido 10-20-2022 09:43 AM
Re: If we could just have our Starting core...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 961270)
I said “ I do not believe the Saints staff is telling Thomas to sit while Thomas is saying, “No, I can play!”.”

What reason would there be for that?
I do not believe the Saints staff is telling him to sit, either. I believe what was told to the beat writers the week of the injury stating he had a turf toe injury that would require approximately four weeks of recovery with an outside chance of less. I also believe that as soon as the medical staff gives him clearance he'll immediately return to practice to prepare to return to play.

Do you honestly believe he would refuse to play if given the clearance? If so, what would be his logical reasoning?

That's what I what to hear from you. I cannot for the life of me come up with any reason why any athlete would refuse to play if able. It surely isn't the money because not playing has to be negatively affecting any performance incentives he most likely has in place.

Don't forget the possible recovery from the previous injury was complicated by Thomas' insistence upon playing through that injury for Drew. If he had sat things all might have been dramatically different.

No doubt the medical staff would be far more conservative this time around. Thomas is arguably the most dangerous weapon on our roster and gives us the best chance of winning moving forward.

Boston Saint 10-20-2022 09:56 AM
Re: If we could just have our Starting core...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 961272)
I do not believe the Saints staff is telling him to sit, either. I believe what was told to the beat writers the week of the injury stating he had a turf toe injury that would require approximately four weeks of recovery with an outside chance of less. I also believe that as soon as the medical staff gives him clearance he'll immediately return to practice to prepare to return to play.

Do you honestly believe he would refuse to play if given the clearance? If so, what would be his logical reasoning?

That's what I what to hear from you. I cannot for the life of me come up with any reason why any athlete would refuse to play if able. It surely isn't the money because not playing has to be negatively affecting any performance incentives he most likely has in place.

Don't forget the possible recovery from the previous injury was complicated by Thomas' insistence upon playing through that injury for Drew. If he had sat things all might have been dramatically different.

No doubt the medical staff would be far more conservative this time around. Thomas is arguably the most dangerous weapon on our roster and gives us the best chance of winning moving forward.
Zzzzz you are the opposite side of bako with your rambling argumentative nonsense! Did you wake up saying you are going to come after Boston today?

My statement is quite clear. I’ll repeat..

I do not believe the Saints staff is telling Thomas to sit while Thomas is saying, “No, I can play!”.

If you don’t have the mental capacity to understand the statement that’s on you. Feel free to kiss my a$$ now.

AsylumGuido 10-20-2022 10:06 AM
Re: If we could just have our Starting core...
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 961273)
Zzzzz you are the opposite side of bako with your rambling argumentative nonsense! Did you wake up saying you are going to come after Boston today?

My statement is quite clear. I’ll repeat..

I do not believe the Saints staff is telling Thomas to sit while Thomas is saying, “No, I can play!”.

If you don’t have the mental capacity to understand the statement that’s on you. Feel free to kiss my a$$ now.
This part I can agree with 100%. I believe Thomas is following the orders of the medical staff to a "T" this time around doing exactly what they prescribe. As he should for the betterment of the team.

:bng:

And I'll decline the invitation to kiss your a$$. Kind of an odd request.

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Boston Saint 10-20-2022 10:13 AM
Re: If we could just have our Starting core...
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 961275)
This part I can agree with 100%. I believe Thomas is following the orders of the medical staff to a "T" this time around doing exactly what they prescribe. As he should for the betterment of the team.

:bng:

And I'll decline the invitation to kiss your a$$. Kind of an odd request.

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Yeah, i never used the words refuse or refused to play either jerkoff. I don’t give a crap what you agree with.

Boston Saint 10-20-2022 11:58 AM
Re: If we could just have our Starting core...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 961272)
I do not believe the Saints staff is telling him to sit, either. I believe what was told to the beat writers the week of the injury stating he had a turf toe injury that would require approximately four weeks of recovery with an outside chance of less. I also believe that as soon as the medical staff gives him clearance he'll immediately return to practice to prepare to return to play.

Do you honestly believe he would refuse to play if given the clearance? If so, what would be his logical reasoning?

That's what I what to hear from you. I cannot for the life of me come up with any reason why any athlete would refuse to play if able. It surely isn't the money because not playing has to be negatively affecting any performance incentives he most likely has in place.

Don't forget the possible recovery from the previous injury was complicated by Thomas' insistence upon playing through that injury for Drew. If he had sat things all might have been dramatically different.

No doubt the medical staff would be far more conservative this time around. Thomas is arguably the most dangerous weapon on our roster and gives us the best chance of winning moving forward.
Reading this post again, I’m gonna respond…since it’s what you wanted to hear from me..

You are a dishonest Guido (putting it mildly).

Going back to post 43 of this thread in a discussion about what is driving the recent trends regarding the multi facets of injuries and how they are being handled throughout the league I said:

“In other words there isn’t someone on the Saints telling Thomas he can’t play. It’s Thomas saying he’s not ready.

Maybe I’m wrong.”

You respond with a post that starts..

“Totally disagree.”


Ok, fair enough. I admitted I could be wrong (mainly because the topic was about an opinion that can’t be proven). So you go on to stake an “argument” that emotionally goes into the specifics of his injury. It was NOT the point I was making, nor was it the topic of discussion. You take two clear statements I make :

“ I do not believe the Saints staff is telling Thomas to sit while Thomas is saying, “No, I can play!”.”

AND

“In other words there isn’t someone on the Saints telling Thomas he can’t play. It’s Thomas saying he’s not ready.”

And you twist those statements to accuse me of saying Thomas “refuses” to play (along with a little emoji that is meant to be cute I guess). Then say you contacted some hacks to back up your point.

That is clear manipulation and your usual MO.

AsylumGuido 10-20-2022 12:01 PM
Re: If we could just have our Starting core...
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 961278)
Yeah, i never used the words refuse or refused to play either jerkoff. I don’t give a crap what you agree with.
Okie dokie.

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AsylumGuido 10-20-2022 12:03 PM
Re: If we could just have our Starting core...
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 961284)
Reading this post again, I’m gonna respond…since it’s what you wanted to hear from me..

You are a dishonest Guido (putting it mildly).

Going back to post 43 of this thread in a discussion about what is driving the recent trends regarding the multi facets of injuries and how they are being handled throughout the league I said:

“In other words there isn’t someone on the Saints telling Thomas he can’t play. It’s Thomas saying he’s not ready.

Maybe I’m wrong.”

You respond with a post that starts..

“Totally disagree.”


Ok, fair enough. I admitted I could be wrong (mainly because the topic was about an opinion that can’t be proven). So you go on to stake an “argument” that emotionally goes into the specifics of his injury. It was NOT the point I was making, nor was it the topic of discussion. You take two clear statements I make :

“ I do not believe the Saints staff is telling Thomas to sit while Thomas is saying, “No, I can play!”.”

AND

“In other words there isn’t someone on the Saints telling Thomas he can’t play. It’s Thomas saying he’s not ready.”

And you twist those statements to accuse me of saying Thomas “refuses” to play (along with a little emoji that is meant to be cute I guess). Then say you contacted some hacks to back up your point.

That is clear manipulation and your usual MO.
Got it. :D


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